Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Would think it has less to do with any kind of confidence in Jones, and more to do with not liking the available prospects. They would have had to either take the 4th QB drafted or trade a huge amount of assets to get up and get one of the top 3 guys… which may not even have been an option to them.
Overdrafting at the position is how they got Jones in the first place.
I both agree and disagree. Great QB's can be found in the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh rounds. Franchise changing QB's can be found in every round. Yes, it's true that some were first round picks. It's also true that others were drafted in the third, fifth and seventh rounds. With Jones, however, they should have known by the end of the second or third year that he just was not going to be "that guy." Some coaches don't even need that kind of time. If a QB doesn't do anything to merit a second season, they don't get it.
You don't need to draft a QB in the first round. It's the biggest fallacy in all of football. The Giants did not "overdraft" to get Jones. They just missed. It happens. You admit the mistake and move on. There's no need to waste five years of time.
Yet the Giants are going to stick with Jones. It will cost Daboll the one true shot he had to become a successful HC. At least in New York.
They just signed him last season to a s**t load of guaranteed money...So what do you then? It's hard going to the owner and telling him "we f**ked up, now we want to bench him and let him college 100+ million before we can cut him" Most owners are gonna tell his GM / HC to f**k off.
As far as not drafting OL for him, a lot of teams aren't going to invest hard into the OL when the QB isn't worth it. If Jones has a good OL, it's not like all of sudden he's going to be throwing for 30-40 TDs and putting up great overall #s. You save the OL picks / signings when you have that long term franchise QB locked up.