Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

no worries about Trey's finger, won't hurt him handing off or running

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
I would agree, offenses run in college today lend itself to QB starting sooner rather than in the NFL. Rodgers was also 15 years ago......yikes...time flies. Here are Murray and Hurts rooke stats....I think Lance could land somewhere in between. I would be fine that.

Murray: 64%, 3700yds, 20tds/12int. 500yds rush.
Hurts (started 4 games, so it was projected over 16): 53% 4000yds, 24yds/16int, 1000yds rush.
Both were 22 years old.

Yeah I think that's a fair comp for a rookie like Lance. Shanny isn't gonna throw the playbook at Lance and will put in a position to be successful early in his career. If Lamar Jackson can have success early (imo a worse passer than Lance coming into the league) then why can't Lance?

it's funny a lot of the people in here saying he shouldn't play this yr are some of the same people that wanted Jones & are crowning him something because he is starting. I mean I thought rookies shouldn't play yr1? Weird stuff in here.

We're not saying all rookies shouldn't start year one, we're saying our rookie, in our situation shouldn't start year 1.

There's no reason the Jags shouldn't start Lawrence.

There are several reasons to not start Lance. That's not a knock at all.
I get where you want the rookie to be sold up because you want tobsee an exciting qb and you think that will win more games.

But, Lance isn't some pro ready qb. He's got a ton of potential. Could he get it earlier if he plays more? Sure. Will it happen as fast as you think so? I doubt it. Even if he started every game this year it's going to take him til year 2, IMO to be NFL ready.

That means we throw away this season just to prepare for 2022. Our window is open now. Contrary to what you believe, we can win a SB with Jimmy G. So, I'm not willing to punt away this year for the excitement of next year.

If Jimmy plays well, and manages the game like he's supposed to, Trey should not be starting. If Jimmy throws a bunch of interceptions, Trey should be starting.

This thread is so ridiculous. I seriously just come here for the laughs now. Everyone is so hard line JG or hard line TL, when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Cmon guys....

neuro plasticity?
racial comparisons?

It's pretty ridiculous. It's not that black and white. no pun intended. or was it?

I just can't wait for the season to start so we are all rooting for the team instead of for/against certain players.

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:
This thread is so ridiculous. I seriously just come here for the laughs now. Everyone is so hard line JG or hard line TL, when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Cmon guys....

neuro plasticity?
racial comparisons?

It's pretty ridiculous. It's not that black and white. no pun intended. or was it?

I just can't wait for the season to start so we are all rooting for the team instead of for/against certain players.

That was brought up because boast believes that total number of attempts for a 29 year old means the same thing as total number of attempts for a 21 year old. They don't, because a 21 year old brain has fewer bad habits to break, and a better ability to hard wire new good habits.

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:
This thread is so ridiculous. I seriously just come here for the laughs now. Everyone is so hard line JG or hard line TL, when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Cmon guys....

neuro plasticity?
racial comparisons?

It's pretty ridiculous. It's not that black and white. no pun intended. or was it?

I just can't wait for the season to start so we are all rooting for the team instead of for/against certain players.

That's cute that you think the fighting over QBs will stop once the season starts.

It never stops; it's a Webzone staple.

However, in recent years the arguments have gotten ludicrous, like even bringing up neuroplasticity for a 29-year-old man versus the neuroplasticity of a 21-year-old man, whose differences in ability of learning is minimal. Like, lol wut

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
That was brought up because boast believes that total number of attempts for a 29 year old means the same thing as total number of attempts for a 21 year old. They don't, because a 21 year old brain has fewer bad habits to break, and a better ability to hard wire new good habits.

you brought up the information to say it's impossible for JG to improve.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The bolded statement is such an exageration. Jimmy has a career 2:1 td to int ratio with 7 game winning drives under his belt. I wonder if someone has a statistic on how many td drives he has after throwing an int? Because he typically comes back strong the next series.

Also, Jimmy's play fakes and fake passes after hand off's help out the rushing game a lot. He is extremely good at holding linebackers with his play fakes. His fake passes after handing the ball off hold the safeties which helps the rb's out when they get to the second level. These are very underated traits that Jimmy posseses but no one seems to talk about.

Not an exaggeration. Jimmy has 26 picks and 17 fumbles in 30 games. We only lost 5 fumbles but that's a dice roll. To say he's not a turnover machine is very homerish.

Now we're including almost turnovers? I guess we should include almost interceptions when logging qb stats? While we're at it, we should include almost td's and almost completions.

ahhh

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The bolded statement is such an exageration. Jimmy has a career 2:1 td to int ratio with 7 game winning drives under his belt. I wonder if someone has a statistic on how many td drives he has after throwing an int? Because he typically comes back strong the next series.

Also, Jimmy's play fakes and fake passes after hand off's help out the rushing game a lot. He is extremely good at holding linebackers with his play fakes. His fake passes after handing the ball off hold the safeties which helps the rb's out when they get to the second level. These are very underated traits that Jimmy posseses but no one seems to talk about.

Not an exaggeration. Jimmy has 26 picks and 17 fumbles in 30 games. We only lost 5 fumbles but that's a dice roll. To say he's not a turnover machine is very homerish.

Now we're including almost turnovers? I guess we should include almost interceptions when logging qb stats? While we're at it, we should include almost td's and almost completions.

Let's do that!!!!

Originally posted by 91til:
ahhh

So much this

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Jimmy did finish number 8 and number 12 in 2019 in quarterback rankings. Just saying. People seem to apply quarterback rankings around here to everyone but Jimmy. But I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Yeah man what's wrong with people not posting Jimmy's 2019 rankings in Trey Lances 2021 thread, like seriously WTF

Let's merge the two QB threads and just have "The 49ers QB thread". It will be epically chaotic.

Why are we not starting Super Bowl LIII champion Nate Sudfeld?

Because Jimmy has two rings.

Holy ****, I'm having a bad morning because I totally forgot

Another good video from Tim.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The bolded statement is such an exageration. Jimmy has a career 2:1 td to int ratio with 7 game winning drives under his belt. I wonder if someone has a statistic on how many td drives he has after throwing an int? Because he typically comes back strong the next series.

Also, Jimmy's play fakes and fake passes after hand off's help out the rushing game a lot. He is extremely good at holding linebackers with his play fakes. His fake passes after handing the ball off hold the safeties which helps the rb's out when they get to the second level. These are very underated traits that Jimmy posseses but no one seems to talk about.

Not an exaggeration. Jimmy has 26 picks and 17 fumbles in 30 games. We only lost 5 fumbles but that's a dice roll. To say he's not a turnover machine is very homerish.

Now we're including almost turnovers? I guess we should include almost interceptions when logging qb stats? While we're at it, we should include almost td's and almost completions.

That's an area where you would certainly like to see improvement but in reality, how many games has it actually cost them? Not many I would bet

Originally posted by ElDannMann:

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:
This thread is so ridiculous. I seriously just come here for the laughs now. Everyone is so hard line JG or hard line TL, when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Cmon guys....

neuro plasticity?
racial comparisons?

It's pretty ridiculous. It's not that black and white. no pun intended. or was it?

I just can't wait for the season to start so we are all rooting for the team instead of for/against certain players.

That's cute that you think the fighting over QBs will stop once the season starts.

It never stops; it's a Webzone staple.

However, in recent years the arguments have gotten ludicrous, like even bringing up neuroplasticity for a 29-year-old man versus the neuroplasticity of a 21-year-old man, whose differences in ability of learning is minimal. Like, lol wut

It never stops and is a Webzone staple because we havent had a franchise QB since Steve Young retired. People try to make it sound like we have some toxic fanbase because we cant agree on a QB. But the reality is, we have had nothing but garbage, QBs who didnt live up to expectations, average QBs, or QBs just good enough to break your heart (or some combination of that), for the last 2+ decades. Some people homer out for the current starter. Some people are always wanting the current starter replaced. And some people are in the middle.

Once we finally get a franchise QB again, there wont be nearly the amount of fighting on this board.

Originally posted by WolfTotem:
Another good video from Tim.

dissecting preseason tape is so worthless