Safety Tony Jefferson

Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
Something is up with all these safeties. I think Ryans is thinking up some three safety packages.

Mega Nickel

we have nickel packages, dime packages, mega nickel packages, now introducing the dollar packages

Loch Ness monsta
tree fiddy package

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
They're okay, I think Jefferson could easily replace Tartt.

I don't

They do nothing spectacular, they're just good players. Good players are easily replaced. Lets not forget they're made of glass.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
They're okay, I think Jefferson could easily replace Tartt.

I don't

They do nothing spectacular, they're just good players. Good players are easily replaced. Lets not forget they're made of glass.

You have to understand a few of our fans on this message board will rip on players that are not top 10-15 at their position and then they will stick up for these safeties that aren't even in the top 10 at their position. It's hilarious the hypocrisy that goes on.

They make excuses for not getting interceptions, turnovers, PBU's or even good coverage at times. Aside from our starting safeties not being in the top 10 at their position, they are also often injured. This is another reason why some of the fans on this board contradict themselves. They will rip on players that are injured a lot and both our safeties fit that description to a T. But, they will still stick up for them 🤣Disregard it. Our front office knows better, we know better.

Bottom line is we need better more reliable play from our safeties and we are working toward that by bringing in more depth and competition. We need higher standards set at the safety position in terms of play and availability.

Also, for all of you that want to minimize the lack of turnovers, you do realize that the single most determining factor in winning or losing a game is turnovers???? Not solid coverage some of the time when they're healthy.

Before he got hurt w/Ravens, he was lighting it up. We know Tartt's injury-prone, hopefully Jefferson can stay healthy. I'm sure Ryans is planning on using his S's plenty in some different situations than Saleh did. Depth is what we needed...now we've got it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Over who? Tarrt & ward are pretty darn good safeties

This x1000. Most folks have underrated them because most fans don't have a clue and just believe everything they read.

Huge upgrade over that hyphenated name guy, even with all the past injuries.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
They do nothing spectacular, they're just good players. Good players are easily replaced. Lets not forget they're made of glass.

Not even close to true…they're actually asked to do quite a bit and play roles on this scheme that allow other players to do their thing.

ward has been pretty healthy the past two seasons, Tartt does have health issues as of late.

both are every undervalued by a lot of 49er fans imo.

Originally posted by elguapo:
You have to understand a few of our fans on this message board will rip on players that are not top 10-15 at their position and then they will stick up for these safeties that aren't even in the top 10 at their position. It's hilarious the hypocrisy that goes on.

They make excuses for not getting interceptions, turnovers, PBU's or even good coverage at times. Aside from our starting safeties not being in the top 10 at their position, they are also often injured. This is another reason why some of the fans on this board contradict themselves. They will rip on players that are injured a lot and both our safeties fit that description to a T. But, they will still stick up for them 🤣Disregard it. Our front office knows better, we know better.

Bottom line is we need better more reliable play from our safeties and we are working toward that by bringing in more depth and competition. We need higher standards set at the safety position in terms of play and availability.

Also, for all of you that want to minimize the lack of turnovers, you do realize that the single most determining factor in winning or losing a game is turnovers???? Not solid coverage some of the time when they're healthy.

And other fans will point out that they simply don't understand what they're asked to do in this scheme and like to stat chase…tartt and Ward are damn good safeties, they do what they're asked to do in this defense. Their man issue is health (more Tartt at this pt) not their play.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
They do nothing spectacular, they're just good players. Good players are easily replaced. Lets not forget they're made of glass.

Not even close to true…they're actually asked to do quite a bit and play roles on this scheme that allow other players to do their thing.

ward has been pretty healthy the past two seasons, Tartt does have health issues as of late.

both are every undervalued by a lot of 49er fans imo.

This defense has been pretty much Bosa, Buckner, Warner and Sherman. If they really wanted to replace them they easily could, so much better prospects out there than Tartt and Ward.

Tell me what have they done that other Safeties couldn't?? Btw Tony Jefferson pre-injury was much better than Tartt. Its not like teams were knocking each other out of the way to sign them either.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And other fans will point out that they simply don't understand what they're asked to do in this scheme and like to stat chase…tartt and Ward are damn good safeties, they do what they're asked to do in this defense. Their man issue is health (more Tartt at this pt) not their play.

Regardless what they're asked to do, you make it sound like no other Safety can do those things.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
This defense has been pretty much Bosa, Buckner, Warner and Sherman. If they really wanted to replace them they easily could, so much better prospects out there than Tartt and Ward.

Tell me what have they done that other Safeties couldn't?? Btw Tony Jefferson pre-injury was much better than Tartt. Its not like teams were knocking each other out of the way to sign them either.

They both play a s**t ton of man coverage, which allows for someone to blitz or Warner to roam around. Not many safeties can lineup vs WRs on 3rd down or TEs but both can… They both are a huge reason SF is great at stopping the deep ball and don't give up a ton of YAC. They're great tacklers and play well vs the run.

Im not saying they're pro-bowlers but they're damn good safeties and do what they're asked to do…they say our scheme has been and what they ask the safeties to do they're never gonna get all those high end stats like INTs. It's simply the truth.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Regardless what they're asked to do, you make it sound like no other Safety can do those things.

No I didn't…all I said is they're asked to do more than what you think. Ward talked about it, if he was given that robber role as a safety he would be able to break on more routes and get INTs. He's playing a ton of man coverage and got something like 2 passing attempts thrown his way past yr (per game).

IMO they're solid S that would be starting on just about every team in the NFL, they're not pro-bowlers but If I had to pick a position that you don't need to pay a ton of money to have a pro-bowler it's safety.

Solid signing for depth. Lynch knows he can't count on Tartt for (at least) 17 games this season so this is good. Depth is key to making a super bowl run

This signing actually tells me more about their feelings on Moore and Harris

I like that JL is preparing for injuries. Loading up on Running Backs, Dlinemen, Olinemen, Safeties, Quarterbacks. Even alot of depth at WR despite as of right now lacking a #3 until somewhat steps up. It's still a large WR room. Sanu,Hurd,James,Jennings,Watkins, Benjamin, Sherfield, All fighting for the last 4 spots after Aiyuk and Deebo. And can still see us signing another WR from now until camp. I would like to see us sign Wright who is still out there to give us more Linebacker depth. And another Cornerback since it's the one position we may lack depth at.