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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fields has only recently started playing better. He now has around one full season of starts under his belt. Playing better is a relative term since his completion % is still only 58.9 for this season. Most games have been 60% 0r less. Much of his success is because of his running which is off the charts. The question is how long will that last. Eventually he will need to stop running so much if he wants to have along career.

Now take a look at the scrub players on his team vs the stars on this team that Lance can't do anything with.

You need to stop with this narrative. Lance isn't even playing and hasn't played for two months. There is no honest basis for comparison until Lance actually has extended time as a starter when fully healthy.

Durable > injured.

When you can run through the hole with 4.4 speed instead of 4.9 and get popped before you get through that also helps.

The bolded is true, however, that was not the point you were making.

You have been saying Lance is not a good player. That assertion is based on a very limited amount of PT. Hence, my comment you need to find another narrative. When he has had as much PT as Fields and is still not performing well, then you have a case. As for now, the sample size is far too small to make an authoritative statement.

He hasn't played well. He lost to Justin Fields and didn't look great at all. Fields looked like the far superior athlete in that game. He also made the big plays while Lance didn't. So far he threw 1 good deep ball against Houston last year. That's about it for dynamic plays. The WR made a lot of run after the catch too.

A more accurate statement would be that "he hasn't played much."

Again, you are comparing a player that had played 10 prior pro games after a full season of top-tier college ball to a guy that had only played a handful of games over a three-year time frame in both college and pro. Your sample size is arguably far too small to be making such iron-clad statements.

Maybe they should think of that stuff before making the pick. Top tier program and top tier competition.
Obviously, they did since ShanaLynch made the calculated decision to draft him.

They also looked at Justin Fields, and with a lot of game film to review, decided the kid with less experience showed greater potential.

Now we have to wait, with all our reservations and hopes, to see who was right. That question will not be firmly settled until at least the end of the 2023 season.

In the meantime, we have another thread in which we can indulge all our wildest speculations, good and bad.

Very well said! I'm cautiously optimistic but at the same time a little concerned. It could have just how Trey was used but Fields is carrying an offense rn. Only time will tell. I'm hoping Trey is a great QB because he was drafted to be the QBOTF.

Fields is hopefully going to carry my team into the FFB playoffs.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've never seen anyone so quick to throw a player under the bus. Everyone except you apparently, knew that Trey was a a project and would need one or two seasons to really show his talents. Instead we got a couple of starts in 2021 and 2 this year before his ankle got stepped on. You're saying he looks slw based on a very limited number of plays. His running looked tentative to me so I doubt he was running full speed.

Give this guy a chance. Fans have given Jimmy 5 years. Trey deserves at least 2 as the starter. Kyle and John aren't stupid. They wouldn't have used those picks to move up if they hadn't seen something in the workouts and game film. If he doesn't look like the guy after a couple of years as the starter then move on. Writing him off at this point is dumb.

Martz said he's not fast, stumbles around out there like a fullback was his quote. That was from him watching the Bears game. We saw him get beat to the spot repeatedly by the ARZ front seven. I haven't seen and would like anyone to share a designed TL run from an NFL game that worked or looked good, with TL the ballcarrier.

Meanwhile the first view of Fields for many SF fans came last year vs SF and he house called in that game with a electric play iirc..

That said people can change my suggestion is he come back a lil lighter at 215 lose some baby fat add a lil muscle but a net loss... see what happens..

I'm not writing him off, but I can say that NFL stands for Not For Long, you either play and produce or you are out, I think ppl assume he will have a long run as starter based on his draft position I don't assume anything he has to earn it.

Martz said. That settles it then. Kyle knows nothing about the guy they see in practice but Martz can make that decision based on a few plays. Wow.

He left out the most important thing…..Martz also ripped Fields a new one criticizing his play and lack of ability as a passer. Whoops

I wouldn't use Martz's opinions on either qb. That's completely worthless. I think they will both be top 8-12 qbs in the league with Fields being the better runner and Lance the better passer
[ Edited by elguapo on Nov 18, 2022 at 11:13 PM ]
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've never seen anyone so quick to throw a player under the bus. Everyone except you apparently, knew that Trey was a a project and would need one or two seasons to really show his talents. Instead we got a couple of starts in 2021 and 2 this year before his ankle got stepped on. You're saying he looks slw based on a very limited number of plays. His running looked tentative to me so I doubt he was running full speed.

Give this guy a chance. Fans have given Jimmy 5 years. Trey deserves at least 2 as the starter. Kyle and John aren't stupid. They wouldn't have used those picks to move up if they hadn't seen something in the workouts and game film. If he doesn't look like the guy after a couple of years as the starter then move on. Writing him off at this point is dumb.

Martz said he's not fast, stumbles around out there like a fullback was his quote. That was from him watching the Bears game. We saw him get beat to the spot repeatedly by the ARZ front seven. I haven't seen and would like anyone to share a designed TL run from an NFL game that worked or looked good, with TL the ballcarrier.

Meanwhile the first view of Fields for many SF fans came last year vs SF and he house called in that game with a electric play iirc..

That said people can change my suggestion is he come back a lil lighter at 215 lose some baby fat add a lil muscle but a net loss... see what happens..

I'm not writing him off, but I can say that NFL stands for Not For Long, you either play and produce or you are out, I think ppl assume he will have a long run as starter based on his draft position I don't assume anything he has to earn it.

Martz said. That settles it then. Kyle knows nothing about the guy they see in practice but Martz can make that decision based on a few plays. Wow.

He left out the most important thing…..Martz also ripped Fields a new one criticizing his play and lack of ability as a passer. Whoops

I wouldn't use Martz's opinions on either qb. That's completely worthless. I think they will both be top 8-12 qbs in the league with Fields being the better runner and Lance the better passer

What has Lance shown on any level to make you believe that he'll be a better passer than Fields? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've never seen anyone so quick to throw a player under the bus. Everyone except you apparently, knew that Trey was a a project and would need one or two seasons to really show his talents. Instead we got a couple of starts in 2021 and 2 this year before his ankle got stepped on. You're saying he looks slw based on a very limited number of plays. His running looked tentative to me so I doubt he was running full speed.

Give this guy a chance. Fans have given Jimmy 5 years. Trey deserves at least 2 as the starter. Kyle and John aren't stupid. They wouldn't have used those picks to move up if they hadn't seen something in the workouts and game film. If he doesn't look like the guy after a couple of years as the starter then move on. Writing him off at this point is dumb.

Martz said he's not fast, stumbles around out there like a fullback was his quote. That was from him watching the Bears game. We saw him get beat to the spot repeatedly by the ARZ front seven. I haven't seen and would like anyone to share a designed TL run from an NFL game that worked or looked good, with TL the ballcarrier.

Meanwhile the first view of Fields for many SF fans came last year vs SF and he house called in that game with a electric play iirc..

That said people can change my suggestion is he come back a lil lighter at 215 lose some baby fat add a lil muscle but a net loss... see what happens..

I'm not writing him off, but I can say that NFL stands for Not For Long, you either play and produce or you are out, I think ppl assume he will have a long run as starter based on his draft position I don't assume anything he has to earn it.

Martz said. That settles it then. Kyle knows nothing about the guy they see in practice but Martz can make that decision based on a few plays. Wow.

He left out the most important thing…..Martz also ripped Fields a new one criticizing his play and lack of ability as a passer. Whoops

I wouldn't use Martz's opinions on either qb. That's completely worthless. I think they will both be top 8-12 qbs in the league with Fields being the better runner and Lance the better passer

What has Lance shown on any level to make you believe that he'll be a better passer than Fields? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.

His last two games.

Against Houston Lance had an awesome second-half (Even his first half I believe he was 10 of 14 passing so that wasn't so bad and better than fields completion percentage has ever been in any game)

When he played the Bears in the first half before the great flood Lance was so much better passing then Fields. Fields couldn't even pass beyond the line of scrimmage with accuracy. While Lance was making layered throws. Even Eric Crocker mentioned this during his podcast quite a few times. Hope that clears it up
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
What has Lance shown on any level to make you believe that he'll be a better passer than Fields? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.

Fields has been historically bad at throwing the ball much of this year so yes lance has been better than historically bad
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Fields has been historically bad at throwing the ball much of this year

Lol no.

9 TDs in last 9 quarters now... I've watched from last year to week 1 this year to now.. the growth as a passer has been tremendous!
That was an atrocious overthrow to a wide open wr for an easy td. The defender even fell down
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Fields has been historically bad at throwing the ball much of this year

Lol no.

9 TDs in last 9 quarters now... I've watched from last year to week 1 this year to now.. the growth as a passer has been tremendous!

He is playing great with the weapons he has to work with. Dude would be putting up monster numbers with Deebo, McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, Juice, Mitchell. Having great weapons definitely matters. He is carrying the bears offense no doubt.
Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Fields has been historically bad at throwing the ball much of this year

Lol no.

9 TDs in last 9 quarters now... I've watched from last year to week 1 this year to now.. the growth as a passer has been tremendous!

He is playing great with the weapons he has to work with. Dude would be putting up monster numbers with Deebo, McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, Juice, Mitchell. Having great weapons definitely matters. He is carrying the bears offense no doubt.

His weapons aren't poor.
Now 4 rush and 6 pass TDs in last 10 qtrs.. 10 qtrs 10 TDs
What a weapon. Man he's gonna be a problem in the future.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
What a weapon. Man he's gonna be a problem in the future.

He's a prob now ATL has no answer. If you come up he's got the open receivers downfield. If you stay back Bears pound the rock, Fields leading the way. CHI pacing toward 40 pts this game.
Fields looking studly again today. Wonder who we draft with the 3rd overall pick if we got a redo in the 2021 draft.
Originally posted by jjmrtrpt:
Fields looking studly again today. Wonder who we draft with the 3rd overall pick if we got a redo in the 2021 draft.

If we get a redo yes.. if the NFL gets a redo he's not otc at 3
This is coaching malpractice. Don't injure my fantasy Savior!
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