Brian Flores files discrimination lawsuit against Giants, Dolphins and the NFL.

Originally posted by RDB4216:
Flores must have gone to the Colin Kaepernick School Of Stupid. Even played the "this lawsuit may risk my coaching career" card, just like Kap. The Giants held a second interview with Leslie Frazier. If they were just trying to fulfill the requirements of the Rooney Rule, there would have been no point in a second interview. Shocking that a head coach with a losing record and no playoff appearances wasn't the first choice! Cover up mediocrity with racist allegations - it is the Kaepernick way!

Small problem dog, he was 24-25 in Miami WITHOUT a FQB. That's not exactly mediocrity.

Without a FQB, it's going to be tough to win many games.

Originally posted by evil:
Small problem dog, he was 24-25 in Miami WITHOUT a FQB. That's not exactly mediocrity.

Without a FQB, it's going to be tough to win many games.

I think the bigger issue for him is how many staff members he burned through. He fired his original OL coach in his first year before they even got through the first week of training camp. I think its erratic behavior like that which could give teams pause.

I think the proper penalty for this is the Dolphins having to give us back our draft picks.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by evil:
Small problem dog, he was 24-25 in Miami WITHOUT a FQB. That's not exactly mediocrity.

Without a FQB, it's going to be tough to win many games.

I think the bigger issue for him is how many staff members he burned through. He fired his original OL coach in his first year before they even got through the first week of training camp. I think its erratic behavior like that which could give teams pause.

Houston is still very much in play for him. But that erratic behavior you mentioned can also give pause to potential assistant coaches when he tries to build a staff.

It seems to me that Flores is being poorly advised. There is a difference between what you think or feel and what you can prove in a court of law. I think he was going to get another coaching opportunity eventually. Now I don't see anyone hiring him again. Who is going to hire a guy to run a billion-dollar company, when there is a good chance he is going to sue you in the end. Unless there is some evidence of racism we just don't have yet then I am not sure where the proof of his claim of racism is. Teams wasting your time in the interview process because they already plan on hiring someone else is not going to win you a discrimination lawsuit. If that was the case we would all be millionaires because the majority of people get their time wasted going through a job interview process. As for what happened in Miami. I thought they were stupid for firing him but based on this dumb lawsuit, maybe it was the right move. As for his Job performance in Miami. He was a coach for three years and didn't make the playoffs. Coaches who have done far better have been fired. Like Harbaugh for instance. Maybe they haven't released the evidence that shows racism but so far I am not seeing anything that would come close to winning in court. The funny thing is it sounds like the whole case is based on the Rooney rule which is designed to get more minority candidates hired. The NFL has so many lawyers though. I am pretty sure they know they are covered by law for what the Rooney rule is and does.

The racism thing may not stand up and may get the initial headlines, but the claim that Ross tried to get him to lose games (with 6 figure bonuses!) and the supposed tampering is the real meat here, IMO.

Lmao filing a lawsuit because you were fired and can't get a job.
Jim Harbaugh got ran out of town from a team who stunk for ten years before him after having a sb appearance and 3 nfc title games in 4 years.

Give us back our first round pick. K thanx

Originally posted by JustinMT:


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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by pdfortune:
If they ever wanted a great example of how the Rooney Rule is treated like a joke it is Mike McCarthy. He had one year as the 49er OC last ranked offense in 2005. The offense was so bad some considered it one of the worst in decades, and McCarthy still got the Packers job. I can't believe he got an interview for the Packers job. No way would a black guy gets an interview with a resume like McCarthy had in 2005.

He got the job primarily because they wanted someone that could work with a young QB. McCarthy hadn't just been OC with the 49ers, he had been OC with the Saints and had worked with Aaron Brooks as well.

The fastest way to a HC job in the NFL has always been to be a QB aficionado. Every team wants a QB whisperer of their own and anyone that has experience working with them pretty much always has a leg up. Josh Allen balling out is the only reason Daboll has a HC job. He was dismal as OC in KC previously.

Ehh....Aaron Brooks flashed so briefly you could've missed it. That original point still stands. A black OC isn't getting interview sniffs after leading offenses that bad.

I'd throw Joe Judge in there- former Patriots receivers coach. I'm against hiring position coaches in general for HC jobs, but that guy's group in New England was the actual weakness in New England. Yet he's interviewed and hired. I thought Zac Taylor had a light resume. Fortunately for him the Bengals were bad enough in 2019 to draft Joe Burrow.

Adam Gase anyone? No real success in the Miami tenure, but hired immediately. We have Josh McCown getting interviews. How accomplished is he?

With the original poster's point about the Rooney Rule- it is a joke. In the spirit of it, I suppose the idea was to get some faces in front of these owners and thinking that maybe they can impress in an interview and that will open the door. I don't see it. And I'm not claiming there are so many glowing black candidates. Its more of, look at the quality of who is hired. Some of this stuff is baffling.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by evil:
Small problem dog, he was 24-25 in Miami WITHOUT a FQB. That's not exactly mediocrity.

Without a FQB, it's going to be tough to win many games.

I think the bigger issue for him is how many staff members he burned through. He fired his original OL coach in his first year before they even got through the first week of training camp. I think its erratic behavior like that which could give teams pause.

Houston is still very much in play for him. But that erratic behavior you mentioned can also give pause to potential assistant coaches when he tries to build a staff.

I think Flores has made his decision. No way you do this thinking you will coach again.

As for firing a coach that quick out the gate- well depends on the cause. Strange things can happen- remember Urban Meyer's early hire?

I'm interested in seeing what comes out on Miami. 100k per game to lose? Yeah, this is gonna be good.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Sorry not going back thru the pages. You read about Bill right? Congrats to wrong coach? Ooops and before Flores even interviewed. I admit the Bill mistake alone might get him millions..

https://www.yahoo.com/news/england-patriots-coach-bill-belichick-010309475.html

Was obviously done on purpose to screw the Giants. He still has a grudge. He just played the "Im just a confused old man fumbling with technology" card.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by evil:
Small problem dog, he was 24-25 in Miami WITHOUT a FQB. That's not exactly mediocrity.

Without a FQB, it's going to be tough to win many games.

I think the bigger issue for him is how many staff members he burned through. He fired his original OL coach in his first year before they even got through the first week of training camp. I think its erratic behavior like that which could give teams pause.

Houston is still very much in play for him. But that erratic behavior you mentioned can also give pause to potential assistant coaches when he tries to build a staff.

I think Flores has made his decision. No way you do this thinking you will coach again.

As for firing a coach that quick out the gate- well depends on the cause. Strange things can happen- remember Urban Meyer's early hire?

I'm interested in seeing what comes out on Miami. 100k per game to lose? Yeah, this is gonna be good.

FWIW he had an in person interview in Houston yesterday after reportedly having already conducted a zoom interview with them previously. He is familiar with Caserio from New England, who could be his in with ownership if they are on the fence with this news.

The other known candidates that have interviewed :

Josh McCown
Jonathan Ganon (Eagles DC)
Joe Lombardi (Chargers OC)
Hines Ward
Kevin O'Connell (Rams OC)

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by evil:
Small problem dog, he was 24-25 in Miami WITHOUT a FQB. That's not exactly mediocrity.

Without a FQB, it's going to be tough to win many games.

I think the bigger issue for him is how many staff members he burned through. He fired his original OL coach in his first year before they even got through the first week of training camp. I think its erratic behavior like that which could give teams pause.

Houston is still very much in play for him. But that erratic behavior you mentioned can also give pause to potential assistant coaches when he tries to build a staff.

I think Flores has made his decision. No way you do this thinking you will coach again.

As for firing a coach that quick out the gate- well depends on the cause. Strange things can happen- remember Urban Meyer's early hire?

I'm interested in seeing what comes out on Miami. 100k per game to lose? Yeah, this is gonna be good.

FWIW he had an in person interview in Houston yesterday after reportedly having already conducted a zoom interview with them previously. He is familiar with Caserio from New England, who could be his in with ownership if they are on the fence with this news.

The other known candidates that have interviewed :

Josh McCown
Jonathan Ganon (Eagles DC)
Joe Lombardi (Chargers OC)
Hines Ward
Kevin O'Connell (Rams OC)

Can he be a team/NFL employee while going through the lawsuit?

It has nothing to do with past success and everything to do with high up executive and including Bill B were fed information of an imminent hire before all interviews complete. So yes, this rule is nonsense. I'm all for minority hires but a team should be able to hire anyone they want.

If Bill knew then the interview is fraud. Think what the guy went thru to prepare the best he could. That's the part that sucks. Not so much who you hire but the need to string guys along for a rule.

But really the Bill accident will prove costly.