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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by Bloodless:

I thought Leftwhich was gonna be their guy. I never thought Pederson was the greatest coach but he has solid credentials. Wentz regressed a lot under him so I thought they might want to get another guy to work with Lawrence.

The owners are avoiding Eric Bieniemy and Byron Leftwich like the plague. The Saints are "interviewing" Bieniemy. But how many "interviews" has he had?

FWIW EB has had 2 I think in this cycle, Denver and New Orleans.

Leftwich had 3 :Chicago, Jacksonville and New Orleans.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by Bloodless:

I thought Leftwhich was gonna be their guy. I never thought Pederson was the greatest coach but he has solid credentials. Wentz regressed a lot under him so I thought they might want to get another guy to work with Lawrence.

The owners are avoiding Eric Bieniemy and Byron Leftwich like the plague. The Saints are "interviewing" Bieniemy. But how many "interviews" has he had?

FWIW EB has had 2 I think in this cycle, Denver and New Orleans.

Leftwich had 3 :Chicago, Jacksonville and New Orleans.

Yup, this cycle. But how many in other cycles? Chicago chose Matt freaking Eberflus over Leftwich, and nobody here in Chicago actually believes that was really a Ryan Poles hire.
Originally posted by evil:
FWIW EB has had 2 I think in this cycle, Denver and New Orleans.

Leftwich had 3 :Chicago, Jacksonville and New Orleans.

Bieniemy is never going to be a HC. Even Chiefs fans are mad at him for causing them to lose Mike Kafka.

He's the Pete Carmichael Jr of Kansas City.
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Yup, this cycle. But how many in other cycles? Chicago chose Matt freaking Eberflus over Leftwich, and nobody here in Chicago actually believes that was really a Ryan Poles hire.

What is wrong with Eberflus?

Eberflus has been a pretty hot name the last 2 cycles and it seemed like he would eventually get an opportunity as a HC. None of the fans or even local media and talking heads are sitting in on these interviews so hard to know who truly impresses and who doesn't and how each candidates went.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Yup, this cycle. But how many in other cycles? Chicago chose Matt freaking Eberflus over Leftwich, and nobody here in Chicago actually believes that was really a Ryan Poles hire.

What is wrong with Eberflus?

Eberflus has been a pretty hot name the last 2 cycles and it seemed like he would eventually get an opportunity as a HC. None of the fans or even local media and talking heads are sitting in on these interviews so hard to know who truly impresses and who doesn't and how each candidates went.

So Leftwich and Bieniemy need better interviewing skills? I can tell you there's a lot of mad folks here about that hire. Many here (not me) thought they'd hire Leftwich. When Eberflus was announced the Chicago twitter-vers went nuts.

Nothing "wrong" with Eberflus. It's just the Bears needed an offensive minded HC who could come in and develop Justin Fields. You had one of the top offensive minds in your building who called plays in a SB win last season. The defense wasn't the issue with the Bears last season. It was the offense.
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Yup, this cycle. But how many in other cycles? Chicago chose Matt freaking Eberflus over Leftwich, and nobody here in Chicago actually believes that was really a Ryan Poles hire.

What is wrong with Eberflus?

Eberflus has been a pretty hot name the last 2 cycles and it seemed like he would eventually get an opportunity as a HC. None of the fans or even local media and talking heads are sitting in on these interviews so hard to know who truly impresses and who doesn't and how each candidates went.

So Leftwich and Bieniemy need better interviewing skills? I can tell you there's a lot of mad folks here about that hire. Many here (not me) thought they'd hire Leftwich. When Eberflus was announced the Chicago twitter-vers went nuts.

Nothing "wrong" with Eberflus. It's just the Bears needed an offensive minded HC who could come in and develop Justin Fields. You had one of the top offensive minds in your building who called plays in a SB win last season. The defense wasn't the issue with the Bears last season. It was the offense.

I'm not sure about Left... but I think Bieniemy deserves a chance at least... I wonder if his agent even advised him to try becoming the main man at the new USFL...
Originally posted by 9moon:
I'm not sure about Left... but I think Bieniemy deserves a chance at least... I wonder if his agent even advised him to try becoming the main man at the new USFL...

This doesn't make any sense to me. Leftwich is a former NFL quarterback that had to work his way up from being a quality control coach to coaching QB's to calling plays for his offense, and not just for Brady, he also had success running the offense in Tampa when Winston was still QB. Dude started at the bottom as a coach and made a natural progression while having experience coaching up the most valuable position in the game.

Bieniemy is a former RB, that has primarily coached RB's and no one can really define what his responsibility in KC is beyond holding a clipboard for Andy Reid while being on a team with the most stacked offensive talent in the NFL.

Beyond that, if you've ever watched an interview with the guy, he comes across like a Singletary/Tomsula meathead that just throws out an endless array of empty football cliches.
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Yup, this cycle. But how many in other cycles? Chicago chose Matt freaking Eberflus over Leftwich, and nobody here in Chicago actually believes that was really a Ryan Poles hire.

What is wrong with Eberflus?

Eberflus has been a pretty hot name the last 2 cycles and it seemed like he would eventually get an opportunity as a HC. None of the fans or even local media and talking heads are sitting in on these interviews so hard to know who truly impresses and who doesn't and how each candidates went.

So Leftwich and Bieniemy need better interviewing skills? I can tell you there's a lot of mad folks here about that hire. Many here (not me) thought they'd hire Leftwich. When Eberflus was announced the Chicago twitter-vers went nuts.

Nothing "wrong" with Eberflus. It's just the Bears needed an offensive minded HC who could come in and develop Justin Fields. You had one of the top offensive minds in your building who called plays in a SB win last season. The defense wasn't the issue with the Bears last season. It was the offense.

That's a question of philosophy, some want to get a certain type of mind or a coach whose background checks boxes for who they want to build around like Fields. Others want the best candidate to lead the franchise regardless of their background.

IMHO there is no right or wrong philosophy.

He has hired an OC who is going to install what Eberflus wanted for his run game, the outside zone. And he hired a pass game coordinator/WRs coach with a terrific reputation in the league, a boat load of experience and who some think could potentially be a HC at some point.
More on Darren Rizzi, who almost became the Packers special teams coordinator two years ago but apparently management undercut LaFleur by nickel and diming the guy. He's a current candidate for the Saints HC job and a probable future NFL HC at some point but the 49ers bringing him in would be an absolute homerun if NO passed on him.



Darren Rizzi stayed on in Miami through the Tony Sparano, Joe Philbin and Adam Gase regimes. Offense or defense may have been a problem over the years for the Dolphins but not the kicking game. Under Rizzi, the Dolphins finished in the Top 10 in special teams in five of his nine seasons. But when the Dolphins fired Gase after the 2018 season, Rizzi decided it was time to move on.

The Dolphins finished fourth in the NFL in special teams in Rizzi's final season in 2018. His charges were even better in his first season with the New Orleans Saints.

The Saints finished first in the NFL special-teams rankings compiled annually by Rick Gosselin for the last 41 years.


Also he'd bring the best sidelines reactions since Harbaugh:

Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Yup, this cycle. But how many in other cycles? Chicago chose Matt freaking Eberflus over Leftwich, and nobody here in Chicago actually believes that was really a Ryan Poles hire.

What is wrong with Eberflus?

Eberflus has been a pretty hot name the last 2 cycles and it seemed like he would eventually get an opportunity as a HC. None of the fans or even local media and talking heads are sitting in on these interviews so hard to know who truly impresses and who doesn't and how each candidates went.

So Leftwich and Bieniemy need better interviewing skills? I can tell you there's a lot of mad folks here about that hire. Many here (not me) thought they'd hire Leftwich. When Eberflus was announced the Chicago twitter-vers went nuts.

Nothing "wrong" with Eberflus. It's just the Bears needed an offensive minded HC who could come in and develop Justin Fields. You had one of the top offensive minds in your building who called plays in a SB win last season. The defense wasn't the issue with the Bears last season. It was the offense.

That's a question of philosophy, some want to get a certain type of mind or a coach whose background checks boxes for who they want to build around like Fields. Others want the best candidate to lead the franchise regardless of their background.

IMHO there is no right or wrong philosophy.

He has hired an OC who is going to install what Eberflus wanted for his run game, the outside zone. And he hired a pass game coordinator/WRs coach with a terrific reputation in the league, a boat load of experience and who some think could potentially be a HC at some point.

At some point that goal post will get too heavy for people to continue moving it around.
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Yup, this cycle. But how many in other cycles? Chicago chose Matt freaking Eberflus over Leftwich, and nobody here in Chicago actually believes that was really a Ryan Poles hire.

What is wrong with Eberflus?

Eberflus has been a pretty hot name the last 2 cycles and it seemed like he would eventually get an opportunity as a HC. None of the fans or even local media and talking heads are sitting in on these interviews so hard to know who truly impresses and who doesn't and how each candidates went.

So Leftwich and Bieniemy need better interviewing skills? I can tell you there's a lot of mad folks here about that hire. Many here (not me) thought they'd hire Leftwich. When Eberflus was announced the Chicago twitter-vers went nuts.

Nothing "wrong" with Eberflus. It's just the Bears needed an offensive minded HC who could come in and develop Justin Fields. You had one of the top offensive minds in your building who called plays in a SB win last season. The defense wasn't the issue with the Bears last season. It was the offense.

That's a question of philosophy, some want to get a certain type of mind or a coach whose background checks boxes for who they want to build around like Fields. Others want the best candidate to lead the franchise regardless of their background.

IMHO there is no right or wrong philosophy.

He has hired an OC who is going to install what Eberflus wanted for his run game, the outside zone. And he hired a pass game coordinator/WRs coach with a terrific reputation in the league, a boat load of experience and who some think could potentially be a HC at some point.

At some point that goal post will get too heavy for people to continue moving it around.

Not a goalpost move at all.

We have seen teams year in year out hire a guy whose background is on one side of the ball while fans believe they need to hire someone on the other side because that's what they believe the team needs.

They didn't have to hire an offensive coach nor did they need to.
Originally posted by evil:

That means that Josh McCowns (who was coaching HS QB's last season) will get the job. Gonna say it again, the owners are avoiding Eric Bieniemy and Byron Leftwich like the plague. There isn't enough "relationship" in the world that can explain away Josh freaking McCown getting an HC job over Brian Flores, Eric Bieniemy, and Byron Leftwich. None! ZERO!!!

If Josh McCowns get that job over those 3 you'll have to come with a ton of mental gymnastics to explain that one away.
The tough part about the diversity hiring is that you can't force teams to hire someone, and if you have minority candidates dropping out of jobs they are finalists for because they dont think the situation is favorable, im not sure how it's going to change. Then you get into the incentives, like offering benefits if you hire a minority, which then would make the coaches feel like strategic moves instead of there being genuine interest. Nobody wants to get a job unless its on merit.
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

That means that Josh McCowns (who was coaching HS QB's last season) will get the job. Gonna say it again, the owners are avoiding Eric Bieniemy and Byron Leftwich like the plague. There isn't enough "relationship" in the world that can explain away Josh freaking McCown getting an HC job over Brian Flores, Eric Bieniemy, and Byron Leftwich. None! ZERO!!!

If Josh McCowns get that job over those 3 you'll have to come with a ton of mental gymnastics to explain that one away.

If you think my viewpoint on the Bears hiring Eberflus over Leftwich/EB is some form mental gymnastics then we definitely disagree. I would have felt the same had they hired Meco or Flores or Bisaccia too.

McDermott in Buffalo
Flores in Miami
Saleh in NY
Pete in Seattle
John in Baltimore
Staley in LAC

Not uncommon for a team without a FQB, or with a young QB to not hire an offensive minded HC. IMHO if you focus only on candidates of one side of the ball like say offense, you are not doing your due diligence. You could be passing over the next Bill Belichick because you chose to take a narrow minded approach to hiring your next HC.

I don't care if I hire Waslh or Belichick, my goal is to sift thru the entire field of candidates hoping to find another one of those type of coaches.

But that doesn't make my opinion right, it's just an opinion. Some owners or GMs might have a different philosophy to the hiring process, and they are entitled to that.
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