Safety Tony Jefferson

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Said this in the draft forum safeties have a minimal impact on a game and are not valued by this Front office. It's sucks but it makes sense. If you think Ward and Tartt are gonna get replaced by a street free agent and a 5th round pick that's a hell of a leap. Hopefully with a new DC he will put our guys in a more advantageous positions. But if they just continue not giving up huge plays I'll be happy it's not like this team was lacking in the turnover category last season.

I guess stats are more important than having a top 5 pass defense to some people. Even without a good pass rush our pass D was legit last year. Even with players like Ahkello, that garbage can Vs Miami, Dontae Johnson playing nickle, Jimmie Ward looking like the worst DB in the NFL the first few weeks before turning it around once JV started playing.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by cciowa:
tarrt is way over rated by the fan base in my opinion. along side of the x center we had and thank god retired

Tartt Is actually understated by this fan base, we all saw what happened to the D In 2019 once he went down for afew games due to Injury.

we will just agree to disagree . if jefferson gets beat out. great. i hope tart and ward will be solid for us. hell. i am not saying this guy is a savior. I just think if he is healthy he can be what jason v was to us last year. if i am wrong. i will admit it. like i always do. from marlon moore to the team not signing jimmy back in the day

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Before he got hurt w/Ravens, he was lighting it up. We know Tartt's injury-prone, hopefully Jefferson can stay healthy. I'm sure Ryans is planning on using his S's plenty in some different situations than Saleh did. Depth is what we needed...now we've got it.

this is a good post.. and as we know. we got money issues. so this is a good signing considering the status of our financial house

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
We have loaded up on interior linemen and safeties this offseason. Ryans is scheming up some crazy looking defense.

This. I wish they would've mixed in another cb and edge but they still can I guess

i may be nuts. shock.. but with the drafting of the rookies.. i think the cornerback thing is set for camp.. yes to the edge rusher. but i just think no one is out there we can get cheap and barring a trade.. that is our best option. sign a guy cheap. .. if there is anyone even out there

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I guess stats are more important than having a top 5 pass defense to some people. Even without a good pass rush our pass D was legit last year. Even with players like Ahkello, that garbage can Vs Miami, Dontae Johnson playing nickle, Jimmie Ward looking like the worst DB in the NFL the first few weeks before turning it around once JV started playing.

Yeah for the most part our safeties do what is asked of them...neither are pro-bowlers, but we're not paying them top end money either.

I'm guessing we let Tartt walk and will have to find another guy. I just don't get the hate overall for both guys. We will see, I'm pumped to see the rookie DBs throughout training camp and preseason...even Hufanga

I was hoping Moore was gonna get more snaps, he's got the ability just needs to work on angles and play recognition IMO (which comes with more snaps).

overall I'm not that worried about our secondary this yr.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah for the most part our safeties do what is asked of them...neither are pro-bowlers, but we're not paying them top end money either.

I'm guessing we let Tartt walk and will have to find another guy. I just don't get the hate overall for both guys. We will see, I'm pumped to see the rookie DBs throughout training camp and preseason...even Hufanga

I was hoping Moore was gonna get more snaps, he's got the ability just needs to work on angles and play recognition IMO (which comes with more snaps).

overall I'm not that worried about our secondary this yr.

Moore is also a liability in terms of tackling. He's probably our most athletic player on the team and word is he billed up a bit this off season so hopefully his tackling improves and he can start taking snaps.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Moore is also a liability in terms of tackling. He's probably our most athletic player on the team and word is he billed up a bit this off season so hopefully his tackling improves and he can start taking snaps.

would be a great thing to see him take it up a notch.

I honestly have no issues with Ward & Tartt at Safety, I don't think they're great, they're certainly very good, but when the team can save $6.795M in 2022 by letting go of Ward, that would go a long ways towards extending some guys(Deebo, Dre) or help re-sign guys(Wilson, Dwelley, Sherfield, Pruitt, Key, Hurst, Brunskill, Givens, Kerr, Gallman, Harris, etc...) plus their key FAs(Laken, Jones, Verrett, K'Waun, Moore, Tartt).

In 2022 I would envision a safety tandem of Tarvarius Moore at FS and Talanoa Hufanga at SS.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly have no issues with Ward & Tartt at Safety, I don't think they're great, they're certainly very good, but when the team can save $6.795M in 2022 by letting go of Ward, that would go a long ways towards extending some guys(Deebo, Dre) or help re-sign guys(Wilson, Dwelley, Sherfield, Pruitt, Key, Hurst, Brunskill, Givens, Kerr, Gallman, Harris, etc...) plus their key FAs(Laken, Jones, Verrett, K'Waun, Moore, Tartt).

In 2022 I would envision a safety tandem of Tarvarius Moore at FS and Talanoa Hufanga at SS.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly have no issues with Ward & Tartt at Safety, I don't think they're great, they're certainly very good, but when the team can save $6.795M in 2022 by letting go of Ward, that would go a long ways towards extending some guys(Deebo, Dre) or help re-sign guys(Wilson, Dwelley, Sherfield, Pruitt, Key, Hurst, Brunskill, Givens, Kerr, Gallman, Harris, etc...) plus their key FAs(Laken, Jones, Verrett, K'Waun, Moore, Tartt).

In 2022 I would envision a safety tandem of Tarvarius Moore at FS and Talanoa Hufanga at SS.

I get safety isn't super important but come on now

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly have no issues with Ward & Tartt at Safety, I don't think they're great, they're certainly very good, but when the team can save $6.795M in 2022 by letting go of Ward, that would go a long ways towards extending some guys(Deebo, Dre) or help re-sign guys(Wilson, Dwelley, Sherfield, Pruitt, Key, Hurst, Brunskill, Givens, Kerr, Gallman, Harris, etc...) plus their key FAs(Laken, Jones, Verrett, K'Waun, Moore, Tartt).

In 2022 I would envision a safety tandem of Tarvarius Moore at FS and Talanoa Hufanga at SS.

I get safety isn't super important but come on now

The only time a safety has a big impact on a game is when he is bad.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Hahaha.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly have no issues with Ward & Tartt at Safety, I don't think they're great, they're certainly very good, but when the team can save $6.795M in 2022 by letting go of Ward, that would go a long ways towards extending some guys(Deebo, Dre) or help re-sign guys(Wilson, Dwelley, Sherfield, Pruitt, Key, Hurst, Brunskill, Givens, Kerr, Gallman, Harris, etc...) plus their key FAs(Laken, Jones, Verrett, K'Waun, Moore, Tartt).

In 2022 I would envision a safety tandem of Tarvarius Moore at FS and Talanoa Hufanga at SS.

Is this from Austin Powers, if so, believe it or not, I've never seen any of the movies. I just watched the 3 Matrix movies not long ago.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Is this from Austin Powers, if so, believe it or not, I've never seen any of the movies. I just watched the 3 Matrix movies not long ago.

Yeah it's Austin Powers.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
The only time a safety has a big impact on a game is when he is bad.

Agreed, also a lot of the names Ab brought up to resign aren't really guys I'm that worried about…if they ball out sweet go get paid, SF gets a comp pick to replace them.

as far as resigning Deebo/Dre, Deebo has to show he can play a full season before we start handing him out a bunch of cash and I might get crucified for this but I didn't think Geeenlaw played lights out this past season…he's gotta show some improvements too.