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Zachary
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
OK i guess the question if we are talking about DT's or at least a 3 down lineman... Warren Sapp, Aaron Donald, Vince Wilfork, Hiloti Ngata, JJ Watt... Maybe its because the niners always shut him down but for interior D line I would take at least Sapp and Wilfork over Donald. In big moments, Donald just doesnt take over a game. Von Miller can be asleep all year but at least wakes up for the playoffs.
Maybe its also because we have the division of jitterbug QBs along with Shanny being able to shut him down through scheme with backup linemen. I dont see him batting down passes like Watt did when he gets stuffed but still was a league leader in sacks. I'd take Sapp, Wilfork or Watt over him and wouldnt even bat an eye.
He literally won the Super Bowl for the Rams at the biggest moment. You have 49er games bias. We have small, athletic guards, and that's the kryptonite for small, athletic DTs. But we still double and triple team him, and control him through our run game and quick passes. Other teams do not have the personnel match we do. He didn't get those defensive MVPs by being shut down all the time.
Didn't he also make the play to end the game against us too? Lol
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49erFaithful6
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There is some sort of rankings going on ESPN best player all time each position.. They lost me when they had Gronk as the GOAT TE.. over Tony Gonzalez..
classic example of upper east coast bias
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lamontb
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There is some sort of rankings going on ESPN best player all time each position.. They lost me when they had Gronk as the GOAT TE.. over Tony Gonzalez..
classic example of upper east coast bias
I'd take Gronk and Shannon Sharpe over Tony
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Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There is some sort of rankings going on ESPN best player all time each position.. They lost me when they had Gronk as the GOAT TE.. over Tony Gonzalez..
classic example of upper east coast bias
I'd take Gronk and Shannon Sharpe over Tony
Gronk by a mile. Lol
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49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Gronk by a mile. Lol
Gronk? Look I love Gronk but he was injured 50% of the time. You could double his career receptions, and he would still be looking up at Gonzalez. It's not even close.
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random49er
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There is some sort of rankings going on ESPN best player all time each position.. They lost me when they had Gronk as the GOAT TE.. over Tony Gonzalez..
classic example of upper east coast bias
I'd take Gronk and Shannon Sharpe over Tony
Gronk by a mile. Lol
Naah
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random49er
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well until the NFC Championship we've been handling him with a tier three guard.
Great? Sure. Hall of Fame? Yeah. GOAT? Not quite. Lawrence Taylor.
+1
[ Edited by random49er on Aug 4, 2022 at 8:31 AM ]
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49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well until the NFC Championship we've been handling him with a tier three guard.
Great? Sure. Hall of Fame? Yeah. GOAT? Not quite. Lawrence Taylor.
+1
There it is. #RoidRage
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Jubwub88
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Haley and taylor sanders. Very good yes but wherever haley went super bowls followed.
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dmax
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LT...REGGIE WHITE...DEACON JONES
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5_Golden_Rings
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Anyone whose dad is Daniel Brunskill cannot be the best defensive player ever.
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RedAlice
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So now, Niners play the best defensive player from the Rams.
and the best defensive player from the Hawks.
together.
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FL9er
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Was he better than Kevin Greene, Jack Youngblood, or Deacon/Merlin Olsen for the Rams?
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davidboutte
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AD may end up a top 5 all time defensive player. He's near that now. Short answer is no. LT