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Originally posted by Tman:
I'm not crying about injuries at all so you can just stop throwing that out in our discussion here.

You are not answering my question and seem to be against the thought of bringing him on for no other reason then "we have other needs and this isn't fantasy football"

He is ALL Carolina has on offense, he is the only thing defenses have to focus on when playing them and he still dominates.

How you can't see how much of an upgrade he would be to this offense is beyond me…..so I ask again what price would you be willing to consider him?

I didn't see a single? In that last post.

Yea he was the whole offense, because he had to be. You think he's gonna get 100 targets a yr here? yeah right. So what he's gonna get a good amount of rushing attempts and probably avg around 4.6ish YPC (which is damn good) guess what so does our current RBs.

I would give a day 3 pick and a future conditional pick nothing more. There's no point. You're gonna have to give more gtd cash to him and pray he magically doesn't get injured in SF 😂

yes there's so many other things needed that would lead to Ws over a RB. Yes it's fantasy football talk, fans want a name regardless of how much it actually changes…we're not scoring points because of RB play.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tman:
I'm not crying about injuries at all so you can just stop throwing that out in our discussion here.

You are not answering my question and seem to be against the thought of bringing him on for no other reason then "we have other needs and this isn't fantasy football"

He is ALL Carolina has on offense, he is the only thing defenses have to focus on when playing them and he still dominates.

How you can't see how much of an upgrade he would be to this offense is beyond me…..so I ask again what price would you be willing to consider him?

I didn't see a single? In that last post.

Yea he was the whole offense, because he had to be. You think he's gonna get 100 targets a yr here? yeah right. So what he's gonna get a good amount of rushing attempts and probably avg around 4.6ish YPC (which is damn good) guess what so does our current RBs.

I would give a day 3 pick and a future conditional pick nothing more. There's no point. You're gonna have to give more gtd cash to him and pray he magically doesn't get injured in SF 😂

yes there's so many other things needed that would lead to Ws over a RB. Yes it's fantasy football talk, fans want a name regardless of how much it actually changes…we're not scoring points because of RB play.

Then you didn't read my whole post

So I'll return the favor and stop there
Originally posted by Tman:
Then you didn't read my whole post

So I'll return the favor and stop there

Here's your post

"So your telling me he isn't a substantial upgrade over Jeff Wilson lol

and CMC has been as healthy as practically all of our RBs have been over the past few years and healthier then Mitchell has been so far in his career.

Do we have other needs on this team? We sure do but nothing eminent that will put the offense over the top to pair with this great defense (when healthy).

Kyle hasn't had even a pro bowl level rb in this offense yet, the best being Mostert and Brieda lol. Give him an all-pro and watch the f**k out"

I don't see a single question about what I would give up….so yeah
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49erfaninAZ:
Not sure how I'd feel about CMAC. He's injured too much. I didn't draft in two fantasy league because of that.

I'm in a small Fantasy league where one guy took CMC, Saquan and got Kamara cause people were passing on them due to injury and suspension concerns. He's undefeated so far

He's often injured because he was overused, he's all Carolina had. That wouldn't be the case here.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
our Team is what i meant

not sure why you bring up other teams and the SB. it has no comparison to how we play. on Center has nothing to do with it.. Jeff still got 75 yards

DT is not going to save the day, another DB won't save the day. The only way we are going to make or last in the playoffs is by offense.. haven't you learned that yet ? Defense is not going to save us, we have to score

all this injury talk, but CMC is not injured. the only fantasy is keeping the offense the same

You said ever "teams" so I responded with other teams and no one really needed a dynamic back. half the damn league runs our scheme man.

our center sucks and absolutely has something to do with the run game. Dude was the reason Lance broke his ankle.

a starting DT will stop the run and get pressure. A starting DB will allow the rest of the defense to play fast and free.

you just said Jeff Wilson "still" got 75 yards lol. We do not have a playmaker issue at all. How about we actually use the guys we have? If Kyle can't get more than 14 pts a game with Kittle/BA/Deebo that's a problem with him and the QB…not the RB who's still avg almost 5 ypc.

Yeah he's not injured this week…dude hasn't been healthy for a full season for years. I'm sure it will be magically different here. RBs never get hurt in SF
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
He's often injured because he was overused, he's all Carolina had. That wouldn't be the case here.

And that devalues what he is all the same, fans will be all butt hurt we aren't throwing to CMC every down or Kittle Or Deebo or BA.
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49erfaninAZ:
Not sure how I'd feel about CMAC. He's injured too much. I didn't draft in two fantasy league because of that.

I'm in a small Fantasy league where one guy took CMC, Saquan and got Kamara cause people were passing on them due to injury and suspension concerns. He's undefeated so far

He's often injured because he was overused, he's all Carolina had. That wouldn't be the case here.

Elijah Mitchell got hurt in 1 half of football. Injuries usually aren't a cumulative effect injury.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tman:
Then you didn't read my whole post

So I'll return the favor and stop there

Here's your post

"So your telling me he isn't a substantial upgrade over Jeff Wilson lol

and CMC has been as healthy as practically all of our RBs have been over the past few years and healthier then Mitchell has been so far in his career.

Do we have other needs on this team? We sure do but nothing eminent that will put the offense over the top to pair with this great defense (when healthy).

Kyle hasn't had even a pro bowl level rb in this offense yet, the best being Mostert and Brieda lol. Give him an all-pro and watch the f**k out"

I don't see a single question about what I would give up….so yeah

Here you go

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tman:
He has played in more games then Mitchell has over the past 2 seasons. Our rb draft picks have been garbage, let's burn them for a superstar proven commodity.

Yes he is better then every other rb on the roster, he would be taking touches away from every other rb on the roster. Kittle, BA won't miss a thing…Deebo will miss a few more carriers which the league has caught up to already.

No we don't need an all-pro to be good and that's fine if you just want to be good. An all-pro can make it great, and as good as we can hope for with a mid tier QB at the helm.

We have a strong opportunity in the NFC this year. Don't break the bank for him but if the price is reasonable then why not? His contract certainly isn't a limiting factor…..at what price would you consider it?

He would be taking "touches" from every playmaker OR he wouldn't and then he's not as effective. How you can say they wouldn't miss a thing is beyond me.

his value is as pass catcher more than a rusher. Wilson is currently avg more YPC and Mitchell has just as many YPC over his short career. While he's better (which no one is denying that) it's one of the last things this teams needs to burn picks on.

Who's the last all-pro RB to win the Super Bowl? CMC will absolutely want his contract restructured (more GTD cash) wherever he goes.

fans cry about injuries and want and often injured player, who was force fed the ball on a team that had little less. Focus on what this team really needs, not fantasy football

so yeah
First team All-Pro is a fantasy football honor, my bad lol
Originally posted by Tman:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tman:
Then you didn't read my whole post

So I'll return the favor and stop there

Here's your post

"So your telling me he isn't a substantial upgrade over Jeff Wilson lol

and CMC has been as healthy as practically all of our RBs have been over the past few years and healthier then Mitchell has been so far in his career.

Do we have other needs on this team? We sure do but nothing eminent that will put the offense over the top to pair with this great defense (when healthy).

Kyle hasn't had even a pro bowl level rb in this offense yet, the best being Mostert and Brieda lol. Give him an all-pro and watch the f**k out"

I don't see a single question about what I would give up….so yeah

Here you go

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tman:
He has played in more games then Mitchell has over the past 2 seasons. Our rb draft picks have been garbage, let's burn them for a superstar proven commodity.

Yes he is better then every other rb on the roster, he would be taking touches away from every other rb on the roster. Kittle, BA won't miss a thing…Deebo will miss a few more carriers which the league has caught up to already.

No we don't need an all-pro to be good and that's fine if you just want to be good. An all-pro can make it great, and as good as we can hope for with a mid tier QB at the helm.

We have a strong opportunity in the NFC this year. Don't break the bank for him but if the price is reasonable then why not? His contract certainly isn't a limiting factor…..at what price would you consider it?

He would be taking "touches" from every playmaker OR he wouldn't and then he's not as effective. How you can say they wouldn't miss a thing is beyond me.

his value is as pass catcher more than a rusher. Wilson is currently avg more YPC and Mitchell has just as many YPC over his short career. While he's better (which no one is denying that) it's one of the last things this teams needs to burn picks on.

Who's the last all-pro RB to win the Super Bowl? CMC will absolutely want his contract restructured (more GTD cash) wherever he goes.

fans cry about injuries and want and often injured player, who was force fed the ball on a team that had little less. Focus on what this team really needs, not fantasy football

so yeah

And I gave you my answer after the fact. A RB isn't magically making this offense amazing.
Originally posted by Tman:
First team All-Pro is a fantasy football honor, my bad lol

How many all-pro RBs winning SBs? Oh and that was back in 2019. That's a lifetime ago in RB years.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Oct 18, 2022 at 4:53 PM ]
there's only 4 RBs avg more YPC that has as many (or more) carries then Wilson. Barkley/Chubb/Jacobs/Stevenson.

we don't have a RB issue and he's the backup
I wouldn't give up too much for McCaffrey. Yeah he's good. He's injured a lot and his a very high salary too. We don't have a 1st rounder thanks to Trey. Yet again year after year. So we are down to a 2nd rounder. If we trade that we are down to a 3rd rounder. That's pretty late to be drafting. Draft is not everything. You could also look at McCaffrey as one of your draft picks essentially. Just not sure the economics work out. If you want to keep some of the 49ers guys in house in future years. We don't need another really big salary.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And I gave you my answer after the fact. A RB isn't magically making this offense amazing.
it did last year
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tman:
First team All-Pro is a fantasy football honor, my bad lol

How many all-pro RBs winning SBs? Oh and that was back in 2019. That's a lifetime ago in RB years.

Not many, its usually all pro qbs that do and not all the time either.

We definitely don't have an all pro qb so why not get him all the help he can get?
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