RB Trey Sermon

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's already a wonderful pass receiver - and in Kyle's system, there's always a place for a RB that can catch passes. I'm hoping he'll make that all important 2nd year jump in ability so that he can make the 53. He's a big back, and he'll add size and power to that bunch - if he can just figure out how to hit the right hole vs hesitating he should make the team. I'm also pulling for him.

I wonder what Trey Sermon plays at because if he plays at his combine numbers of 6-0, 215 pounds, I wouldn't consider him a big RB. That's average RB size. In fact, Elijah Mitchell said he played at 212 pounds last season, and nobody has ever called him a big RB despite being almost the exact same size as Trey Sermon.

I'm not sure where this notion that Trey Sermon is a big, powerful RB came from. He's really not--not on tape or in measurements. Now, TDP is a different story. He played at around 230 pounds, and plays every bit to that weight. The dude is freight train on the field. I'm excited to see that dude in this scheme.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's already a wonderful pass receiver - and in Kyle's system, there's always a place for a RB that can catch passes. I'm hoping he'll make that all important 2nd year jump in ability so that he can make the 53. He's a big back, and he'll add size and power to that bunch - if he can just figure out how to hit the right hole vs hesitating he should make the team. I'm also pulling for him.

I wonder what Trey Sermon plays at because if he plays at his combine numbers of 6-0, 215 pounds, I wouldn't consider him a big RB. That's average RB size. In fact, Elijah Mitchell said he played at 212 pounds last season, and nobody has ever called him a big RB despite being almost the exact same size as Trey Sermon.

I'm not sure where this notion that Trey Sermon is a big, powerful RB came from. He's really not--not on tape or in measurements. Now, TDP is a different story. He played at around 230 pounds, and plays every bit to that weight. The dude is freight train on the field. I'm excited to see that dude in this scheme.

I think it comes from his college tape with him having success between the tackles. Physically, you are right, Sermon isn't a bruiser.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's already a wonderful pass receiver - and in Kyle's system, there's always a place for a RB that can catch passes. I'm hoping he'll make that all important 2nd year jump in ability so that he can make the 53. He's a big back, and he'll add size and power to that bunch - if he can just figure out how to hit the right hole vs hesitating he should make the team. I'm also pulling for him.

I wonder what Trey Sermon plays at because if he plays at his combine numbers of 6-0, 215 pounds, I wouldn't consider him a big RB. That's average RB size. In fact, Elijah Mitchell said he played at 212 pounds last season, and nobody has ever called him a big RB despite being almost the exact same size as Trey Sermon.

I'm not sure where this notion that Trey Sermon is a big, powerful RB came from. He's really not--not on tape or in measurements. Now, TDP is a different story. He played at around 230 pounds, and plays every bit to that weight. The dude is freight train on the field. I'm excited to see that dude in this scheme.

Agree. He isn't a *big* back - but he is bigger than Kyle's usual 190 Lb speedsters (Mostert/Brieda/Hasty). On top of that, as THL408 said, he plays big, he's a tackle breaking runner more than a speedy shifty lighting-in-a-bottle running back. I actually like the fact that Kyle's going bigger on the running back side - and possibly signals a shift to a more power running type of philosophy. I know that the outside zone scheme - under Kyle - seems to eat up a lot of OLinemen for whatever reason. I think injuries are factoring into the 49ers getting bigger running backs as well as those two heartbreaking losses because Kyle' couldn't buy a first down with the running back he had back then.

Nice to see this kid grinding. He looks very focused. Trim. Working on zone drills. Love it.

Bust

Originally posted by Joecool:
Bust

Haha. Kyle certainly isn't taking any chances.

Who is Trey Sermon?

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Who is Trey Sermon?

Some guy who was overdraftted

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's already a wonderful pass receiver - and in Kyle's system, there's always a place for a RB that can catch passes. I'm hoping he'll make that all important 2nd year jump in ability so that he can make the 53. He's a big back, and he'll add size and power to that bunch - if he can just figure out how to hit the right hole vs hesitating he should make the team. I'm also pulling for him.

I wonder what Trey Sermon plays at because if he plays at his combine numbers of 6-0, 215 pounds, I wouldn't consider him a big RB. That's average RB size. In fact, Elijah Mitchell said he played at 212 pounds last season, and nobody has ever called him a big RB despite being almost the exact same size as Trey Sermon.

I'm not sure where this notion that Trey Sermon is a big, powerful RB came from. He's really not--not on tape or in measurements. Now, TDP is a different story. He played at around 230 pounds, and plays every bit to that weight. The dude is freight train on the field. I'm excited to see that dude in this scheme.

I think it comes from his college tape with him having success between the tackles. Physically, you are right, Sermon isn't a bruiser.

He needs a strong camp this year to crack the 53, imo. We dealt with injuries at the RB position thoughout the entire season. We ended up using Deebo as a spell back. That just wasn't a good look for Sermon at all, not to have made it onto the field at any point last season.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Bust

I don't disagree as of right now. I was high on him pre draft (still didn't expect him to go before round 4) but now I'm questioning why I was that high on him to begin with.

Probably one of my biggest misses so far.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's already a wonderful pass receiver - and in Kyle's system, there's always a place for a RB that can catch passes. I'm hoping he'll make that all important 2nd year jump in ability so that he can make the 53. He's a big back, and he'll add size and power to that bunch - if he can just figure out how to hit the right hole vs hesitating he should make the team. I'm also pulling for him.

I wonder what Trey Sermon plays at because if he plays at his combine numbers of 6-0, 215 pounds, I wouldn't consider him a big RB. That's average RB size. In fact, Elijah Mitchell said he played at 212 pounds last season, and nobody has ever called him a big RB despite being almost the exact same size as Trey Sermon.

I'm not sure where this notion that Trey Sermon is a big, powerful RB came from. He's really not--not on tape or in measurements. Now, TDP is a different story. He played at around 230 pounds, and plays every bit to that weight. The dude is freight train on the field. I'm excited to see that dude in this scheme.

I think it comes from his college tape with him having success between the tackles. Physically, you are right, Sermon isn't a bruiser.

He needs a strong camp this year to crack the 53, imo. We dealt with injuries at the RB position thoughout the entire season. We ended up using Deebo as a spell back. That just wasn't a good look for Sermon at all, not to have made it onto the field at any point last season.

He started the Green Bay game. And had over 100 carries.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's already a wonderful pass receiver - and in Kyle's system, there's always a place for a RB that can catch passes. I'm hoping he'll make that all important 2nd year jump in ability so that he can make the 53. He's a big back, and he'll add size and power to that bunch - if he can just figure out how to hit the right hole vs hesitating he should make the team. I'm also pulling for him.

I wonder what Trey Sermon plays at because if he plays at his combine numbers of 6-0, 215 pounds, I wouldn't consider him a big RB. That's average RB size. In fact, Elijah Mitchell said he played at 212 pounds last season, and nobody has ever called him a big RB despite being almost the exact same size as Trey Sermon.

I'm not sure where this notion that Trey Sermon is a big, powerful RB came from. He's really not--not on tape or in measurements. Now, TDP is a different story. He played at around 230 pounds, and plays every bit to that weight. The dude is freight train on the field. I'm excited to see that dude in this scheme.

I think it comes from his college tape with him having success between the tackles. Physically, you are right, Sermon isn't a bruiser.

He needs a strong camp this year to crack the 53, imo. We dealt with injuries at the RB position thoughout the entire season. We ended up using Deebo as a spell back. That just wasn't a good look for Sermon at all, not to have made it onto the field at any point last season.

He started the Green Bay game. And had 10 carries.

Yes. Sorry. I was wrong. He had 41 carries last season for 167 yards. 30 of those 41 carries came in the first 4 weeks of the season. Where was he at the rest of the season? We sure could have used him.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's already a wonderful pass receiver - and in Kyle's system, there's always a place for a RB that can catch passes. I'm hoping he'll make that all important 2nd year jump in ability so that he can make the 53. He's a big back, and he'll add size and power to that bunch - if he can just figure out how to hit the right hole vs hesitating he should make the team. I'm also pulling for him.

I wonder what Trey Sermon plays at because if he plays at his combine numbers of 6-0, 215 pounds, I wouldn't consider him a big RB. That's average RB size. In fact, Elijah Mitchell said he played at 212 pounds last season, and nobody has ever called him a big RB despite being almost the exact same size as Trey Sermon.

I'm not sure where this notion that Trey Sermon is a big, powerful RB came from. He's really not--not on tape or in measurements. Now, TDP is a different story. He played at around 230 pounds, and plays every bit to that weight. The dude is freight train on the field. I'm excited to see that dude in this scheme.

I think it comes from his college tape with him having success between the tackles. Physically, you are right, Sermon isn't a bruiser.

He needs a strong camp this year to crack the 53, imo. We dealt with injuries at the RB position thoughout the entire season. We ended up using Deebo as a spell back. That just wasn't a good look for Sermon at all, not to have made it onto the field at any point last season.

He started the Green Bay game. And had 10 carries.

Yes. Sorry. I was wrong. He had 41 carries last season for 167 yards. 30 of those 41 carries came in the first 4 weeks of the season. Where was he at the rest of the season? We sure could have used him.

If memory serves, he was a bit of an Anthony Dixon throwback. Dithering rather than hitting the hole, and when he did hit the hole on time, he ran into the back of his blockers.

That's a real shame because, putting aside our injury issues last year, we were woeful at 3rd and short. We really could've used the type of runner that Sermon was supposed to be. That's why I don't hate the Davis-Price pick. It wasn't good value, but I get why they did it. A back that can move the pile on 3rd and Obvious is an important component.

All that said, simply starting a QB that will punish teams for crowding the box will go a long way toward making things easier on runs between the tackles. I do hope Sermon gets it together, but I'm not betting on it.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Sorry. I was wrong. He had 41 carries last season for 167 yards. 30 of those 41 carries came in the first 4 weeks of the season. Where was he at the rest of the season? We sure could have used him.

Maybe with it looking more and more like we are going to be running more inside zone, we cab get some production out of him. I'm more concerned about our offensive line than any of the backs on the roster.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Sorry. I was wrong. He had 41 carries last season for 167 yards. 30 of those 41 carries came in the first 4 weeks of the season. Where was he at the rest of the season? We sure could have used him.

Maybe with it looking more and more like we are going to be running more inside zone, we cab get some production out of him. I'm more concerned about our offensive line than any of the backs on the roster.

Its understandable to be concerned going into the season with a couple unknowns on the O line. I just hope someone steps up besides Mitchell at the RB position.