Justin Fields and his Steelers

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
I will no longer post in this thread because we didn't draft him so it's all ashes

Hey it's OK. We as fans have a right to resent decisions! It was POTENTIALLY a bad choice, time will tell

I will need therapy if Fields turns out to be a franchise QB

Hahahaha. We all Will

Have you been in therapy since 2005?

I've needed therapy since Young retired. No quality QB's since then. Wasn't a fan of jump throwing Garcia.

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
I will no longer post in this thread because we didn't draft him so it's all ashes

Hey it's OK. We as fans have a right to resent decisions! It was POTENTIALLY a bad choice, time will tell

I will need therapy if Fields turns out to be a franchise QB

Hahahaha. We all Will

Have you been in therapy since 2005?

I've needed therapy since Young retired. No quality QB's since then. Wasn't a fan of jump throwing Garcia.

I think we have been teased so many times as 49er fans since 2005.

Alex smith-2006 season a big tease looks like he's about to breakout, boom next year gets hurt against Steelers. Never becomes a true Franchise guy

Kaepernick-thought this guy was the next Mike Vick running/strong arm Franchise QB. Wrong

Jimmy G-Amazing 5-0 start on a bad team in 2017. I was so f**king pumped when we traded for him the day before Halloween for a 2nd rounder. I though this guy is a mini Brady. Wrong.

Trey Lance- dude throws a couple long ass passes in limited action and boom! This guy is our version of Mahomes. Lol wrong. He is more like a slow ass wannabe running QB that was injured by the coach.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
To be clear, you are saying if Trey was ballin against 2nd and 3rd stringers last preseason, Shanahan would have made the switch to start the season? I dont buy that idea for one second. There was no competition. Trey almost never worked with the first team. He wasnt going to become the starter no matter what he did in the preseason games.

You say things like this but I question if you believe them. If TL was Brady (on that level) he would have started game 1. He was extremely raw and not ready. I don't blame him one bit. He was a very raw prospect, didn't even play his 2020 season, no fault of his. To suggest he could have been better than JG in 2021 but KS didn't give him a chance paints KS as an idiot for no reason.. other than to support your theory.. help me understand why KS would have closed his mind to any comp.. he saw them every day and said JG is the guy in 2021.

To tie this to Fields he probably sits year 1 here.. but has more a chance than TL as he played a lot more in college is my guess.

I absolutely believe it. A coach isnt going to replace his starting QB, who he repeatedly stated publicly was his starter, because his rookie backup lit up the 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason. Yes, I believe that 100%.

Bolded.....your reading comprehension is horrendous if thats what you think you read.

There are plenty of reasons why Jimmy started last season, and not all of them have to do with the fact that he was the better QB. Why did Kyle not allow a true competition? You would have to ask him, not me.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I absolutely believe it. A coach isnt going to replace his starting QB, who he repeatedly stated publicly was his starter, because his rookie backup lit up the 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason. Yes, I believe that 100%.

Bolded.....your reading comprehension is horrendous if thats what you think you read.

There are plenty of reasons why Jimmy started last season, and not all of them have to do with the fact that he was the better QB. Why did Kyle not allow a true competition? You would have to ask him, not me.

We can agree to disagree. I'm not concerned about preseason as much. For me it boils down to what a HC does and that's set the depth chart. You are around those guys for months. Every day. He went with the guys who gave a best chance to win in 2021.. simple as that.

Pivoting back to Fields he has risen 17 spots from start of the year to now on NFL.com he's top 10 in NFL on their ranks

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
I will no longer post in this thread because we didn't draft him so it's all ashes

Hey it's OK. We as fans have a right to resent decisions! It was POTENTIALLY a bad choice, time will tell

I will need therapy if Fields turns out to be a franchise QB

Hahahaha. We all Will

Have you been in therapy since 2005?

I've needed therapy since Young retired. No quality QB's since then. Wasn't a fan of jump throwing Garcia.

I think we have been teased so many times as 49er fans since 2005.

Alex smith-2006 season a big tease looks like he's about to breakout, boom next year gets hurt against Steelers. Never becomes a true Franchise guy

Kaepernick-thought this guy was the next Mike Vick running/strong arm Franchise QB. Wrong

Jimmy G-Amazing 5-0 start on a bad team in 2017. I was so f**king pumped when we traded for him the day before Halloween for a 2nd rounder. I though this guy is a mini Brady. Wrong.

Trey Lance- dude throws a couple long ass passes in limited action and boom! This guy is our version of Mahomes. Lol wrong. He is more like a slow ass wannabe running QB that was injured by the coach.

Yes it was disappointing how Shanny broke our new toy in his second game. When I see Lance run and Fields run, it is like night and day. Fields is a burner who can throw and Trey is well...Trey. Everything else is TBD.

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
I will no longer post in this thread because we didn't draft him so it's all ashes

Hey it's OK. We as fans have a right to resent decisions! It was POTENTIALLY a bad choice, time will tell

I will need therapy if Fields turns out to be a franchise QB

Hahahaha. We all Will

Have you been in therapy since 2005?

I've needed therapy since Young retired. No quality QB's since then. Wasn't a fan of jump throwing Garcia.

I think we have been teased so many times as 49er fans since 2005.

Alex smith-2006 season a big tease looks like he's about to breakout, boom next year gets hurt against Steelers. Never becomes a true Franchise guy

Kaepernick-thought this guy was the next Mike Vick running/strong arm Franchise QB. Wrong

Jimmy G-Amazing 5-0 start on a bad team in 2017. I was so f**king pumped when we traded for him the day before Halloween for a 2nd rounder. I though this guy is a mini Brady. Wrong.

Trey Lance- dude throws a couple long ass passes in limited action and boom! This guy is our version of Mahomes. Lol wrong. He is more like a slow ass wannabe running QB that was injured by the coach.

Yes it was disappointing how Shanny broke our new toy in his second game. When I see Lance run and Fields run, it is like night and day. Fields is a burner who can throw and Trey is well...Trey. Everything else is TBD.

Is there an echo in here 😭😭

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fields has only recently started playing better. He now has around one full season of starts under his belt. Playing better is a relative term since his completion % is still only 58.9 for this season. Most games have been 60% 0r less. Much of his success is because of his running which is off the charts. The question is how long will that last. Eventually he will need to stop running so much if he wants to have along career.

Now take a look at the scrub players on his team vs the stars on this team that Lance can't do anything with.

You need to stop with this narrative. Lance isn't even playing and hasn't played for two months. There is no honest basis for comparison until Lance actually has extended time as a starter when fully healthy.

Durable > injured.

When you can run through the hole with 4.4 speed instead of 4.9 and get popped before you get through that also helps.

The bolded is true, however, that was not the point you were making.

You have been saying Lance is not a good player. That assertion is based on a very limited amount of PT. Hence, my comment you need to find another narrative. When he has had as much PT as Fields and is still not performing well, then you have a case. As for now, the sample size is far too small to make an authoritative statement.

He hasn't played well. He lost to Justin Fields and didn't look great at all. Fields looked like the far superior athlete in that game. He also made the big plays while Lance didn't. So far he threw 1 good deep ball against Houston last year. That's about it for dynamic plays. The WR made a lot of run after the catch too.

A more accurate statement would be that "he hasn't played much."

Again, you are comparing a player that had played 10 prior pro games after a full season of top-tier college ball to a guy that had only played a handful of games over a three-year time frame in both college and pro. Your sample size is arguably far too small to be making such iron-clad statements.

Maybe they should think of that stuff before making the pick. Top tier program and top tier competition.

It looks like when Lamar broke out in his 1st year he looks great all he needs to do is figure out how to throw from the pocket because of the probability of injury running so much

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fields has only recently started playing better. He now has around one full season of starts under his belt. Playing better is a relative term since his completion % is still only 58.9 for this season. Most games have been 60% 0r less. Much of his success is because of his running which is off the charts. The question is how long will that last. Eventually he will need to stop running so much if he wants to have along career.

Now take a look at the scrub players on his team vs the stars on this team that Lance can't do anything with.

You need to stop with this narrative. Lance isn't even playing and hasn't played for two months. There is no honest basis for comparison until Lance actually has extended time as a starter when fully healthy.

Durable > injured.

When you can run through the hole with 4.4 speed instead of 4.9 and get popped before you get through that also helps.

The bolded is true, however, that was not the point you were making.

You have been saying Lance is not a good player. That assertion is based on a very limited amount of PT. Hence, my comment you need to find another narrative. When he has had as much PT as Fields and is still not performing well, then you have a case. As for now, the sample size is far too small to make an authoritative statement.

He hasn't played well. He lost to Justin Fields and didn't look great at all. Fields looked like the far superior athlete in that game. He also made the big plays while Lance didn't. So far he threw 1 good deep ball against Houston last year. That's about it for dynamic plays. The WR made a lot of run after the catch too.

A more accurate statement would be that "he hasn't played much."

Again, you are comparing a player that had played 10 prior pro games after a full season of top-tier college ball to a guy that had only played a handful of games over a three-year time frame in both college and pro. Your sample size is arguably far too small to be making such iron-clad statements.

Maybe they should think of that stuff before making the pick. Top tier program and top tier competition.

I've never seen anyone so quick to throw a player under the bus. Everyone except you apparently, knew that Trey was a a project and would need one or two seasons to really show his talents. Instead we got a couple of starts in 2021 and 2 this year before his ankle got stepped on. You're saying he looks slw based on a very limited number of plays. His running looked tentative to me so I doubt he was running full speed.

Give this guy a chance. Fans have given Jimmy 5 years. Trey deserves at least 2 as the starter. Kyle and John aren't stupid. They wouldn't have used those picks to move up if they hadn't seen something in the workouts and game film. If he doesn't look like the guy after a couple of years as the starter then move on. Writing him off at this point is dumb.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've never seen anyone so quick to throw a player under the bus. Everyone except you apparently, knew that Trey was a a project and would need one or two seasons to really show his talents. Instead we got a couple of starts in 2021 and 2 this year before his ankle got stepped on. You're saying he looks slw based on a very limited number of plays. His running looked tentative to me so I doubt he was running full speed.

Give this guy a chance. Fans have given Jimmy 5 years. Trey deserves at least 2 as the starter. Kyle and John aren't stupid. They wouldn't have used those picks to move up if they hadn't seen something in the workouts and game film. If he doesn't look like the guy after a couple of years as the starter then move on. Writing him off at this point is dumb.

Martz said he's not fast, stumbles around out there like a fullback was his quote. That was from him watching the Bears game. We saw him get beat to the spot repeatedly by the ARZ front seven. I haven't seen and would like anyone to share a designed TL run from an NFL game that worked or looked good, with TL the ballcarrier.

Meanwhile the first view of Fields for many SF fans came last year vs SF and he house called in that game with a electric play iirc..

That said people can change my suggestion is he come back a lil lighter at 215 lose some baby fat add a lil muscle but a net loss... see what happens..

I'm not writing him off, but I can say that NFL stands for Not For Long, you either play and produce or you are out, I think ppl assume he will have a long run as starter based on his draft position I don't assume anything he has to earn it.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've never seen anyone so quick to throw a player under the bus. Everyone except you apparently, knew that Trey was a a project and would need one or two seasons to really show his talents. Instead we got a couple of starts in 2021 and 2 this year before his ankle got stepped on. You're saying he looks slw based on a very limited number of plays. His running looked tentative to me so I doubt he was running full speed.

Give this guy a chance. Fans have given Jimmy 5 years. Trey deserves at least 2 as the starter. Kyle and John aren't stupid. They wouldn't have used those picks to move up if they hadn't seen something in the workouts and game film. If he doesn't look like the guy after a couple of years as the starter then move on. Writing him off at this point is dumb.

Martz said he's not fast, stumbles around out there like a fullback was his quote. That was from him watching the Bears game. We saw him get beat to the spot repeatedly by the ARZ front seven. I haven't seen and would like anyone to share a designed TL run from an NFL game that worked or looked good, with TL the ballcarrier.

Meanwhile the first view of Fields for many SF fans came last year vs SF and he house called in that game with a electric play iirc..

That said people can change my suggestion is he come back a lil lighter at 215 lose some baby fat add a lil muscle but a net loss... see what happens..

I'm not writing him off, but I can say that NFL stands for Not For Long, you either play and produce or you are out, I think ppl assume he will have a long run as starter based on his draft position I don't assume anything he has to earn it.

Martz said. That settles it then. Kyle knows nothing about the guy they see in practice but Martz can make that decision based on a few plays. Wow.

Originally posted by Wheelz29:
It looks like when Lamar broke out in his 1st year he looks great all he needs to do is figure out how to throw from the pocket because of the probability of injury running so much

Here we go again.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've never seen anyone so quick to throw a player under the bus. Everyone except you apparently, knew that Trey was a a project and would need one or two seasons to really show his talents. Instead we got a couple of starts in 2021 and 2 this year before his ankle got stepped on. You're saying he looks slw based on a very limited number of plays. His running looked tentative to me so I doubt he was running full speed.

Give this guy a chance. Fans have given Jimmy 5 years. Trey deserves at least 2 as the starter. Kyle and John aren't stupid. They wouldn't have used those picks to move up if they hadn't seen something in the workouts and game film. If he doesn't look like the guy after a couple of years as the starter then move on. Writing him off at this point is dumb.

Martz said he's not fast, stumbles around out there like a fullback was his quote. That was from him watching the Bears game. We saw him get beat to the spot repeatedly by the ARZ front seven. I haven't seen and would like anyone to share a designed TL run from an NFL game that worked or looked good, with TL the ballcarrier.

Meanwhile the first view of Fields for many SF fans came last year vs SF and he house called in that game with a electric play iirc..

That said people can change my suggestion is he come back a lil lighter at 215 lose some baby fat add a lil muscle but a net loss... see what happens..

I'm not writing him off, but I can say that NFL stands for Not For Long, you either play and produce or you are out, I think ppl assume he will have a long run as starter based on his draft position I don't assume anything he has to earn it.

Martz said. That settles it then. Kyle knows nothing about the guy they see in practice but Martz can make that decision based on a few plays. Wow.

He's got a heavy first step. He's not electric like Fields. It is what it is. I don't think it can be coached or worked on, aside from as I mentioned losing some weight and gaining some speed perhaps.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fields has only recently started playing better. He now has around one full season of starts under his belt. Playing better is a relative term since his completion % is still only 58.9 for this season. Most games have been 60% 0r less. Much of his success is because of his running which is off the charts. The question is how long will that last. Eventually he will need to stop running so much if he wants to have along career.

Now take a look at the scrub players on his team vs the stars on this team that Lance can't do anything with.

You need to stop with this narrative. Lance isn't even playing and hasn't played for two months. There is no honest basis for comparison until Lance actually has extended time as a starter when fully healthy.

Durable > injured.

When you can run through the hole with 4.4 speed instead of 4.9 and get popped before you get through that also helps.

The bolded is true, however, that was not the point you were making.

You have been saying Lance is not a good player. That assertion is based on a very limited amount of PT. Hence, my comment you need to find another narrative. When he has had as much PT as Fields and is still not performing well, then you have a case. As for now, the sample size is far too small to make an authoritative statement.

He hasn't played well. He lost to Justin Fields and didn't look great at all. Fields looked like the far superior athlete in that game. He also made the big plays while Lance didn't. So far he threw 1 good deep ball against Houston last year. That's about it for dynamic plays. The WR made a lot of run after the catch too.

A more accurate statement would be that "he hasn't played much."

Again, you are comparing a player that had played 10 prior pro games after a full season of top-tier college ball to a guy that had only played a handful of games over a three-year time frame in both college and pro. Your sample size is arguably far too small to be making such iron-clad statements.

Maybe they should think of that stuff before making the pick. Top tier program and top tier competition.

Obviously, they did since ShanaLynch made the calculated decision to draft him.

They also looked at Justin Fields, and with a lot of game film to review, decided the kid with less experience showed greater potential.

Now we have to wait, with all our reservations and hopes, to see who was right. That question will not be firmly settled until at least the end of the 2023 season.

In the meantime, we have another thread in which we can indulge all our wildest speculations, good and bad.

He would've looked great as a RB for us, Kyle should've taken him.