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Originally posted by MertonSpanks:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:How about you use this opportunity to educate me.
Tell me you are clueless with out telling me you are clueless
Can someone "educate" the willfully ignorant?
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
This has zero to do with black, white or green people. Everyone of ALL backgrounds are getting vaccinated. The CDC does not govern the world when it comes to the vaccine. All countries have there own approvals.
Roberts Malones opinion and his contribution is subject to debate as he did not invent the vaccine. He provided the platform for inject into cells on mice. That was in 1989. Much further development of the mRNA has obviously taken place since.
Perception of the level of trust with the government from a medical standpoint most certainly varies by life experience which includes race.
Robert Malone's opinion is not subject to debate, as there is currently a lot of misinformation as to who he is and his contributions. It is far more than just the platform to inject. Here are his list of patents:
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-w-malone
That could be view multiple ways. He is pretty far removed from todays vaccine. That is why one should not just rely on one persons opinion to form a decision and then decide there is something nerfarious is going on. Thats called manipulation.
Again, think outside your bubble. The CDC is not a world governing body. The world is moving forward with vaccination with their own independent approvals and alot of countries are using the same type of vaccination which really has nothing to do with the US and past history. The proof is in the pudding.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Not 100% but I believe it said if a player has had it they are treated as vaccinated.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:Not 100% but I believe it said if a player has had it they are treated as vaccinated.
Everything I've seen says people that have had the virus don't have as much immunity as people that are vaccinated. They recommend that they still get the shot. Immunity wanes after they've had the virus. Tests show that immunity lasts longer in vaccinated people. People that test positive may develop a lot or just a small amount of immunity depending on how much of the virus they have. The Phizer and Moderna vaccines are still about 60-70% effective against the Delta variant. Breakthrough cases are usually ver y mild and fairly rare.
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
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Perception of the level of trust with the government from a medical standpoint most certainly varies by life experience which includes race.
Robert Malone's opinion is not subject to debate, as there is currently a lot of misinformation as to who he is and his contributions. It is far more than just the platform to inject. Here are his list of patents:
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-w-malone
That could be view multiple ways. He is pretty far removed from todays vaccine. That is why one should not just rely on one persons opinion to form a decision and then decide there is something nerfarious is going on. Thats called manipulation.
Again, think outside your bubble. The CDC is not a world governing body. The world is moving forward with vaccination with their own independent approvals and alot of countries are using the same type of vaccination which really has nothing to do with the US and past history. The proof is in the pudding.
I never stated anything nefarious is going (I don't believe that) on nor did I state that I formed my opinion based solely on one expert's opinions (I haven't), nor am I thinking inside any sort of bubble. There are multiple vaccines with varying degrees of risk, and varying global bodies have decided to move forward without a full vesting or understanding of immediate, mid, or short term effects. Most of the concerns themselves are really not with the mRNA technologies but the accompanying spike proteins which disrupts the cooperative function of human cardiac pericytes in some people.
For the record, my wife has been vaccinated which I support and I have not done so yet due to testing positive to the original Covid strain back in February so my body has the defensive components in the T and B cells. I'm simply stating that the data is incomplete and it is completely respectable that people are voicing concerns regarding a new medical technology which is currently being introduced to the population at large as we speak.
Those who have serious concerns about the currently available mRNA synthetic vaccines with spike proteins or non-mRNA synthetic vaccines with spike proteins should be aware that there is an alternative vaccine which is in the final stages of trials being produced by Valneva. If approved it will be the first Covid vaccine created utilizing traditional vaccine technology which is the whole non-synthetic, deactivated virus.
Originally posted by GoldenFortyNiner:
This is gonna start getting juicy.
wonder who on the Niners isn't vaccinated
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
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That could be view multiple ways. He is pretty far removed from todays vaccine. That is why one should not just rely on one persons opinion to form a decision and then decide there is something nerfarious is going on. Thats called manipulation.
Again, think outside your bubble. The CDC is not a world governing body. The world is moving forward with vaccination with their own independent approvals and alot of countries are using the same type of vaccination which really has nothing to do with the US and past history. The proof is in the pudding.
I never stated anything nefarious is going (I don't believe that) on nor did I state that I formed my opinion based solely on one expert's opinions (I haven't), nor am I thinking inside any sort of bubble. There are multiple vaccines with varying degrees of risk, and varying global bodies have decided to move forward without a full vesting or understanding of immediate, mid, or short term effects. Most of the concerns themselves are really not with the mRNA technologies but the accompanying spike proteins which disrupts the cooperative function of human cardiac pericytes in some people.
For the record, my wife has been vaccinated which I support and I have not done so yet due to testing positive to the original Covid strain back in February so my body has the defensive components in the T and B cells. I'm simply stating that the data is incomplete and it is completely respectable that people are voicing concerns regarding a new medical technology which is currently being introduced to the population at large as we speak.
Those who have serious concerns about the currently available mRNA synthetic vaccines with spike proteins or non-mRNA synthetic vaccines with spike proteins should be aware that there is an alternative vaccine which is in the final stages of trials being produced by Valneva. If approved it will be the first Covid vaccine created utilizing traditional vaccine technology which is the whole non-synthetic, deactivated virus.
Alternative already exists......Astra Zeneca but the US government is really slow too approve for some reason.......
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Everything I've seen says people that have had the virus don't have as much immunity as people that are vaccinated. They recommend that they still get the shot. Immunity wanes after they've had the virus. Tests show that immunity lasts longer in vaccinated people. People that test positive may develop a lot or just a small amount of immunity depending on how much of the virus they have. The Phizer and Moderna vaccines are still about 60-70% effective against the Delta variant. Breakthrough cases are usually ver y mild and fairly rare.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Alternative already exists......Astra Zeneca but the US government is really slow too approve for some reason.......