Tom Brady, QB retires again

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

Thanks for proving the point.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

Thanks for proving the point.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

Thanks for proving the point.

Yea I'm sure the rams are not regretting running their team like madden right now lol

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

They aren't the first team to do this in post cap era, but it's not done too often though bc it's so risky. Winning a SB in the NFL is really hard, you can have the best team on paper and still lose. I definitely don't see this as a the new blueprint.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

Thanks for proving the point.

Yea I'm sure the rams are not regretting running their team like madden right now lol

Regretting? For what? For winning the Super Bowl?! LOL.

They could go into a full rebuild for all I care, they have achieved what they set out to do and that is to win the Super Bowl. You got to tip your cap. We were all laughing at them then, who is laughing now?

You could go to the NFC Championship game 10 times in a row and no one would give a toss about it.

I will say it again. This is the reality and cruelty of NFL football. Ultimately, we are all judged by winning Super Bowls and nothing else.

Let's be honest here, shall we? Had Shanahan said yes to Tommy back in 2020, we would have won a Super Bowl by now.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

They aren't the first team to do this in post cap era, but it's not done too often though bc it's so risky. Winning a SB in the NFL is really hard, you can have the best team on paper and still lose. I definitely don't see this as a the new blueprint.

There are always risks in anything you do. You don't think drafting a QB could be risky too? The bust rate is so high, do you want me to list out the number of recent QB busts? Not in any particular order, Winston, Mariota, Rosen, Darnold, Goff, Wentz, etc.

I don't know whether the Rams' approach is a "blueprint" per se, however at the very least, it has proven it works.

Bottom line is this, we need to win NOW. And if Tommy is ready and willing, we have to sign him plain and simple, Shanahan cannot afford to double-down on his mistake.

Sometimes I think that some guys here don´t know that we haven´t won a freaking ring in 27 years. Heck there are Niner fans here that are younger than that.

Seachickens once, Eagles once, Bucs twice, Ravens twice and one over us, Rams twice, Patriots 6 times, Broncos 3 times, Chiefs over us, Saints once.

Yeah, all those teams had 0 rings 27 years ago while we are still trying to get #6.

I want to win a freaking ring no matter what we have to do and if that means bringing 78-year old Brady for one season I want us to do it.

NFL is about winning rings or you will be forgotten.

Originally posted by evil:
We aren't in year 6 of our rebuild though. We are rebuilt, now it's about tooling and retooling the roster.

McVay has been a HC as long as Kyle has. But one big difference in Kyle had to spend his first 2 years rebuilding his roster completely. McVay did not, the roster was already built and since they have tooled and retooled thru trades and FA because Snead can't draft well enough.

Kyle and John don't want to win A Superbowl, they want to build as dynasty and win multiple Superbowls. By rolling with Trey and using you financial capital and draft capital to build around him, it gets you closer to that reality of trying to build that dynasty. By rolling with Brady you have less available to build around Tom and less available to you as you move forward beyond next season because you couldn't use those resources to retool the roster, you had to use them to acquire and pay Tom.

Let's have them win one before we start talking about dynasties and multiple Superbowls.

If we cared about ammo and winning we could have spent the 3 first round picks we used on lance to give Jimmy more ammo and possibly won with him.

We could have had von Miller and obj and more with those picks.

Lance is not a proven commodity. Those 3 first round picks could be the biggest reach in history if he busts. The Brady investment is minimal when we basically will play here for peanuts.

It's nothing compared to what we wasted on kwon Alexander or dee Ford, even compared to what we are getting out of Fred Warner and his contract.

The whole mcvay not having to rebuild thing vs shanny is way overblown. He had Goff and Gurley whereas shanahan chose to role with hoyer and Hyde. Defensively we were just as good as them if not better, we still had Buckner, armstead, Thomas, reid, ward, and spoon.

None of either teams wrs are still on either team. That's just a cop out because the truth is mcvay has done better and had the same amount of time.

That's not a slight on Kyle it's just the truth.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

They aren't the first team to do this in post cap era, but it's not done too often though bc it's so risky. Winning a SB in the NFL is really hard, you can have the best team on paper and still lose. I definitely don't see this as a the new blueprint.

There are always risks in anything you do. You don't think drafting a QB could be risky too? The bust rate is so high, do you want me to list out the number of recent QB busts? Not in any particular order, Winston, Mariota, Rosen, Darnold, Goff, Wentz, etc.

I don't know whether the Rams' approach is a "blueprint" per se, however at the very least, it has proven it works.

Bottom line is this, we need to win NOW. And if Tommy is ready and willing, we have to sign him plain and simple, Shanahan cannot afford to double-down on his mistake.

I don't think there is any way in hell that Tom Brady plays for the 49ers. Either A: it'd take a season+ for him to learn the offense which means at least 3 years of Trey on the bench and that's not likely considering the investment, or B: Kyle changes his offense to suit Tom, which retards Treys development because the offense changed to suit Tom is in meetings and the QB room and not what Kyle wants Trey learning, considering the investment.

Hate to say it but Trey Lance's presence on the roster and the investment into acquiring him prevents us from getting TB or anyone else, imo.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

Thanks for proving the point.

Yea I'm sure the rams are not regretting running their team like madden right now lol

Regretting? For what? For winning the Super Bowl?! LOL.

They could go into a full rebuild for all I care, they have achieved what they set out to do and that is to win the Super Bowl. You got to tip your cap. We were all laughing at them then, who is laughing now?

You could go to the NFC Championship game 10 times in a row and no one would give a toss about it.

I will say it again. This is the reality and cruelty of NFL football. Ultimately, we are all judged by winning Super Bowls and nothing else.

Let's be honest here, shall we? Had Shanahan said yes to Tommy back in 2020, we would have won a Super Bowl by now.

Lol in 2020 it would have made sense.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Many people on the site thinks the NFL is run like Madden

You know who runs a team like Madden? The Rams.

They won another Lombardi before us.

Thanks for proving the point.

Yea I'm sure the rams are not regretting running their team like madden right now lol

Regretting? For what? For winning the Super Bowl?! LOL.

They could go into a full rebuild for all I care, they have achieved what they set out to do and that is to win the Super Bowl. You got to tip your cap. We were all laughing at them then, who is laughing now?

You could go to the NFC Championship game 10 times in a row and no one would give a toss about it.

I will say it again. This is the reality and cruelty of NFL football. Ultimately, we are all judged by winning Super Bowls and nothing else.

Let's be honest here, shall we? Had Shanahan said yes to Tommy back in 2020, we would have won a Super Bowl by now.

No truer words can be said

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
I think it's more about the pieces around lance than lance himself. Does Brady give you a better chance when you have a bunch of looming contracts or not? I think he does.

I do not think it's an insult to trey when you have Brady not letting him start.

It's a one year rental but he could choose to comeback or not. He could absolutely fall off a cliff also. He's a lot more of a proven commodity than Trey though and if your goal is to win Superbowls the he would appear to give you a better chance than lance.

Maybe it's all in the great master rebuilding plan but we're going into year 6 of our supposed rebuild. I do not think there are many head coaches that come into an interview and say I've got a 7 year plan to win us a Superbowl.

of course brady gives them a better chance this yr. He's Tom Brady. I would think he needs some better pass-pro then Compton/Brunskill and if Tomlinson leaves

I do think it's an insult regardless of who the QB is...SF just spent 3 1sts and a 3rd to get this kid, you sat him for a yr and bring in another QB... yes it's Brady BUT its also saying you don't think you can win with him. Kid will have not had a off season as the starter or played a legit full season of football since 2019. Let's stop thinking that's how you get better at playing football. There's not "he's not ready" stuff, he's never gonna be ready until he get's to play through everything.

People need to realize SF has to play this kid, that was the plan and always has been.

What do you mean yr 6 of a rebuild? SF has been to a SB and a NFCC two of the past three yrs. They have a damn good roster. There is no "rebuild" at this point... SF are contenders (and have been when they had a startable QB) and they clearly still think they can be with Lance (hence going all in on him). Time for the fans to accept that and understand there is a process. If it's about the pieces and not lance, then go get some more pieces and let the kid develop into the FQB he was chosen to be.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Let's be honest here, shall we? Had Shanahan said yes to Tommy back in 2020, we would have won a Super Bowl by now.

Would we have? They had something like $100M on IR throughout the season....damn near everyone was hurt at some point and SF a ton of their "home games" in AZ.

I'm sorry Brady is the GOAT but the talent level in 2020 was NOT close to Tampa's

The Athletic's Mike Sando said the 49ers would be a good fit for Tom Brady should he come out of retirements and play in 2022.

"Perhaps he is finished, but if there is one bucket-list item for him remaining, it's probably playing for the team he always wanted to play for but never did," Sando said. "His never-say-never comment could indicate a willingness to play only if the situation is absolutely perfect. I don't think Tampa was that situation any longer." Sando's assessment comes on the heels of reports that the Bucs are holding out hope that Brady, 44, will undo his brief retirement and play in 2022. The Bucs, facing departures of several key players, are not nearly the attractive spot that they were in 2020 and 2021. The Niners, meanwhile, sport one of the league's most efficient offenses, with George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk, and an excellent running game awaiting a decent quarterback to take charge. With Jimmy Garoppolo at the helm, the 49ers had the league's sixth highest expected points added (EPA) per play. Meanwhile, Brady, who would be entering his age-45 season, is remarkably at the height of his powers.

If we had Brady this year we smoke the Rams by double digits. I think it's clearly evident our roster is superior. We all know our set back is Jimmy.

You think Brady is losing a 10 point lead to Pat Stafford with our defense backing him? On what planet?

I think so poorly of Jimmy after his performance in that game I think Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins wins us that game and the SB.

So do I want Brady if it means pushing Lance back another year. Absolutely! If anything happens to be Brady next year we have the best back up in the league!