Jon Embree Thread

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyles run heavy offense does play a big part in that as well.

True. I don't know man maybe I'm just still pissed off from the playoffs. I just want something done to get the ball in Kittles hands more like how Deebo was made a RB to accomplish that. Kittle is too much of a stud to be wasted pass blocking all the time. Just my opinion

Originally posted by Jcool:
Kittle had 850 yards receiving with 3 games to play & seemed like a lock for 1000 yards. In those 3 games he had 8 receptions for 60 yards. I don't care what the reason is... That CANNOT happen.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Was any reason given for the team asking him to take a 60% pay cut, assuming that was true. The team isn't cheap. They pay coaches and front office people well. There must be a reason they would ask him and not other coaches to take a cut. Or did they ask others as well.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Was any reason given for the team asking him to take a 60% pay cut, assuming that was true. The team isn't cheap. They pay coaches and front office people well. There must be a reason they would ask him and not other coaches to take a cut. Or did they ask others as well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Kittle had 850 yards receiving with 3 games to play & seemed like a lock for 1000 yards. In those 3 games he had 8 receptions for 60 yards. I don't care what the reason is... That CANNOT happen.

Go ask the QB why he wasn't throwing him the ball

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Kittle had 850 yards receiving with 3 games to play & seemed like a lock for 1000 yards. In those 3 games he had 8 receptions for 60 yards. I don't care what the reason is... That CANNOT happen.

Go ask the QB why he wasn't throwing him the ball

Id rather ask the coach why.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyles run heavy offense does play a big part in that as well.

True. I don't know man maybe I'm just still pissed off from the playoffs. I just want something done to get the ball in Kittles hands more like how Deebo was made a RB to accomplish that. Kittle is too much of a stud to be wasted pass blocking all the time. Just my opinion

I don't think you'll find one person who doesn't want Kittle to get as many targets as Kelce. I want to see him have another Bronco game with 1 additional yard. But I don't think its Kyle deliberately stopping him. It's our weak pass protection and Kittle being such an amazing teammate he did help a lot in blocking. And Kyle understood to win games he would have to sacrifice one of his best weapons in the passing game to help protect the QB.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

I honestly don't think this has anything to do with racism. I'm with you, I think they wanna go a different direction in terms of Assist. HC. I've been calling for a strong Assist. HC for some time so that Shanny can concentrate more on the offence. I've long held that Shanny, while a brilliant offensive mind, play caller and play designer, isn't a complete HC. I really think Shanny should hire a respected guy with HC experience to be the Assist. HC.

Assistant HC is a largely meaningless title. Its usually given to an experienced assistant as an honorarium but its like saying assistant to the regional manager. It has zero reflection on the HC's overall responsibilities.

I think this is entirely about moving in a different direction in terms of coaching the TE's.

There might be a coach out there who is suddenly available that Shanahan thinks could be an upgrade or he just felt that Embree wasn't cutting the mustard, eitherway its his prerogative to move on.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
BINGO!!!! The 14th most routes this year among TEs is absolutely pathetic and a waste of his talent IMO. If people think that's "plenty" I wholeheartedly disagree.

Kittle having to constantly block DEs and LBs took a toll on him physically. Yesterday he said he had been hurting since game 1 this year. I have to believe that running more routes and throwing his body at fewer 300 pounders is going to extend his career. Bring in a new OL coach who can teach McGlinchey how to pass block and...problem solved.

SF was damn near last in passing attempts this yr, so I wouldn't expect him to have as many route snaps as guys like Kelce and Pitts.

McG actually graded out just fine as a pass-blocker this yr. He wasn't elite but 70 overall is pretty good. How he recovers from his injury will be the issue. Our RG issue is the problem more than anything.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Was any reason given for the team asking him to take a 60% pay cut, assuming that was true. The team isn't cheap. They pay coaches and front office people well. There must be a reason they would ask him and not other coaches to take a cut. Or did they ask others as well.

If the paycut part is true then my guess would be that they were stripping him of his assistant head coach designation or asking him to take a lesser role on the coaching staff. So he was getting demoted and being offered lesser pay as a result.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
BINGO!!!! The 14th most routes this year among TEs is absolutely pathetic and a waste of his talent IMO. If people think that's "plenty" I wholeheartedly disagree.

Kittle having to constantly block DEs and LBs took a toll on him physically. Yesterday he said he had been hurting since game 1 this year. I have to believe that running more routes and throwing his body at fewer 300 pounders is going to extend his career. Bring in a new OL coach who can teach McGlinchey how to pass block and...problem solved.

Originally posted by E-49er:
Matt Barrows confirming on Twitter that TE/Asst HC Jon Embree will not return. Solomon Wilcots on Twitter said Niners wanted to cut his salary by 60% . Niners need a new TE coach now.

Originally posted by FaTaL:
60% is a joke

Jon Embree, the 49ers' tight ends coach and assistant head coach whom George Kittle has often credited for his development from a late-round pick to first-team All-Pro, will not return to the team next season.

Embree, 56, who was on a one-year contract in 2021, declined to accept a significant pay cut to come back for a sixth season, a source said.

Embree joined the 49ers shortly after head coach Kyle Shanahan was hired in 2017. He previously worked with Shanahan, then an offensive coordinator, with Washington in 2010. The 13-year NFL veteran was also the head coach at Colorado in 2010-11.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/49ers/article/49ers-tight-ends-coach-Jon-Embree-opts-not-to-16826837.php