No rescheduling for outbreak among unvaccinated players.

Originally posted by bsyde82:
I'm not trying to start a debate with anyone about covid or the vaccine, and I'm sure many on here will call me a moron or whatever, but surely there must be others on here that don't simply go along with the whole covid response atm? That is, you have valid reasons for not wanting to take the vaccine. Are people aware of the growing reports on VAERS? Yes, I know it's a minimal risk, but if the worst case scenario is death, however how tiny that risk is, why would you want to take a vaccine against a virus that has no chance of harming you (a healthy athlete in their prime)? If people need reminding, the vaccines are only approved under emergency authorization, and never in history have so many people been subjected to what is an experiment (mRNA) vaccine. These are just facts. I assume there are many many others like Deandre who are figuring out what to do.

Higher risk of dying from Covid or life long lung/heart issues than dying from the vaccine. And the data is not even close.

Also, you might want to do some research on the athletes in their prime comment. Most notably NBA player Jason Tatum, who's one of the best players in the league. After he got covid, he was out for weeks and had to come back and play the season on an inhaler. So it effects athletes in their prime as well.

Originally posted by eastie:
LOL. WTF. Conspiracy much?

This is well documented. Too many ignorant people out there calling everything that doesn't come from the State Media as "a conspiracy theory".

Seriously, how hard is it to believe that the same country that enslaved and segregated blacks also experimented on them.

In 2021 the difference between the truth and a conspiracy theory is six months.

truth

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by eastie:
LOL. WTF. Conspiracy much?

This is well documented. Too many ignorant people out there calling everything that doesn't come from the State Media as "a conspiracy theory".

Seriously, how hard is it to believe that the same country that enslaved and segregated blacks also experimented on them.

In 2021 the difference between the truth and a conspiracy theory is six months.

Ya, that was no conspiracy, it actually happened

Glad there is finally one set of rules for everyone. The way it was last year where if you are the Patriots your game gets moved but if you are us you play with what you have was b******t of the highest order.

Also the stupid in here is waaaay to deep....so gonna bail on this thread, the tinfoil hat people are way to much.

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Niners_D:
The CDCs history with black Americans is something to consider in this instance aka the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. The study ended in the 1970's which wasn't that long ago. Considering that 68.7% of the NFL is black, can you blame players who are skeptical of vaccines that aren't expected to be fully approved by the FDA until January?

LOL. WTF. Conspiracy much?

You are joking right? This is a topic that is broadly reported public knowledge. It is so awful that it may sound like a conspiracy, but unfortunately it is very real. Look it up.

And how is this relevant to the vaccination and Covid. There are millions of people around the world getting vaccinated from all backgrounds.

Originally posted by Jcool:
truth

Michael Irvin on his vaccine comments: "I don't care about the right wing. I don't care about the left wing. I only care about a ring.

"I don't care about the conspiracies, 'oh they're trying to kill you.' If the government wanted you dead, our asses would all be dead by now."

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) July 23, 2021

That's b******t. Who would pay the taxes?

People need to stop this worship of government as this holy, infallible institution. Some of the dumbest people in the world are politicians and lawmakers. I don't make the mistake of attributing to malice what I can attribute to pure incompetence and stupidity.

What the hell kind of a vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting and dying from the disease you're being vaccinated from? So by getting the vaccine, you might still get sick and die from the disease. On top of that, you might die because of the vaccine.

So I don't judge people who are skeptical of this so-called "vaccine".

For the record, I'm fully vaccinated. But to hell with all the government-worshipping, virtue-signaling pieces of s**t judging these players when the damn Vice President 9 months ago was saying she didn't trust the vaccine because it was rushed. Nine months ago, the media was also "anti-vax". But now everyone's in lock step. What changed? I think we all know what changed.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Also the stupid in here is waaaay to deep....so gonna bail on this thread, the tinfoil hat people are way to much.

The "tin-foil" people are the ones who get their information from blue check marks on Twitter and the dumb clowns spouting government propaganda on CNN.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Also the stupid in here is waaaay to deep....so gonna bail on this thread, the tinfoil hat people are way to much.

The "tin-foil" people are the ones who get their information from blue check marks on Twitter and the dumb clowns spouting government propaganda on CNN.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
The "tin-foil" people are the ones who get their information from blue check marks on Twitter and the dumb clowns spouting government propaganda on CNN.

Come on.......and FOX is unbiased. People need to be more selective in their news and understand what is fact and what is opinion.

People just dont seem to be able to think independently for themselves on either side of the table. Those that choose to affilate themselves with a particular party just turn their brain off and follow in lock step. This is the problem. I can never understand the hardcore affilation with any political party or presidential leader.

How can you have a great distrust for governrnment and yet have a cult like following of a particular party. Its pure manipulation of the people by the parties.

Pretty sad when vaccines that are saving lives are a politcal football and are choosen across party lines. Just stupid.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
The "tin-foil" people are the ones who get their information from blue check marks on Twitter and the dumb clowns spouting government propaganda on CNN.

Come on.......and FOX is unbiased. People need to be more selective in their news and understand what is fact and what is opinion.

People just dont seem to be able to think independently for themselves on either side of the table. Those that choose to affilate themselves with a particular party just turn their brain off and follow in lock step. This is the problem. I can never understand the hardcore affilation with any political party or presidential leader.

How can you have a great distrust for governrnment and yet have a cult like following of a particular party. Its pure manipulation of the people by the parties.

Pretty sad when vaccines that are saving lives are a politcal football and are choosen across party lines. Just stupid.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Niners_D:
The CDCs history with black Americans is something to consider in this instance aka the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. The study ended in the 1970's which wasn't that long ago. Considering that 68.7% of the NFL is black, can you blame players who are skeptical of vaccines that aren't expected to be fully approved by the FDA until January?

LOL. WTF. Conspiracy much?

You are joking right? This is a topic that is broadly reported public knowledge. It is so awful that it may sound like a conspiracy, but unfortunately it is very real. Look it up.

And how is this relevant to the vaccination and Covid. There are millions of people around the world getting vaccinated from all backgrounds.

It is relevant because it is still a vaccine with emergency approval by the CDC. Given the history of the CDC with people who are black, if there is some hesitancy with a new type of vaccine being pushed by the CDC then it is understandable that there is some hesitation within the community. And yes I'm aware that mRNAs are not new but they are from an application standpoint to humans.

Dr. Robert Malone, one of the primary inventors of mRNAs has spoken at length that there are concerns with the spike proteins within the vaccines and that this needs to be researched further.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Come on.......and FOX is unbiased. People need to be more selective in their news and understand what is fact and what is opinion.

People just dont seem to be able to think independently for themselves on either side of the table. Those that choose to affilate themselves with a particular party just turn their brain off and follow in lock step. This is the problem. I can never understand the hardcore affilation with any political party or presidential leader.

How can you have a great distrust for governrnment and yet have a cult like following of a particular party. Its pure manipulation of the people by the parties.

Pretty sad when vaccines that are saving lives are a politcal football and are choosen across party lines. Just stupid.

"CNN" is my catch-all for 24-hour cable spouting government propaganda. They all spout the same headlines ad-nauseum. CNN to Fox is like Coke to Pepsi. Slightly different flavors of same unhealthy garbage.

If you watch cable news, you are among the most ill-informed and misinformed people in the country.

I don't watch TV and actively block mainstream American news.

The facts are:

• The "vaccine" doesn't prevent you from getting Covid or spreading it to others.
• Covid has a 99.8% survival rate in healthy people with no comorbidities and outside of the risk group.
• Pro athletes are among the most healthy people in the world and they are all outside of the risk group for Covid.
• Thousands have died or become seriously ill from the vaccine according to the VAERS database.

Why can't you understand why some people are reluctant to get the vaccine? Them not taking it isn't hurting the team in any way.

Hospitals are reporting that 99% of the new cases they are seeing are in unvaccinated people. New cases and deaths are risig dramatically as the Delta variant takes over. Many hospitalizations and deaths are now people under 40, not the old and frail.

These players need to get vaccinated. Period.