Carolina Fire Sale

Originally posted by NYniner85:
there's only 4 RBs avg more YPC that has as many (or more) carries then Wilson. Barkley/Chubb/Jacobs/Stevenson.

we don't have a RB issue and he's the backup

As I've said before, if a mediocre Jeff Wilson can do what he does in this offense what could CMC do?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And I gave you my answer after the fact. A RB isn't magically making this offense amazing.

it did last year

No it didn't. The defense played better allowing SF to not have to play from behind and throw the ball…once that happens you have to rely on Jimmy.

no different then last week.

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
there's only 4 RBs avg more YPC that has as many (or more) carries then Wilson. Barkley/Chubb/Jacobs/Stevenson.

we don't have a RB issue and he's the backup

#49ers' Rushing EPA/Play ranks under Kyle Shanahan:

2019: 7th
2020: 11th
2021: 23rd
2022: 27th

Shanahan's run game has been trending the wrong way and it's having ripple effects on overall offensive output.

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) October 17, 2022

So show me the RB missing all the holes. Again there's only 4 RBs avging more yards per carry (with as many carries) as Wilson, who not even the starter.

it isn't a Rb issue. It's a constant stacked box and lack of good run blocking issue.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And I gave you my answer after the fact. A RB isn't magically making this offense amazing.

it did last year

No it didn't. The defense played better allowing SF to not have to play from behind and throw the ball…once that happens you have to rely on Jimmy.

no different then last week.

so deebo didn't have any effect playing the wideback position ..lol ok

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
so deebo didn't have any effect playing the wideback position ..lol ok

That's a personnel pre-snap call. Defenses had to adjust to that…why isn't Deebo working this yr as a runner?? Teams adjusted.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
so deebo didn't have any effect playing the wideback position ..lol ok

That's a personnel pre-snap call. Defenses had to adjust to that…why isn't Deebo working this yr as a runner?? Teams adjusted.

did deebo have no effect on the offense last year ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
did deebo have no effect on the offense last year ?

If he's so "dynamic" why isn't it working this yr? Answer the question please

and while it was effective, he wasn't running the ball 20x a game man. No more than 8 carries a game.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
there's only 4 RBs avg more YPC that has as many (or more) carries then Wilson. Barkley/Chubb/Jacobs/Stevenson.

we don't have a RB issue and he's the backup

#49ers' Rushing EPA/Play ranks under Kyle Shanahan:

2019: 7th
2020: 11th
2021: 23rd
2022: 27th

Shanahan's run game has been trending the wrong way and it's having ripple effects on overall offensive output.

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) October 17, 2022

So show me the RB missing all the holes. Again there's only 4 RBs avging more yards per carry (with as many carries) as Wilson, who not even the starter.

it isn't a Rb issue. It's a constant stacked box and lack of good run blocking issue.

Lol ok let me get right on that all-22 for you

These are just the numbers, take it for what it's worth.

Wilson has a good ypc, but he isn't scaring anybody and rarely breaks off chunk runs that we used to see so much of back in 2019. This offense needs those chunk runs to be at its optimal level.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
did deebo have no effect on the offense last year ?

If he's so "dynamic" why isn't it working this yr? Answer the question please

and while it was effective, he wasn't running the ball 20x a game man. No more than 8 carries a game.

did deebo have no effect on the offense last year ?

Originally posted by Tman:
Lol ok let me get right on that all-22 for you

These are just the numbers, take it for what it's worth.

Wilson has a good ypc, but he isn't scaring anybody and rarely breaks off chunk runs that we used to see so much of back in 2019. This offense needs those chunk runs to be at its optimal level.

And why is CMC breaking off all these chunk runs on the regular….What Mostert did for a short period of time wasn't something that was repeatable forever. It was special but not normal.

Avg almost 5 yards per carry as a backup is stupid good. Again we don't have a RB issue. You want a flashy big name at a position thy doesn't matter all that much.

Like I said that number has more to do with who's playing QB (playing out of shotgun more) and avg RBLK.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
did deebo have no effect on the offense last year ?

Lol you won't answer my question because you know the answer. He was effective for a short amount of time in given situations…a couple carries a game. Stop acting like he was a RB taking 20 carries a game.

Why isn't he running well this yr??

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
there's only 4 RBs avg more YPC that has as many (or more) carries then Wilson. Barkley/Chubb/Jacobs/Stevenson.

we don't have a RB issue and he's the backup

#49ers' Rushing EPA/Play ranks under Kyle Shanahan:

2019: 7th
2020: 11th
2021: 23rd
2022: 27th

Shanahan's run game has been trending the wrong way and it's having ripple effects on overall offensive output.

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) October 17, 2022

We can't rely on stats and outcomes to judge this team

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
there's only 4 RBs avg more YPC that has as many (or more) carries then Wilson. Barkley/Chubb/Jacobs/Stevenson.

we don't have a RB issue and he's the backup

#49ers' Rushing EPA/Play ranks under Kyle Shanahan:

2019: 7th
2020: 11th
2021: 23rd
2022: 27th

Shanahan's run game has been trending the wrong way and it's having ripple effects on overall offensive output.

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) October 17, 2022

We can't rely on stats and outcomes to judge this team

Lol I know right

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Tman:
Lol ok let me get right on that all-22 for you

These are just the numbers, take it for what it's worth.

Wilson has a good ypc, but he isn't scaring anybody and rarely breaks off chunk runs that we used to see so much of back in 2019. This offense needs those chunk runs to be at its optimal level.

And why is CMC breaking off all these chunk runs on the regular….What Mostert did for a short period of time wasn't something that was repeatable forever. It was special but not normal.

Avg almost 5 yards per carry as a backup is stupid good. Again we don't have a RB issue. You want a flashy big name at a position thy doesn't matter all that much.

Like I said that number has more to do with who's playing QB (playing out of shotgun more) and avg RBLK.

We have steadily declined for 4 straight years with the same qb or worse so that kinda invalidates that argument

Curious because I really don't know, what is Wilson's yards after contact and any idea where that ranks in the nfl? Going to have to look that up when I get a moment

A high number would tell me he is overcoming poor blocking a low number would tell me he is benefiting from good blocking, given his high ypc.

And lol at just wanting a flashy name. I could give a f**k what the name on the jersey is, if Sermon could do what CMC could do then I'd be saying the same thing. I just want to see the team win.