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Jun 24, 2021 at 7:04 AM
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
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This is true, and I thought is was a disgrace for the NFL to pressure an team to spend a draft pick on a talent-wise undeserving player for PC politics. But I wonder what the NFL will do when/if Carl Nassib begins to experience ostracization in the locker room.

Let's see how masculine they are or if feminists made them soft.

Well, considering how male sports locker rooms are pretty much one few last bastions where men can actually be men and voice/exercise their raw masculinity unfettered and without compunction I will not be surprised to later learn that Carl Nassib's locker room experience changes for the worse. I'm not predicting or even wanting that, just saying that I won't be shocked.

Ya what a great thing...

And it does sound like you want it, you are the pro masculinity guy. Can't have it both ways
Jun 24, 2021 at 7:15 AM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
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Let's see how masculine they are or if feminists made them soft.

Well, considering how male sports locker rooms are pretty much one few last bastions where men can actually be men and voice/exercise their raw masculinity unfettered and without compunction I will not be surprised to later learn that Carl Nassib's locker room experience changes for the worse. I'm not predicting or even wanting that, just saying that I won't be shocked.

Ya what a great thing...

And it does sound like you want it, you are the pro masculinity guy. Can't have it both ways

So, being a "pro masculinity guy" (whatever that means) means that I want him to experience ostracism in the locker room? Are you saying that I am in favor of him being "gay bashed"? And please explain to me the "both ways" I'm trying to have it.
Jun 24, 2021 at 8:39 AM
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
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Well, considering how male sports locker rooms are pretty much one few last bastions where men can actually be men and voice/exercise their raw masculinity unfettered and without compunction I will not be surprised to later learn that Carl Nassib's locker room experience changes for the worse. I'm not predicting or even wanting that, just saying that I won't be shocked.

Ya what a great thing...

And it does sound like you want it, you are the pro masculinity guy. Can't have it both ways

So, being a "pro masculinity guy" (whatever that means) means that I want him to experience ostracism in the locker room? Are you saying that I am in favor of him being "gay bashed"? And please explain to me the "both ways" I'm trying to have it.

You typed it out in your previous post. Like I said, you can't have it both ways. You can't be this alpha male, pro toxic masculinity, but also say, "man I really wish he doesn't get gay bashed, but that's the reality of NFL locker rooms, the last place where masculinity can thrive..."

So you're definitely for the NFL locker room life style. But you're not for gay bashing...then you might want to rethink your stance on being so pro "raw masculinity". Because gay bashing and your "raw masculinity" go hand in hand.
Jun 24, 2021 at 9:12 AM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
You typed it out in your previous post. Like I said, you can't have it both ways. You can't be this alpha male, pro toxic masculinity, but also say, "man I really wish he doesn't get gay bashed, but that's the reality of NFL locker rooms, the last place where masculinity can thrive..."

So you're definitely for the NFL locker room life style. But you're not for gay bashing...then you might want to rethink your stance on being so pro "raw masculinity". Because gay bashing and your "raw masculinity" go hand in hand.

Lol what? Thats probably is more opinion than fact.
Jun 24, 2021 at 9:23 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
You typed it out in your previous post. Like I said, you can't have it both ways. You can't be this alpha male, pro toxic masculinity, but also say, "man I really wish he doesn't get gay bashed, but that's the reality of NFL locker rooms, the last place where masculinity can thrive..."

So you're definitely for the NFL locker room life style. But you're not for gay bashing...then you might want to rethink your stance on being so pro "raw masculinity". Because gay bashing and your "raw masculinity" go hand in hand.

Lol what? Thats probably is more opinion than fact.

In a sense, I mean there's really no way to put that into data. Either way, I was more talking about his definition of masculinity.

This kinda spilled over from the politics thread where it started with Lifer, not being okay with kids being taught about spousal abuse and somehow that makes men less masculine, followed by talks about how being very masculine is important. I understood some of the points he was trying to make, but he made some crazy left turns as well.

I'll just end it at that and drop it.
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Jun 24, 2021 at 9:24 AM ]
Jun 24, 2021 at 9:54 AM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
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Ya what a great thing...

And it does sound like you want it, you are the pro masculinity guy. Can't have it both ways

So, being a "pro masculinity guy" (whatever that means) means that I want him to experience ostracism in the locker room? Are you saying that I am in favor of him being "gay bashed"? And please explain to me the "both ways" I'm trying to have it.

You typed it out in your previous post. Like I said, you can't have it both ways. You can't be this alpha male, pro toxic masculinity, but also say, "man I really wish he doesn't get gay bashed, but that's the reality of NFL locker rooms, the last place where masculinity can thrive..."

So you're definitely for the NFL locker room life style. But you're not for gay bashing...then you might want to rethink your stance on being so pro "raw masculinity". Because gay bashing and your "raw masculinity" go hand in hand.

Before I go into your statement please show mw where I said the below:

"man I really wish he doesn't get gay bashed, but that's the reality of NFL locker rooms, the last place where masculinity can thrive..."
Jun 24, 2021 at 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
You typed it out in your previous post. Like I said, you can't have it both ways. You can't be this alpha male, pro toxic masculinity, but also say, "man I really wish he doesn't get gay bashed, but that's the reality of NFL locker rooms, the last place where masculinity can thrive..."

So you're definitely for the NFL locker room life style. But you're not for gay bashing...then you might want to rethink your stance on being so pro "raw masculinity". Because gay bashing and your "raw masculinity" go hand in hand.

Lol what? Thats probably is more opinion than fact.

In a sense, I mean there's really no way to put that into data. Either way, I was more talking about his definition of masculinity.

This kinda spilled over from the politics thread where it started with Lifer, not being okay with kids being taught about spousal abuse and somehow that makes men less masculine, followed by talks about how being very masculine is important. I understood some of the points he was trying to make, but he made some crazy left turns as well.

I'll just end it at that and drop it.

Good idea. You appear to be reading some things into it that were not intended. So...drop it.
Jun 24, 2021 at 12:32 PM
He plays Defensive End? They ain't nothing Defensive about his End!
Jun 24, 2021 at 1:05 PM
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Originally posted by Eli_23:
He plays Defensive End? They ain't nothing Defensive about his End!

That comment is inappropriate and out of line.
Jun 24, 2021 at 1:18 PM
Good for him. Its about time big time sports and locker rooms see its not an issue. They thought it would be in an issue in the military as they moved away from don't ask don't tell to equality, but it was totally a non-issue. If you can you play, you can play.

Frankly I can't see how something that doesn't impact people bothers people so much.
Jun 24, 2021 at 1:25 PM
Better a gay man than a wife beater or child abuser. We've had too many of them.
Jun 24, 2021 at 1:28 PM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Better a gay man than a wife beater or child abuser. We've had too many of them.

lol wtf. Thats like low key suggesting being gay is almost as bad but not as bad as a wife beater or child abuser. I doubt that is what you meant, but pretty much reads like that.
Jun 24, 2021 at 2:21 PM
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Good for him. Its about time big time sports and locker rooms see its not an issue. They thought it would be in an issue in the military as they moved away from don't ask don't tell to equality, but it was totally a non-issue. If you can you play, you can play.

Frankly I can't see how something that doesn't impact people bothers people so much.

This, for the most part everyone I knew in the military that came out as gay were strongly supported at thats almost 20 years ago now.
Jun 24, 2021 at 2:27 PM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Better a gay man than a wife beater or child abuser. We've had too many of them.

Wth
Jun 24, 2021 at 2:42 PM
This thread is just asking for warnings and bans. Some people really should think before they post.
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