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Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by Jcool:
This franchise is such a mess


Say what you want about Speilman but the man has had some solid drafts. Letting us drop 30 million on Jet was hilarious too.

Speilman did a good job, but, he just didn't get the job done in free agency, plus that Jet signing was a BAD one, but I think he chose us over the Jets, wish he did choose the Jets lol.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WTF, they hired Doug Pederson, did I read that right? They chose him & keep Baalke over Byron Leftwhich? I'm a fan of AEW, love Tony Khan, but Shad has to be a moron for keeping Baalke, he can't draft worth s**t, look at the 2012 class, all bad picks, I know people hard on Lynch's misses, but man, Baalke, he drafted AJ Jenkins in the 1st, LaMichael James in the 2nd, Tank Carradine in the 2nd, Joshua Garnett in the 1st(trade up, gave up a lot), gave up a lot to pick Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, Vance McDonald in the 2nd, Corey Lemonier in the 3rd, Marcus Lattimore in the 4th(never played a down for us), drafted Brandon Thomas & Marcus Martin in the 3rd, Eli Harold in the 3rd, DeAndre Smelter in the 4th over Stefon Diggs, who went in the 5th, Will Redmond & Rashard Robinson in the 3rd, and on top of that, he never spent in FA, he even said he had the go to spend, but chose not to, I mean our biggest FA signings were the likes of Zane Beadles, Torrey Smith(I liked him though, but gave a lot of money), Darnell Dockett(who never played a down, but kept his GTD money), just WOW, I mean WOW, stupid.

from that bad 2012 draft: Joe Looney went on to have quite a long career. You left off 2011 I see where in one draft he got us Aldon Smith, Kap, Culliver, KEndall Hunter, Kilgore, Mike Person and Bruce Miller.

Him getting Bowman in the 3rd in 2010 was incredible. But with that said the Taylor Mays pick was a big whiff.
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WTF, they hired Doug Pederson, did I read that right? They chose him & keep Baalke over Byron Leftwhich? I'm a fan of AEW, love Tony Khan, but Shad has to be a moron for keeping Baalke, he can't draft worth s**t, look at the 2012 class, all bad picks, I know people hard on Lynch's misses, but man, Baalke, he drafted AJ Jenkins in the 1st, LaMichael James in the 2nd, Tank Carradine in the 2nd, Joshua Garnett in the 1st(trade up, gave up a lot), gave up a lot to pick Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, Vance McDonald in the 2nd, Corey Lemonier in the 3rd, Marcus Lattimore in the 4th(never played a down for us), drafted Brandon Thomas & Marcus Martin in the 3rd, Eli Harold in the 3rd, DeAndre Smelter in the 4th over Stefon Diggs, who went in the 5th, Will Redmond & Rashard Robinson in the 3rd, and on top of that, he never spent in FA, he even said he had the go to spend, but chose not to, I mean our biggest FA signings were the likes of Zane Beadles, Torrey Smith(I liked him though, but gave a lot of money), Darnell Dockett(who never played a down, but kept his GTD money), just WOW, I mean WOW, stupid.

from that bad 2012 draft: Joe Looney went on to have quite a long career. You left off 2011 I see where in one draft he got us Aldon Smith, Kap, Culliver, KEndall Hunter, Kilgore, Mike Person and Bruce Miller.

Him getting Bowman in the 3rd in 2010 was incredible. But with that said the Taylor Mays pick was a big whiff.

Nevermind.
[ Edited by JoseCortez on Feb 4, 2022 at 7:05 PM ]
Listening to their press conference and one of the first thing that baalke said is they have a "plan" lmao that gave me ptsd
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Listening to their press conference and one of the first thing that baalke said is they have a "plan" lmao that gave me ptsd

I just can't believe he gets to do it all over again.
https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2022/1/31/22910311/jaguars-coaching-search-trent-baalke-byron-leftwich

lol!
This cat has nine lives. Like a cat he has an ability to land on his paws after some awkward falls where death (of his career) seemed imminent.
Doug at today's press conference with his new DB coach. For anyone who may not know there was a report that Rick Spielman was being hired because Baalke wanted more time to "work with players ."

[ Edited by GorefullBore on Feb 5, 2022 at 8:31 PM ]
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WTF, they hired Doug Pederson, did I read that right? They chose him & keep Baalke over Byron Leftwhich? I'm a fan of AEW, love Tony Khan, but Shad has to be a moron for keeping Baalke, he can't draft worth s**t, look at the 2012 class, all bad picks, I know people hard on Lynch's misses, but man, Baalke, he drafted AJ Jenkins in the 1st, LaMichael James in the 2nd, Tank Carradine in the 2nd, Joshua Garnett in the 1st(trade up, gave up a lot), gave up a lot to pick Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, Vance McDonald in the 2nd, Corey Lemonier in the 3rd, Marcus Lattimore in the 4th(never played a down for us), drafted Brandon Thomas & Marcus Martin in the 3rd, Eli Harold in the 3rd, DeAndre Smelter in the 4th over Stefon Diggs, who went in the 5th, Will Redmond & Rashard Robinson in the 3rd, and on top of that, he never spent in FA, he even said he had the go to spend, but chose not to, I mean our biggest FA signings were the likes of Zane Beadles, Torrey Smith(I liked him though, but gave a lot of money), Darnell Dockett(who never played a down, but kept his GTD money), just WOW, I mean WOW, stupid.

from that bad 2012 draft: Joe Looney went on to have quite a long career. You left off 2011 I see where in one draft he got us Aldon Smith, Kap, Culliver, KEndall Hunter, Kilgore, Mike Person and Bruce Miller.

Him getting Bowman in the 3rd in 2010 was incredible. But with that said the Taylor Mays pick was a big whiff.

2011 was a good draft for the most part, till Aldon went dumbass, Kilgore, & Miller we're two of favs during the Harbaugh era, I liked Hunter & Culliver, but not sure what they really did after leaving.

as for Bowman, I always wondered how much of that was Baalke or McCloughan, as Baalke took his place not that long before the draft, but yes Bowman was a great pick.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
2011 was a good draft for the most part, till Aldon went dumbass, Kilgore, & Miller we're two of favs during the Harbaugh era, I liked Hunter & Culliver, but not sure what they really did after leaving.

as for Bowman, I always wondered how much of that was Baalke or McCloughan, as Baalke took his place not that long before the draft, but yes Bowman was a great pick.

Odd how Aldon Smith is who most NFL fans call crazy but Bruce Miller beat a 70 year old man with his own cane in a brutal attack

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/ex-49er-bruce-miller-looked-like-a-complete-maniac-victim-testifies-in-assault-case/
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WTF, they hired Doug Pederson, did I read that right? They chose him & keep Baalke over Byron Leftwhich? I'm a fan of AEW, love Tony Khan, but Shad has to be a moron for keeping Baalke, he can't draft worth s**t, look at the 2012 class, all bad picks, I know people hard on Lynch's misses, but man, Baalke, he drafted AJ Jenkins in the 1st, LaMichael James in the 2nd, Tank Carradine in the 2nd, Joshua Garnett in the 1st(trade up, gave up a lot), gave up a lot to pick Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, Vance McDonald in the 2nd, Corey Lemonier in the 3rd, Marcus Lattimore in the 4th(never played a down for us), drafted Brandon Thomas & Marcus Martin in the 3rd, Eli Harold in the 3rd, DeAndre Smelter in the 4th over Stefon Diggs, who went in the 5th, Will Redmond & Rashard Robinson in the 3rd, and on top of that, he never spent in FA, he even said he had the go to spend, but chose not to, I mean our biggest FA signings were the likes of Zane Beadles, Torrey Smith(I liked him though, but gave a lot of money), Darnell Dockett(who never played a down, but kept his GTD money), just WOW, I mean WOW, stupid.

from that bad 2012 draft: Joe Looney went on to have quite a long career. You left off 2011 I see where in one draft he got us Aldon Smith, Kap, Culliver, KEndall Hunter, Kilgore, Mike Person and Bruce Miller.

Him getting Bowman in the 3rd in 2010 was incredible. But with that said the Taylor Mays pick was a big whiff.

2011 was a good draft for the most part, till Aldon went dumbass, Kilgore, & Miller we're two of favs during the Harbaugh era, I liked Hunter & Culliver, but not sure what they really did after leaving.

as for Bowman, I always wondered how much of that was Baalke or McCloughan, as Baalke took his place not that long before the draft, but yes Bowman was a great pick.

Culliver spent a year with Washington, while Hunter tried to catch on with New Orleans. Both were out of the league by year four .

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CullCh00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HuntKe00.htm
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
2011 was a good draft for the most part, till Aldon went dumbass, Kilgore, & Miller we're two of favs during the Harbaugh era, I liked Hunter & Culliver, but not sure what they really did after leaving.

as for Bowman, I always wondered how much of that was Baalke or McCloughan, as Baalke took his place not that long before the draft, but yes Bowman was a great pick.

Odd how Aldon Smith is who most NFL fans call crazy but Bruce Miller beat a 70 year old man with his own cane in a brutal attack

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/ex-49er-bruce-miller-looked-like-a-complete-maniac-victim-testifies-in-assault-case/

Yet Bruce Miller still got a shot in Jacksonville in 2020 .

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MillBr02.htm
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WTF, they hired Doug Pederson, did I read that right? They chose him & keep Baalke over Byron Leftwhich? I'm a fan of AEW, love Tony Khan, but Shad has to be a moron for keeping Baalke, he can't draft worth s**t, look at the 2012 class, all bad picks, I know people hard on Lynch's misses, but man, Baalke, he drafted AJ Jenkins in the 1st, LaMichael James in the 2nd, Tank Carradine in the 2nd, Joshua Garnett in the 1st(trade up, gave up a lot), gave up a lot to pick Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd, Vance McDonald in the 2nd, Corey Lemonier in the 3rd, Marcus Lattimore in the 4th(never played a down for us), drafted Brandon Thomas & Marcus Martin in the 3rd, Eli Harold in the 3rd, DeAndre Smelter in the 4th over Stefon Diggs, who went in the 5th, Will Redmond & Rashard Robinson in the 3rd, and on top of that, he never spent in FA, he even said he had the go to spend, but chose not to, I mean our biggest FA signings were the likes of Zane Beadles, Torrey Smith(I liked him though, but gave a lot of money), Darnell Dockett(who never played a down, but kept his GTD money), just WOW, I mean WOW, stupid.

from that bad 2012 draft: Joe Looney went on to have quite a long career. You left off 2011 I see where in one draft he got us Aldon Smith, Kap, Culliver, KEndall Hunter, Kilgore, Mike Person and Bruce Miller.

Him getting Bowman in the 3rd in 2010 was incredible. But with that said the Taylor Mays pick was a big whiff.

I can't believe the name escapes me, Schneider? But the Seahawks had great drafts in the beginning. So, yes, I'll give it to Trent for 2010 and 2011. But Joe Looney having a long career means diddly squat. That 2012 draft was all-time bad. Getting a guy who was a starter for a couple of seasons doesn't change that. Baalke destroyed the team that was set up to win.
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