Tom Brady, QB retires again

Trading Lance makes no sense.

Originally posted by English:
Trading Lance makes no sense.

Succinct.

Can't we just see what lance has got for one year

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Why would they trade Lance in this scenario as opposed to just having him sit for another year? They can be genuinely sold on Lance but if you have a Superbowl caliber roster and Brady wanted to come out of retirement and play for them, you absolutely have to consider it.

This.

I mean what would you do???

I'm not trading Jimmy got Brady's rights….stupid.

if TB releases Brady then I'm interested

edit: TB won't label him retired or release him until June 1st for cap reasons.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by English:
Trading Lance makes no sense.

Succinct.

You surely don't need an explanation?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by English:
Trading Lance makes no sense.

Succinct.

You surely don't need an explanation?

Nope. I agree.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by English:
Trading Lance makes no sense.

Succinct.

You surely don't need an explanation?

Nope. I agree.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm not trading Jimmy got Brady's rights….stupid.

if TB releases Brady then I'm interested

edit: TB won't label him retired or release him until June 1st for cap reasons.

I don't think he comes back, but if he does, it's definitely not this year.

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
Can't we just see what lance has got for one year

Well after this year, who knows what position our team will be in. We are retaining our core players and superstars from a team that got to the NFC championship with Jimmy Garappolo. We are probably the most attractive we will ever be to Brady right now. When the best QB in history wants to play for you to win more SBs, you dont wait another year (at least you dont do it twice haha). Trey Lance will benefit greatly from sitting behind Brady for another year or two. This would do wonders for his career.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm not trading Jimmy got Brady's rights….stupid.

if TB releases Brady then I'm interested

edit: TB won't label him retired or release him until June 1st for cap reasons.

I don't think he comes back, but if he does, it's definitely not this year.

If he wants to play for the 49ers this is his last possible opportunity (barring injuries).
As much as I think that Brady could win a SB with the 9ers, if Lance starts this year he is the starter moving forward.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by English:
Brady and Gronk, salary cap?

Surely the cream of the draft picks would be going to Tampa. They are not going to just waive his contract. I really have grave doubts about the whole thing but it seems highly unlikely anyway.

Brady's reportedly worth $475m, and has a history of taking less than his market value to keep a strong team around him. That's how he's won so many Super Bowls. Let's do it on our terms. What's he want more, and handfull more millions, or an 8th Lombardi, with a third team? We need Samual, Bosa, and others. If neither Tampa nor Tommy want to look like jerks, offer Tom $1m, Tampa gets Jimmy, no more, (Brady's retired, remember?) take it or leave it, and see where the chips fall. If not, if Lance with Kyle looks like Herbert, we've still got a shot.

If we trade for Brady, which wont happen until June 1st (although there would be a gentleman's agreement way before), he would only cost $12M against the cap. That is super reasonable

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
So if Brady comes out of retirement and comes to the Niners, they could trade Jimmy and Lance. Maybe they get a second for Jimmy and 2 firsts for Lance. Then they draft Brady's replacement next season which should be a pretty good QB draft. I doubt any of this happens but it's a possible scenario if Brady wants to play here and if the Niners aren't all in with Lance.

Not going to trade Lance. The objective would be to trade Jimmy to them, therefore keeping them a contender in the division. We would get Brady on a potential 1-2 year loan to win a SB, while Trey sits behind the GOAT and learns. It would make us automatic SB favorites and give this loaded roster a chance to win number 6, and allow us to build for the future with Trey…

I'm not suggesting that tey would do any of this. First of all, I think the Bradsy to SF stuff is something to talk about during a week when nothing is happening. I believe the Bucs still own his rights so they would need to get something for him.

Second, I don't want a QB who'll be 46 next year holding back my QB of the future. What's Trey going to learn in one season from Bradsy. He's an entirely different type of QB. If they did get Brady that's another year sitting instead of playing.

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by English:
Brady and Gronk, salary cap?

Surely the cream of the draft picks would be going to Tampa. They are not going to just waive his contract. I really have grave doubts about the whole thing but it seems highly unlikely anyway.

Brady's reportedly worth $475m, and has a history of taking less than his market e to keep a strong team around him. That's how he's won so many Super Bowls. Let's do it on our terms. What's he want more, and handfull more millions, or an 8th Lombardi, with a third team? We need Samual, Bosa, and others. If neither Tampa nor Tommy want to look like jerks, offer Tom $1m, Tampa gets Jimmy, no more, (Brady's retired, remember?) take it or leave it, and see where the chips fall. If not, if Lance with Kyle looks like Herbert, we've still got a shot.

If we trade for Brady, which wont happen until June 1st (although there would be a gentleman's agreement way before), he would only cost $12M against the cap. That is super reasonable

I don't think reasonable in isolation is the point. Bosa's going to cost us $30m, Deebo $22m. Jimmy saves us $27m, which means we're starting off $25m in the hole before we even look at anyone else. Those contracts are for the long term competitiveness of the team to compete every year. The question is do we throw that away for a one year shot or not. Brady's 45 in August. I know he's been healthy, but... IMO, the way to win Super Bowls is to get a shot every year, like we did in the 80's, because in the NFL, sh!t happens.

Brady can have a good shot at winning 8 Lombardi's, and do it with 3 different teams. If he wants that, fine. If he wants another $11m on top of his $475m at the cost of our long term prospects, I'm for seeing if Kyle can make things easy for Lance. Either way, Lance is our future, and he's gonna need a good team around him.