Justin Fields and his Steelers

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
All he does is rush for TDs and lose games

Apparently you haven't seen the team he is on. Because he throws TD's to scrubs like Pettis. Give him some weapons and he will be amazing. The weapons are 10 times better on this team.

Actually I have as I have the NFL ticket.. He runs for TDs and loses games .

He is getting no help from the defense. He should have heat Miami and they should.habe won last week. Defense gives up too many points and he doesn't have great weapons.

He's an electric player and I wish we drafted him. He is on a very bad team.

This take is correct. On a good team he runs for touchdowns. He throws for touchdowns. He would win games.

He runs for TDs and loses games

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
It's true he isn't winning and makes bonehead plays but imagine if WE drafted him, with our coaching staff, our organization, our playmakers.

I'm not s**tting on trey, def think we need to actually see him, but damn fields would've been so good here

I don't think it works this way. Fields flourishes when he plays backyard football. That would drive Shanahan absolutely f**king crazy. At least Lance is trying to work within shanahans system.

Also his O Line is very good at run blocking. Very good. So all this lack of weapons crap are good excuses. He misses Mooney on the regular and Claypool doesn't get targeted yet. Cmet gets open all the time. Montgomery and Herbert are a top 5-8 rb duo. Please.

I've been watching his last few games. He's not missing many and he's dropping dimes. And yes a tremendous running talent like Lamar or Hurts. His ability to make guys miss is excellent, not that last run obviously.

If his defense was worth a damn they would have more wins. Fields is a carrying an entire offense. Jimmy can't even do that, not trying to call him out. Fields is balling. To discount that is not fair. Defense sucks though.

Who's discounting anything? However, to dismiss his limitations is denial. He is horrendous throwing on 3rd downs. He has thrown 2 game sealing ints the last 2 weeks vs 2 of the worst defenses in football. He has missed wide open TDs. This is all facts

I wanted Lance Fields or Lawrence and did not want Wilson or Mac so I don't have an agenda here. Just being honest. His rbs are very good, his run blocking is very good, his TE is very good at getting open and scoring TDs and Claypool and Mooney aren't a bad combo at all. Come on mannnnnn

It's true. Winning qbs separate themselves by doing two things. Having big 3rd down conversions and playing well at the end of games. Fields does neither. It may change, but I just haven't seen those characteristics from him.

And I wanted fields to be the pick after they traded up.

Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

What gets me is that the entire Field's QB class is playing every week. Doing some good, some bad, but playing and learning. Maybe they'll be winners and have a future. We have a #3 pick that doesn't get to the field. I know injuries, learning the system, etc. etc. It will be three years as a 49er and still we don't know. How long does the clock keep ticking.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

Cause people accept Trevor's team is crap. While Fields needs to elevate his team to a winner and he can't so therefore he's a bust.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

they were all looking like hot garbage earlier in the year. ''The next generation of future HOF qbs!''

Fields is a fast runner but I'm not a fan of the always scrambling and running qb. One ACL tear or injury will make them rely on their accuracy and then what?

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

they were all looking like hot garbage earlier in the year. ''The next generation of future HOF qbs!''

Fields is a fast runner but I'm not a fan of the always scrambling and running qb. One ACL tear or injury will make them rely on their accuracy and then what?

Yesterday he had more runs than passes. He's going to need to learn to wait a little longer before taking off. We'll see what happens if and when he gets a couple more receivers. Claypool is a start.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

they were all looking like hot garbage earlier in the year. ''The next generation of future HOF qbs!''

Fields is a fast runner but I'm not a fan of the always scrambling and running qb. One ACL tear or injury will make them rely on their accuracy and then what?

He still has to work on his passing game that's for sure but he's been doing whatever he can to put his team in a position to be competitive. Partially by accepting he isn't a drop back and pass QB. He missed a lay up TD but the previous week had an amazing pass for a TD. He needs to work on being more consistent in the passing game. If he does that he will be a even bigger pain in the ass to defend.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

they were all looking like hot garbage earlier in the year. ''The next generation of future HOF qbs!''

Fields is a fast runner but I'm not a fan of the always scrambling and running qb. One ACL tear or injury will make them rely on their accuracy and then what?

He still has to work on his passing game that's for sure but he's been doing whatever he can to put his team in a position to be competitive. Partially by accepting he isn't a drop back and pass QB. He missed a lay up TD but the previous week had an amazing pass for a TD. He needs to work on being more consistent in the passing game. If he does that he will be a even bigger pain in the ass to defend.

I find it strange how everyone seems to praise Fields for his running but were all so concerned that Kyle was running Lance too much. The day of the classic drop back QB are gone. QBs now make plays however they can. In Field's case all he can do is run but that will have to change. You can't run more than you pass and expect to last very long. It's one thing to run 6 or 7 times a game . Eighteen is too many.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

they were all looking like hot garbage earlier in the year. ''The next generation of future HOF qbs!''

Fields is a fast runner but I'm not a fan of the always scrambling and running qb. One ACL tear or injury will make them rely on their accuracy and then what?

He still has to work on his passing game that's for sure but he's been doing whatever he can to put his team in a position to be competitive. Partially by accepting he isn't a drop back and pass QB. He missed a lay up TD but the previous week had an amazing pass for a TD. He needs to work on being more consistent in the passing game. If he does that he will be a even bigger pain in the ass to defend.

I find it strange how everyone seems to praise Fields for his running but were all so concerned that Kyle was running Lance too much. The day of the classic drop back QB are gone. QBs now make plays however they can. In Field's case all he can do is run but that will have to change. You can't run more than you pass and expect to last very long. It's one thing to run 6 or 7 times a game . Eighteen is too many.

Fields is a gifted runner I don't think it's a dig at Lance to say he's clearly better in that facet of his game. But our collective belief was that Lance was the better passer but when he was healthy we were running him more than the Bears ran Fields which kinda spits on that notion he's the better passer. The Fields is gonna get hurt crowd can take a victory lap now that Fields hurt his shoulder and hamstring in this game though.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Fields is a gifted runner I don't think it's a dig at Lance to say he's clearly better in that facet of his game. But our collective belief was that Lance was the better passer but when he was healthy we were running him more than the Bears ran Fields which kinda spits on that notion he's the better passer. The Fields is gonna get hurt crowd can take a victory lap now that Fields hurt his shoulder and hamstring in this game though.

For the record Lance has 71 passing attempts and 38 runs. Fields has been running almost as much as he passes the last 3 games. He's running more now than he was when he first came into the league. It's supposed to be the other way around.

I'm sure Chicago is going to try and surround him with help but will they be able to do it. They've had such a poor record of drafting offensive help over the years. If they do then Fields will need to learn to actually pass instead of taking off on every other play.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Love how people wanna still rag on Fields in his 2nd year and 1st year in a new offense. If this dude was on the Niners people would be talking about how much bigger our trophy case needs to be. But yeah he threw some ugly passes this Sunday. Luckily our QB hasn't ever done that….

Correct. Next year is where I will start to judge him as far as winning more games. the team has very little offensive talent and the guy is progressing every week. What's really weird is how Trevor Lawerence seems to skate around all the criticism all these other your qb's are getting from this class.

they were all looking like hot garbage earlier in the year. ''The next generation of future HOF qbs!''

Fields is a fast runner but I'm not a fan of the always scrambling and running qb. One ACL tear or injury will make them rely on their accuracy and then what?

He still has to work on his passing game that's for sure but he's been doing whatever he can to put his team in a position to be competitive. Partially by accepting he isn't a drop back and pass QB. He missed a lay up TD but the previous week had an amazing pass for a TD. He needs to work on being more consistent in the passing game. If he does that he will be a even bigger pain in the ass to defend.

I find it strange how everyone seems to praise Fields for his running but were all so concerned that Kyle was running Lance too much. The day of the classic drop back QB are gone. QBs now make plays however they can. In Field's case all he can do is run but that will have to change. You can't run more than you pass and expect to last very long. It's one thing to run 6 or 7 times a game . Eighteen is too many.

The vast majority of that criticism is from clueless fans on this site or local guys. I don't recall the national media dogging KS or Lance for running.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Fields is a gifted runner I don't think it's a dig at Lance to say he's clearly better in that facet of his game. But our collective belief was that Lance was the better passer but when he was healthy we were running him more than the Bears ran Fields which kinda spits on that notion he's the better passer. The Fields is gonna get hurt crowd can take a victory lap now that Fields hurt his shoulder and hamstring in this game though.

For the record Lance has 71 passing attempts and 38 runs. Fields has been running almost as much as he passes the last 3 games. He's running more now than he was when he first came into the league. It's supposed to be the other way around.

I'm sure Chicago is going to try and surround him with help but will they be able to do it. They've had such a poor record of drafting offensive help over the years. If they do then Fields will need to learn to actually pass instead of taking off on every other play.

Fields went to the coaches and told them he wanted to run more for a few reasons. He said he was sick of losing I'm guessing it's also cause he wasn't able to pass effectively. The coaching staff obliged and the results have been pretty good considering how horrible they were previously. They are still losing but Fields has been much more productive. And this is why I think Kyle was running Lance a lot it was to be as productive as possible.

Originally posted by lamontb:
The vast majority of that criticism is from clueless fans on this site or local guys. I don't recall the national media dogging KS or Lance for running.

Probably true but there are still some who think the QB shouldn't run unless he's forced to. QBs are bigger and faster than ever now so it makes sense to try and take advantage of that skill. So many come from read option offenses in college that it's often hard to turn them into a pure pocket passer.

The hard thing for these young mobile QBs is knowing when to run. We sw a few times with Lance where he looked tentative. That may have been because he is just so inexperienced but you have to be decisive. The players in the NFL are so fast that even a 300 lb lineman can run you down if you hesitate at all.