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Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread
Aug 17, 2021 at 6:58 PM
- tohara3
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Excited to Lance in game 2 this weekend
Aug 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM
- Tman
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Originally posted by tohara3:
Excited to Lance in game 2 this weekend
Same! Hope to see some improved pocket presence and less drops…..keep Rick James on the couch
Aug 17, 2021 at 7:15 PM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by Tman:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Excited to Lance in game 2 this weekend
Same! Hope to see some improved pocket presence and less drops…..keep Rick James on the couch
Same here - hope to see better play from him. Get the bad taste out of his mouth.
Aug 17, 2021 at 7:18 PM
- Goatie
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Tman:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Excited to Lance in game 2 this weekend
Same! Hope to see some improved pocket presence and less drops…..keep Rick James on the couch
Same here - hope to see better play from him. Get the bad taste out of his mouth.
He was still having accuracy issues in the last practice throwing 9/15. He will improve but it won't be as fast as some are thinking on here. He will not be ready to be a starter by game one or for a while yet. Much more polishing from the coaches to come before that.
Aug 17, 2021 at 7:21 PM
- Lobo49er
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:has a rookie won a SB ?
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Warned you guys that all this excitement will create expectations....now most of you are being humbled
Don't worry..
This necessary?
My expectation hasnt changed. As soon as Kyle feels he is a starting caliber QB, he will start. And my opinion is that happens sometime in 2021.
I feel the same way but not if he plays the way he did this past Saturday. I wonder if Kyle is weighing the possibility on whether or not he can scheme wins with Lance for enough games to allow Lance to get comfortable and start controlling the offense.
But having said that, no rookie QB has ever won the SB. The ceiling of this team with Jimmy is SuperBowl win. History shows that is NOT the ceiling with a rookie QB.
I was with you until the bolded. Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't.
The rookie QB never winning a Super Bowl so Lance can't perform better than Jimmy is the dumbest common take on this forum ATM.
Only this year, with this team, the ceiling for the success of this team is higher with Jimmy than it is with Lance. NOW, since the ceiling is the Super Bowl and not 6 wins, then the starter is a no brainer. NEXT year, the ceiling for the success of this team may be higher with Lance.
Even with your "only for this year" qualifier, it doesnt make what you are saying true. The idea that a rookie QB cant win a Superbowl is ridiculous. If we took this team and our rookie QB played at 2020 Justin Herbert level, can that team not win a Superbowl?
This is such a dumb take. Do better.
Challenge accepted.
No team who plays in Santa Clara has ever won a Super Bowl.
No QB named Trey has ever led a team to win the Super Bowl.
No HC named Kyle has ever won a Super Bowl.
how am I doing?
Aug 17, 2021 at 7:49 PM
- Redandgoldsf
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Tman:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Excited to Lance in game 2 this weekend
Same! Hope to see some improved pocket presence and less drops…..keep Rick James on the couch
Same here - hope to see better play from him. Get the bad taste out of his mouth.
He was still having accuracy issues in the last practice throwing 9/15. He will improve but it won't be as fast as some are thinking on here. He will not be ready to be a starter by game one or for a while yet. Much more polishing from the coaches to come before that.
Accuracy issues is an interesting thing that keeps coming up, considering Trey looked really accurate in preseason game one IMO At least when he wasn't getting folded
Aug 17, 2021 at 7:55 PM
- Young2Owens
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Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Tman:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Excited to Lance in game 2 this weekend
Same! Hope to see some improved pocket presence and less drops…..keep Rick James on the couch
Same here - hope to see better play from him. Get the bad taste out of his mouth.
He was still having accuracy issues in the last practice throwing 9/15. He will improve but it won't be as fast as some are thinking on here. He will not be ready to be a starter by game one or for a while yet. Much more polishing from the coaches to come before that.
Accuracy issues is an interesting thing that keeps coming up, considering Trey looked really accurate in preseason game one IMO At least when he wasn't getting folded
The inaccuracy came from being pressured, preventing him from properly setting his feet. When he had space and time he was super accurate.
Aug 17, 2021 at 8:32 PM
- Polkadots
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Challenge accepted.
No team who plays in Santa Clara has ever won a Super Bowl.
No QB named Trey has ever led a team to win the Super Bowl.
No HC named Kyle has ever won a Super Bowl.
how am I doing?
49ers are f**ked then. No matter who is playing QB
Aug 17, 2021 at 8:35 PM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Tman:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Excited to Lance in game 2 this weekend
Same! Hope to see some improved pocket presence and less drops…..keep Rick James on the couch
Same here - hope to see better play from him. Get the bad taste out of his mouth.
He was still having accuracy issues in the last practice throwing 9/15. He will improve but it won't be as fast as some are thinking on here. He will not be ready to be a starter by game one or for a while yet. Much more polishing from the coaches to come before that.
Accuracy issues is an interesting thing that keeps coming up, considering Trey looked really accurate in preseason game one IMO At least when he wasn't getting folded
The inaccuracy came from being pressured, preventing him from properly setting his feet. When he had space and time he was super accurate.
Yeah, accuracy wasn't a knock on him on his scouting report. I think it has everything to do with him not setting his feet.
Aug 17, 2021 at 8:39 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Lol let's make a bet this year. You got a rookie winning a SB right?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:has a rookie won a SB ?
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Warned you guys that all this excitement will create expectations....now most of you are being humbled
Don't worry..
This necessary?
My expectation hasnt changed. As soon as Kyle feels he is a starting caliber QB, he will start. And my opinion is that happens sometime in 2021.
I feel the same way but not if he plays the way he did this past Saturday. I wonder if Kyle is weighing the possibility on whether or not he can scheme wins with Lance for enough games to allow Lance to get comfortable and start controlling the offense.
But having said that, no rookie QB has ever won the SB. The ceiling of this team with Jimmy is SuperBowl win. History shows that is NOT the ceiling with a rookie QB.
I was with you until the bolded. Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't.
The rookie QB never winning a Super Bowl so Lance can't perform better than Jimmy is the dumbest common take on this forum ATM.
Only this year, with this team, the ceiling for the success of this team is higher with Jimmy than it is with Lance. NOW, since the ceiling is the Super Bowl and not 6 wins, then the starter is a no brainer. NEXT year, the ceiling for the success of this team may be higher with Lance.
Even with your "only for this year" qualifier, it doesnt make what you are saying true. The idea that a rookie QB cant win a Superbowl is ridiculous. If we took this team and our rookie QB played at 2020 Justin Herbert level, can that team not win a Superbowl?
This is such a dumb take. Do better.
the rookie would need to start the majority of the regular season games
Shockingly, you continue to miss the point.
Aug 17, 2021 at 8:41 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yes, we are. Or at least most of us are.
Simms knows more about NFL QBing than most of us. You're allowed to keep your rose colored homer glasses on in you like but I'd rather know the truth.
im not down on Trey. I just want the guy to fine tune his skills before being thrown to the wolves. I guess people like you don't care about that.
No one said he didn't have room to improve. So you can save that. He has plenty of things to work on. But only being able to throw lasers without touch is absolutely not one of them.
Simms "analysis" reeks of someone who clearly didn't watch the game and/or hasn't watched any training camp highlights.
Aug 17, 2021 at 8:44 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:has a rookie won a SB ?
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Warned you guys that all this excitement will create expectations....now most of you are being humbled
Don't worry..
This necessary?
My expectation hasnt changed. As soon as Kyle feels he is a starting caliber QB, he will start. And my opinion is that happens sometime in 2021.
I feel the same way but not if he plays the way he did this past Saturday. I wonder if Kyle is weighing the possibility on whether or not he can scheme wins with Lance for enough games to allow Lance to get comfortable and start controlling the offense.
But having said that, no rookie QB has ever won the SB. The ceiling of this team with Jimmy is SuperBowl win. History shows that is NOT the ceiling with a rookie QB.
I was with you until the bolded. Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't.
The rookie QB never winning a Super Bowl so Lance can't perform better than Jimmy is the dumbest common take on this forum ATM.
Only this year, with this team, the ceiling for the success of this team is higher with Jimmy than it is with Lance. NOW, since the ceiling is the Super Bowl and not 6 wins, then the starter is a no brainer. NEXT year, the ceiling for the success of this team may be higher with Lance.
Even with your "only for this year" qualifier, it doesnt make what you are saying true. The idea that a rookie QB cant win a Superbowl is ridiculous. If we took this team and our rookie QB played at 2020 Justin Herbert level, can that team not win a Superbowl?
This is such a dumb take. Do better.
Challenge accepted.
No team who plays in Santa Clara has ever won a Super Bowl.
No QB named Trey has ever led a team to win the Super Bowl.
No HC named Kyle has ever won a Super Bowl.
how am I doing?
Actually you are doing quite well at doing better. You are stating facts that certain things have never happened. He is stating an opinion that something can't happen because it never has before.
You are doing much better.
Aug 17, 2021 at 8:49 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Shocking that you can't back what you claim
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Lol let's make a bet this year. You got a rookie winning a SB right?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:has a rookie won a SB ?
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Warned you guys that all this excitement will create expectations....now most of you are being humbled
Don't worry..
This necessary?
My expectation hasnt changed. As soon as Kyle feels he is a starting caliber QB, he will start. And my opinion is that happens sometime in 2021.
I feel the same way but not if he plays the way he did this past Saturday. I wonder if Kyle is weighing the possibility on whether or not he can scheme wins with Lance for enough games to allow Lance to get comfortable and start controlling the offense.
But having said that, no rookie QB has ever won the SB. The ceiling of this team with Jimmy is SuperBowl win. History shows that is NOT the ceiling with a rookie QB.
I was with you until the bolded. Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't.
The rookie QB never winning a Super Bowl so Lance can't perform better than Jimmy is the dumbest common take on this forum ATM.
Only this year, with this team, the ceiling for the success of this team is higher with Jimmy than it is with Lance. NOW, since the ceiling is the Super Bowl and not 6 wins, then the starter is a no brainer. NEXT year, the ceiling for the success of this team may be higher with Lance.
Even with your "only for this year" qualifier, it doesnt make what you are saying true. The idea that a rookie QB cant win a Superbowl is ridiculous. If we took this team and our rookie QB played at 2020 Justin Herbert level, can that team not win a Superbowl?
This is such a dumb take. Do better.
the rookie would need to start the majority of the regular season games
Shockingly, you continue to miss the point.
Aug 17, 2021 at 9:03 PM
- 49ers808
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Originally posted by Goatie:
He was still having accuracy issues in the last practice throwing 9/15. He will improve but it won't be as fast as some are thinking on here. He will not be ready to be a starter by game one or for a while yet. Much more polishing from the coaches to come before that.
So if you consider 9/15, 6 incompletions, accuracy issues then what is Jimmy's 13/19, 6 incompletions with a pick?
Aug 17, 2021 at 9:07 PM
- elguapo
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Goatie:
He was still having accuracy issues in the last practice throwing 9/15. He will improve but it won't be as fast as some are thinking on here. He will not be ready to be a starter by game one or for a while yet. Much more polishing from the coaches to come before that.
So if you consider 9/15, 6 incompletions, accuracy issues then what is Jimmy's 13/19, 6 incompletions with a pick?
Yeah I was thinking 60% isn't that bad especially if the throws aren't all short to intermediate. Also, was he pressured with our great OL protecting him Context matters