Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
no worries about Trey's finger, won't hurt him handing off or running

He should just cut it off like Lott did.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Now we're including almost turnovers? I guess we should include almost interceptions when logging qb stats? While we're at it, we should include almost td's and almost completions.

Fumbling the ball is fumbling the ball. If you have ever played football before, you would understand that fumble recoveries are largely due to luck. Running backs are regularly benched for fumbling, regardless of who recovers.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
dissecting preseason tape is so worthless

I'm sure the team doesn't do it, because it's so worthless.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
dissecting preseason tape is so worthless

I'm sure the team doesn't do it, because it's so worthless.

the big difference is the team understands what the focus of any given play entailed.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
dissecting preseason tape is so worthless

I'm sure the team doesn't do it, because it's so worthless.

the big difference is the team understands what the focus of any given play entailed.

That's true for the regular season as well, so how is looking at the film in the preseason any different? Or is dissecting regular season film worthless as well? All football discussion is kind of worthless unless you're on a team or making a living from it.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by ElDannMann:

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:
This thread is so ridiculous. I seriously just come here for the laughs now. Everyone is so hard line JG or hard line TL, when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Cmon guys....

neuro plasticity?
racial comparisons?

It's pretty ridiculous. It's not that black and white. no pun intended. or was it?

I just can't wait for the season to start so we are all rooting for the team instead of for/against certain players.

That's cute that you think the fighting over QBs will stop once the season starts.

It never stops; it's a Webzone staple.

However, in recent years the arguments have gotten ludicrous, like even bringing up neuroplasticity for a 29-year-old man versus the neuroplasticity of a 21-year-old man, whose differences in ability of learning is minimal. Like, lol wut

It never stops and is a Webzone staple because we havent had a franchise QB since Steve Young retired. People try to make it sound like we have some toxic fanbase because we cant agree on a QB. But the reality is, we have had nothing but garbage, QBs who didnt live up to expectations, average QBs, or QBs just good enough to break your heart (or some combination of that), for the last 2+ decades. Some people homer out for the current starter. Some people are always wanting the current starter replaced. And some people are in the middle.

Once we finally get a franchise QB again, there wont be nearly the amount of fighting on this board.

Absolutely. You're 100% correct.

The issue I take is there is no objectivity. People come in here with their bias and their agendad for or against said player. Some people can't say anything good about Jimmy G, others can't see any fault in him. Reality is that he's an average to above average QB with health concerns and a propensity to throw picks at times. But damn can be moved the chains on 3rd down.

The problem is that there's a loud minority of posters who continue to spew their agendas all over the place with zero objectivity, not looking for a discussion or debate, rather all they want to do is complain and moan and tell everyone why their opinion is the correct one. It's annoying.

I just realized this was the Trey thread and not the Jimmy G thread. Oops. Should've based my previous post on Trey more. My bad.

I'm all for a Niners QB thread lol.

"Lance (may need more than a week to recover from his finger injury, Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle reports."

Spin: Early reports of a one-week timeline may have been too optimistic, but that doesn't mean Lance is facing a long-term absence. David Lombardi of The Athletic adds that Lance is going through all the drills at Wednesday's practice, but because of the finger injury, the quarterback was flipping the ball aside rather than throwing it to a teammate. While Jimmy Garoppolo is in line to get the Week 1 start regardless of the rookie's health, Lance's injury could affect San Francisco's red-zone game plan if August reports are to be believed. There's been talk of the Niners rotating Lance in for some QB snaps, particularly in the red zone where a mobile signal-caller can be especially valuable.

Originally posted by ElDannMann:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by ElDannMann:

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:

This thread is so ridiculous. I seriously just come here for the laughs now. Everyone is so hard line JG or hard line TL, when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Cmon guys....

neuro plasticity?
racial comparisons?

It's pretty ridiculous. It's not that black and white. no pun intended. or was it?

I just can't wait for the season to start so we are all rooting for the team instead of for/against certain players.

That's cute that you think the fighting over QBs will stop once the season starts.

It never stops; it's a Webzone staple.

However, in recent years the arguments have gotten ludicrous, like even bringing up neuroplasticity for a 29-year-old man versus the neuroplasticity of a 21-year-old man, whose differences in ability of learning is minimal. Like, lol wut

It never stops and is a Webzone staple because we havent had a franchise QB since Steve Young retired. People try to make it sound like we have some toxic fanbase because we cant agree on a QB. But the reality is, we have had nothing but garbage, QBs who didnt live up to expectations, average QBs, or QBs just good enough to break your heart (or some combination of that), for the last 2+ decades. Some people homer out for the current starter. Some people are always wanting the current starter replaced. And some people are in the middle.

Once we finally get a franchise QB again, there wont be nearly the amount of fighting on this board.

Absolutely. You're 100% correct.

The issue I take is there is no objectivity. People come in here with their bias and their agendad for or against said player. Some people can't say anything good about Jimmy G, others can't see any fault in him. Reality is that he's an average to above average QB with health concerns and a propensity to throw picks at times. But damn can be moved the chains on 3rd down.

The problem is that there's a loud minority of posters who continue to spew their agendas all over the place with zero objectivity, not looking for a discussion or debate, rather all they want to do is complain and moan and tell everyone why their opinion is the correct one. It's annoying.

Did you follow the Alex threads after he left. Years later people were arguing about it posting the same arguments over and over again. The same people who loved that drama are doing the same thing with Jimmy G.
It isn't about the team.

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
"Lance (may need more than a week to recover from his finger injury, Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle reports."

Spin: Early reports of a one-week timeline may have been too optimistic, but that doesn't mean Lance is facing a long-term absence. David Lombardi of The Athletic adds that Lance is going through all the drills at Wednesday's practice, but because of the finger injury, the quarterback was flipping the ball aside rather than throwing it to a teammate. While Jimmy Garoppolo is in line to get the Week 1 start regardless of the rookie's health, Lance's injury could affect San Francisco's red-zone game plan if August reports are to be believed. There's been talk of the Niners rotating Lance in for some QB snaps, particularly in the red zone where a mobile signal-caller can be especially valuable.

Damn it. I feel like this will slow down his development, though he is getting some work done still. I should be the optimist.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Did you follow the Alex threads after he left. Years later people were arguing about it posting the same arguments over and over again. The same people who loved that drama are doing the same thing with Jimmy G.
It isn't about the team.

Oh yeah, absolutely. I first joined the forums on another account in '07 or so, right at the beginning of the Alex Smith drama lol. Those "debates" still haunt me. Same arguments said year after year after year.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fumbling the ball is fumbling the ball. If you have ever played football before, you would understand that fumble recoveries are largely due to luck. Running backs are regularly benched for fumbling, regardless of who recovers.

Baffling that people would say 17 fumbles in 30 games is no biggie

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fumbling the ball is fumbling the ball. If you have ever played football before, you would understand that fumble recoveries are largely due to luck. Running backs are regularly benched for fumbling, regardless of who recovers.

Baffling that people would say 17 fumbles in 30 games is no biggie

Crazy right? Because we recovered 12 of them, its not a problem? Miss me with that.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fumbling the ball is fumbling the ball. If you have ever played football before, you would understand that fumble recoveries are largely due to luck. Running backs are regularly benched for fumbling, regardless of who recovers.

Baffling that people would say 17 fumbles in 30 games is no biggie

Crazy right? Because we recovered 12 of them, its not a problem? Miss me with that.

Nope, things like this aren't a problem and could never possibly cost us a game:

can't wait until we play the Seacawks and our Batman and Robin due at QB is loosed

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fumbling the ball is fumbling the ball. If you have ever played football before, you would understand that fumble recoveries are largely due to luck. Running backs are regularly benched for fumbling, regardless of who recovers.

Baffling that people would say 17 fumbles in 30 games is no biggie

Crazy right? Because we recovered 12 of them, its not a problem? Miss me with that.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-qb-fumbles-2019

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-qb-fumbles-2020