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I'll be pissed if this guy makes the team over Mason
Originally posted by genus49:
People down on Sermon but from most accounts he's looked good in camp. His blocking hasn't been ideal and he was playing with an injury in this one. Mason was impressive but was going up against 3rd stringers. Swap them around and it may equalize some.

If I'm the 49ers I'm keeping Sermon and Mason and looking to move Wilson or Hasty. Neither guy has a track record of staying healthy and while Wilson had a damn good season when he was healthy in 2020 it's not like either guy is a stud when healthy. Both also are free agents at the end of this season. Sermon under contract for 2 more years after. Have to look at roster building and keeping cheap players under contract. Are Hasty and Wilson that much better than Sermon? I'm not sure of that.
Hasty provides the change-of-pace/pass-catching aspect. Wilson has the receipts of filling in very admirably when other guys are hurt. Although, he struggles with injuries himself. He also has good hands out of the backfield. Sermon is still showing the indecisiveness and lack of vision he showed last year. We'll see what happens, but I'm not holding my breath that he'll make it.
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Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon
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Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
Originally posted by mod:
I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

Keeping 4 RBs when 3 of the 4 haven't been able to stay healthy and the 4th is a rookie who runs very physically is not very smart. Quick way to find yourself scouring the waiver wire like last season. We did it last season and got burned within the first two weeks.

Mason making the PS is a serious gamble especially when other teams know the success of Kyle picking RBs late and how many run a variation of his system now.
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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
I'll be pissed if this guy makes the team over Mason

or hasty...... he has done nothing.. deserved nothing.. who cares if he practice greats when he s**ts the bed on game day and this mainly against guys who are not front line guys
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
cuz he has produced unlike sermon and actually wilson right now
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
cuz he has produced unlike sermon and actually wilson right now

No way is Hasty better than Mason.
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
cuz he has produced unlike sermon and actually wilson right now

No way is Hasty better than Mason.

mitchell. wilson. hasty and mason should stay
Cut him.

Just because we moved up to get him shouldn't change the decision. He sucks. Move on.

I can never understand how draft position affects these decisions. When you have a player on your squad for this long with such little production at the RB position it should be irrelevant. Especially the RB position which is typically a step in and produce position. Yes some you need to patient with but zero improvement while undrafted players show you up says alot.
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
cuz he has produced unlike sermon and actually wilson right now

No way is Hasty better than Mason.

mitchell. wilson. hasty and mason should stay

You don't like TDP?
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
cuz he has produced unlike sermon and actually wilson right now

No way is Hasty better than Mason.

mitchell. wilson. hasty and mason should stay

You don't like TDP?

Mitchell (2023) then RFA
TDP (2025)
Mason (2024)

Contractually these 3 should stay

Jeff Wilson (2022) Love Wilson but he is not signed long term so i rank him lower
Trey Sermon (2024)- I think he is RB 4 due to contract

Out
Practice Squad
Hasty
Wilson (veteran exemption)
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
cuz he has produced unlike sermon and actually wilson right now

No way is Hasty better than Mason.

mitchell. wilson. hasty and mason should stay

You don't like TDP?

i like him to. lol. good problems.. its just a crime against humanity if sermon is given a spot
Originally posted by 9erred:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Sermon hasn't been great but fanbases always have to find a punching bag for whatever reason. Personally Mason was the only back that looked half decent to me. There's a reason Sermon is getting the first team reps with Mitchell out.

Trade?

Lol… more like cut

Kyle doesn't care about RBs (who starts), like his dad, and we have a starter and a backup already. If sermon is on the 53 he will have a chance if Mitchell and Wilson is injured, if not who ever else will replace who isn't up to par to get the job done to win games, next man up RB.

Jordan Mason has been playing against 3rd and 4th stringers, it remains to be seen if he is good enough to play against NFL starters and produce, this happens every preseason on every team, Kyle would know, and if he is, he will be on the 53. IMO Hasty is still the most limited useful back on the team right now, although he has more experience than TDP and Mason, he lack the size and isn't a every down back. Would you keep someone like that again on the 53 over someone else like Sermon or Mason is the question coming up in 10 days.. at this point, they're looking at if a player is going to help the team in any way to get to the SB and win it or is more useful for the long haul and future to keep, if not what's the point of keeping them? Hasty was on the team last year, did he help the 9ers win the NFCC? Not really.. Hasty had 3 targets and 1 catch for 6 yards and no rushes in the NFCC last year, useless really, has he imporved much, probably not, you can say the same about Semon but who is going to be the every down back if Mitchell and Wilson are injured? Sermon TDP or Mason if kept on 53? Definitely not Hasty LOL, because he's not a every down back and not even a great 3rd down back at that..

I see room for 4 players

Mitchell
Wilson
Hasty
TDP

PS - Mason

There is no room for Sermon

What's the fascination with Hasty?
cuz he has produced unlike sermon and actually wilson right now

No way is Hasty better than Mason.

mitchell. wilson. hasty and mason should stay

You don't like TDP?

Mitchell (2023) then RFA
TDP (2025)
Mason (2024)

Contractually these 3 should stay

Jeff Wilson (2022) Love Wilson but he is not signed long term so i rank him lower
Trey Sermon (2024)- I think he is RB 4 due to contract

Out
Practice Squad
Hasty
Wilson (veteran exemption)

Mitchell, Wilson, TDP and Mason Is what I would go with If It was left to me.

As for Sermon and Hasty, they both should be cut. I'm not a fan of either.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Mitchell, Wilson, TDP and Mason Is what I would go with If It was left to me.

As for Sermon and Hasty, they both should be cut. I'm not a fan of either.

Yeah I'd keep those 4. Would be a solid room.
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