Charles Omenihu, DE signing with the Chiefs

https://www.battleredblog.com/2021/11/2/22759580/analyzing-the-charles-omenihu-trade

Originally posted by Izyniner:
https://www.battleredblog.com/2021/11/2/22759580/analyzing-the-charles-omenihu-trade

So is this the last year of his rookie contract or is he on the books for next year as well? This article makes it seem like this is his last year. I read other posters comments earlier I'm this thread saying next year is his last year… can I get some clarification please?

Thanks Izy, I had wondered about that in post above, previous page. I watched him as a Longhorn and he was the standout on a very mediocre team. And in my post noted that sometimes a change of teams can bring out the best in a talented player. In draft i thot he was a bargain but 9ers didn't see it that way. Watch now as we shift him inside, and wouldn't it be something if we didn't see a Charles Haley redux…longer arms, bull rush, strong as all get out , faster than a lot of folks think , on a DL that is either hurting, on IR, PUP or otherwise not out there. Oh, but without the Haley mental b.s.

To be concise…this was a heckuva deal, altho no one is really looking at it that way. Let's give him 3 or 4 games and i bet we got a pistol.

And for those Pooh poohers who said this was a b.s. trade, it was just a 6th, and they might also keep in mind we are not in the same universe as the Raids ….first Gruden and now Ruggs DUI and killed a man…or look at the Texans…got a potential all pro QB who hasn't played a down this yr due to a couple dozen sexual harassment suits. 49ers look GOLDEN compared to those two franchises. Keeping a perspective on things is always a good idea.

and Omenihu could really give us a huge lift…at least I'm hoping so anyway.

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by NCommand:
No coincidence it was right after another NFCW move. It's simply a deflection move. They do this every time there's a big move within the NFCW.

Yes, the timing of it just SCREAMS distract the fan base from the Rams/von news. Why else would both teams sign a player in the same week? Surely has nothing to do with a trade deadline or anything.

As for the move, I am excite.

lol right? deflection move, they needed help on the DL with Kin/Hurst/Ford all dealing with stuff. Signing CO doesn't distract this fan base about Von Miller lol.

It's funny if Von was traded here NC would be complaining about spending up for a old injury prone player that's a rental on a 3-4 team

Haha. If Von Miller got traded here, Jed would no longer be the owner of the team, Paraag would be working for the A's and Lynch would be broadcasting from his home in San Diego.

Exactly, no way they are bringing in a future HOF. It would be like bringing in Trent Williams . . . Wait

Speaking of injury prone players. Haha.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't know much about this guy but he has good size and he's still young. You never know how a player will do when he comes to a new system. Maybe he'll fit better here. Maybe he get's better coaching. All we can do is watch and hope he helps.

Originally posted by A-R-S:
NICE!
If Ford can stay in the 20% snap count range and Ebukam can not suck, I think we have the pass rush talent we need now.

That shows the scale we gotta use when you say "and Ebukam can not suck". Rofl

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
He's young, not on IR, and could be a steal.

Lol. Will go on I.R. instantly walking into the building.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
The question Is . Why?

What's the issue with this move? Late 23' pick, still young at 24 at a position that's always a need add the fact he's getting paid peanuts and doesn't take much cap

It's frustrating too see the Rams trade for Von miller, whilst we trade for depth.

Saw a Broncs fan say Von hasn't done anything since game 3, is 32 and coming off a knee or foot surgery. So although that trade does sound good and look good, because we all know VM, there's no guarantee he is what he use to be. Von may ball out the rest of the year but it's either a rental or some other pieces gotta go within a couple years. No way the Rams can continually sign top name talent and pay everyone for more than a 1-3 year stretch.

We say that about every trade that's not ours.

He's also has a 35% pressure rate which is #1. That might bode well next to Aaron Donald.

Yep could be, but it doesn't cost any extra to be optimistic about any guy coming in. IMHO I don't think this team is going to make it to the playoffs this year,and by a miracle if they do, I predict a first game exit. Not that I wouldn't love to see them kick ass from here on out but I just haven't seen the consistency that makes me think they can beat the top teams.
Von probably would have helped us on D some but is he the missing link to run the tables? No.

I'd rather keep our 3&4 for next year and pick up Omenihu who's in his prime to kick the tires and see what he has over a high priced, 32 y/o pre injured vet (who would most definitely been injured again this year, if we had signed him).

The Rams house is going up quick,and it is a nice house, but it's built on sand.

Great line…."Rams house going up quick but it's built of sand."

Nice.

There is truth to this for sure. They are certainly kicking the cap can down the road. That being said if they get a SB win out of it it's worth it right?

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't know much about this guy but he has good size and he's still young. You never know how a player will do when he comes to a new system. Maybe he'll fit better here. Maybe he get's better coaching. All we can do is watch and hope he helps.

Originally posted by A-R-S:
NICE!
If Ford can stay in the 20% snap count range and Ebukam can not suck, I think we have the pass rush talent we need now.

That shows the scale we gotta use when you say "and Ebukam can not suck". Rofl

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
He's young, not on IR, and could be a steal.

Lol. Will go on I.R. instantly walking into the building.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
The question Is . Why?

What's the issue with this move? Late 23' pick, still young at 24 at a position that's always a need add the fact he's getting paid peanuts and doesn't take much cap

It's frustrating too see the Rams trade for Von miller, whilst we trade for depth.

Saw a Broncs fan say Von hasn't done anything since game 3, is 32 and coming off a knee or foot surgery. So although that trade does sound good and look good, because we all know VM, there's no guarantee he is what he use to be. Von may ball out the rest of the year but it's either a rental or some other pieces gotta go within a couple years. No way the Rams can continually sign top name talent and pay everyone for more than a 1-3 year stretch.

We say that about every trade that's not ours.

He's also has a 35% pressure rate which is #1. That might bode well next to Aaron Donald.

Yep could be, but it doesn't cost any extra to be optimistic about any guy coming in. IMHO I don't think this team is going to make it to the playoffs this year,and by a miracle if they do, I predict a first game exit. Not that I wouldn't love to see them kick ass from here on out but I just haven't seen the consistency that makes me think they can beat the top teams.
Von probably would have helped us on D some but is he the missing link to run the tables? No.

I'd rather keep our 3&4 for next year and pick up Omenihu who's in his prime to kick the tires and see what he has over a high priced, 32 y/o pre injured vet (who would most definitely been injured again this year, if we had signed him).

The Rams house is going up quick,and it is a nice house, but it's built on sand.

It's all good. I'm mostly joking about the symbolism of the pickup. It's very much our type of target.

As to the Rams, we probably shouldn't refer to a team that's been to the playoffs nearly every year and traded for a QB that now has them trading for another player who they think might put them over the top when our house was built on a hillside after a fire and rainstorm. It was nice that first year but it's been all down hill since.

This could easily end up being 6-8 years of winning and playoff football for them and only 1 for us.

We keep playing it safe and not mortgaging our future but our future looks no different then when this regime arrived; at the moment, anyway.

How are his cover skills? Lol. Welcome to the team!!!

Originally posted by Izyniner:
https://www.battleredblog.com/2021/11/2/22759580/analyzing-the-charles-omenihu-trade

So they used him wrong. Sounds very familiar.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't know much about this guy but he has good size and he's still young. You never know how a player will do when he comes to a new system. Maybe he'll fit better here. Maybe he get's better coaching. All we can do is watch and hope he helps.

Originally posted by A-R-S:
NICE!
If Ford can stay in the 20% snap count range and Ebukam can not suck, I think we have the pass rush talent we need now.

That shows the scale we gotta use when you say "and Ebukam can not suck". Rofl

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
He's young, not on IR, and could be a steal.

Lol. Will go on I.R. instantly walking into the building.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
The question Is . Why?

What's the issue with this move? Late 23' pick, still young at 24 at a position that's always a need add the fact he's getting paid peanuts and doesn't take much cap

It's frustrating too see the Rams trade for Von miller, whilst we trade for depth.

Saw a Broncs fan say Von hasn't done anything since game 3, is 32 and coming off a knee or foot surgery. So although that trade does sound good and look good, because we all know VM, there's no guarantee he is what he use to be. Von may ball out the rest of the year but it's either a rental or some other pieces gotta go within a couple years. No way the Rams can continually sign top name talent and pay everyone for more than a 1-3 year stretch.

We say that about every trade that's not ours.

He's also has a 35% pressure rate which is #1. That might bode well next to Aaron Donald.

Yep could be, but it doesn't cost any extra to be optimistic about any guy coming in. IMHO I don't think this team is going to make it to the playoffs this year,and by a miracle if they do, I predict a first game exit. Not that I wouldn't love to see them kick ass from here on out but I just haven't seen the consistency that makes me think they can beat the top teams.
Von probably would have helped us on D some but is he the missing link to run the tables? No.

I'd rather keep our 3&4 for next year and pick up Omenihu who's in his prime to kick the tires and see what he has over a high priced, 32 y/o pre injured vet (who would most definitely been injured again this year, if we had signed him).

The Rams house is going up quick,and it is a nice house, but it's built on sand.

It's all good. I'm mostly joking about the symbolism of the pickup. It's very much our type of target.

As to the Rams, we probably shouldn't refer to a team that's been to the playoffs nearly every year and traded for a QB that now has them trading for another player who they think might put them over the top when our house was built on a hillside after a fire and rainstorm. It was nice that first year but it's been all down hill since.

This could easily end up being 6-8 years of winning and playoff football for them and only 1 for us.

We keep playing it safe and not mortgaging our future but our future looks no different then when this regime arrived; at the moment, anyway.

Yet they have been to the same number of super bowl in the same 6-8 years as the rams. Disagree with the future looks no different. They just added the potential franchise qb and there are plenty of quality players that are young. And there will be cap space after this year to fill in some new players.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I bet the rest of the GM's in the NFCW just got nervous.

Dude WTF has happened to you? I love ya bro, but c'mon, every time we do something or don't, you're one of the first to complain.

Agreed. It's getting tired.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't know much about this guy but he has good size and he's still young. You never know how a player will do when he comes to a new system. Maybe he'll fit better here. Maybe he get's better coaching. All we can do is watch and hope he helps.

Originally posted by A-R-S:
NICE!
If Ford can stay in the 20% snap count range and Ebukam can not suck, I think we have the pass rush talent we need now.

That shows the scale we gotta use when you say "and Ebukam can not suck". Rofl

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
He's young, not on IR, and could be a steal.

Lol. Will go on I.R. instantly walking into the building.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
The question Is . Why?

What's the issue with this move? Late 23' pick, still young at 24 at a position that's always a need add the fact he's getting paid peanuts and doesn't take much cap

It's frustrating too see the Rams trade for Von miller, whilst we trade for depth.

Saw a Broncs fan say Von hasn't done anything since game 3, is 32 and coming off a knee or foot surgery. So although that trade does sound good and look good, because we all know VM, there's no guarantee he is what he use to be. Von may ball out the rest of the year but it's either a rental or some other pieces gotta go within a couple years. No way the Rams can continually sign top name talent and pay everyone for more than a 1-3 year stretch.

We say that about every trade that's not ours.

He's also has a 35% pressure rate which is #1. That might bode well next to Aaron Donald.

Yep could be, but it doesn't cost any extra to be optimistic about any guy coming in. IMHO I don't think this team is going to make it to the playoffs this year,and by a miracle if they do, I predict a first game exit. Not that I wouldn't love to see them kick ass from here on out but I just haven't seen the consistency that makes me think they can beat the top teams.
Von probably would have helped us on D some but is he the missing link to run the tables? No.

I'd rather keep our 3&4 for next year and pick up Omenihu who's in his prime to kick the tires and see what he has over a high priced, 32 y/o pre injured vet (who would most definitely been injured again this year, if we had signed him).

The Rams house is going up quick,and it is a nice house, but it's built on sand.

Great line…."Rams house going up quick but it's built of sand."

Nice.

There is truth to this for sure. They are certainly kicking the cap can down the road. That being said if they get a SB win out of it it's worth it right?

I don't know because it certainly makes for an interesting case study.

The reason I say that is that the Rams, and to a lesser extent perhaps the Chiefs were supposed to be the "models" for how to build and hopefully sustain success at least for a little while in this league. In fact, it's been repeated in here as a reason to get rid of, move on from Jimmy.

Get a rookie QB who hits and then get/pay some fill in guys around him because when you have that QB on that rookie contract you have more payroll flexibility.

Not wrong I guess but it got the Rams as many Super Bowl appearances and Lombardi trophies as we have had with Jimmy and his contract. And now they already have moved on from that QB on his rookie deal to get a more established guy.

Just goes to show there is nothing, or next to nothing predictable about the NFL year to year other than the unpredictability. And there certainly isn't a secret formula that a bunch of us internet warriors have figured out to sustain long term success for our team.

Originally posted by NCommand:
We keep playing it safe and not mortgaging our future but our future looks no different then when this regime arrived; at the moment, anyway.

It's easy to forget but the year before shanny got hired we were 2-14 with Chip Kelly. Kelly now has a 14–23 record at UCLA

The future looks better. Way better,

Originally posted by AkNiners:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We keep playing it safe and not mortgaging our future but our future looks no different then when this regime arrived; at the moment, anyway.

It's easy to forget but the year before shanny got hired we were 2-14 with Chip Kelly. Kelly now has a 14–23 record at UCLA

The future looks better. Way better,

That all depends on how Lance turns out. As of right now, the team as many positions that need upgrading.

Originally posted by AkNiners:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We keep playing it safe and not mortgaging our future but our future looks no different then when this regime arrived; at the moment, anyway.

It's easy to forget but the year before shanny got hired we were 2-14 with Chip Kelly. Kelly now has a 14–23 record at UCLA

The future looks better. Way better,

We still have close to a SB roster with the best players at their position (or among them anyway)
Williams
Kittle
Warner
Bosa
Juice

and a bunch of great players like
Deebo
Greenlaw

and a lot of young talent like
Mitchell
Moore at LT/LG/RT/RG lets
hope for the latter 2 positions

We just need to get this team consistently healthy