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Sep 12, 2023 at 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fields looked awful yesterday. Had a couple nice scrambles but that was it. As a thrower, Love looked much much better.


PFF is a joke. Warner was given a low grade lmao

So your opinion is better than theirs.

So in your opinion he outperformed Love?
Sep 12, 2023 at 10:28 PM
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fields looked awful yesterday. Had a couple nice scrambles but that was it. As a thrower, Love looked much much better.


PFF is a joke. Warner was given a low grade lmao

Warner was targeted 8 times and gave up 6 catches for 70 yards . And missed some tackles

Love had a higher passing grade than Fields. Fields overall grade was almost the same as Love. Fields does a lot of non passing things that boost your grade ( efficient runs, blocks etc )

Warner played a very good game.

Im sure the Tiktoks for Warner were off the chain

Did you even watch the game? You're arguing the dumbest s**t right now lol. Defense was great and so was Warner, especially how he set the tone early on. They had 1 first down in the first half. Stop this nonsense
Sep 13, 2023 at 4:27 AM
The conversation in here went from he's the next great QB to is he better than Jordan Love..
Sep 13, 2023 at 4:36 AM
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fields looked awful yesterday. Had a couple nice scrambles but that was it. As a thrower, Love looked much much better.


PFF is a joke. Warner was given a low grade lmao

Warner was targeted 8 times and gave up 6 catches for 70 yards . And missed some tackles

Love had a higher passing grade than Fields. Fields overall grade was almost the same as Love. Fields does a lot of non passing things that boost your grade ( efficient runs, blocks etc )

Warner played a very good game.

Im sure the Tiktoks for Warner were off the chain

Did you even watch the game? You're arguing the dumbest s**t right now lol. Defense was great and so was Warner, especially how he set the tone early on. They had 1 first down in the first half. Stop this nonsense

"No body gives a f**k about the plays I can't see down field or on TikTok/ sports center "
-Gore

and total team defense rating was good
[ Edited by blizzuntz on Sep 13, 2023 at 4:53 AM ]
Sep 13, 2023 at 6:42 AM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fields looked awful yesterday. Had a couple nice scrambles but that was it. As a thrower, Love looked much much better.


Cool. PFF isnt just judging his throwing.

3/13 on 3rd
1 TD and 1 INT

Meh
Sep 13, 2023 at 7:03 AM
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fields looked awful yesterday. Had a couple nice scrambles but that was it. As a thrower, Love looked much much better.


PFF is a joke. Warner was given a low grade lmao

Warner was targeted 8 times and gave up 6 catches for 70 yards . And missed some tackles

Love had a higher passing grade than Fields. Fields overall grade was almost the same as Love. Fields does a lot of non passing things that boost your grade ( efficient runs, blocks etc )

Warner played a very good game.

Im sure the Tiktoks for Warner were off the chain

Did you even watch the game? You're arguing the dumbest s**t right now lol. Defense was great and so was Warner, especially how he set the tone early on. They had 1 first down in the first half. Stop this nonsense

"No body gives a f**k about the plays I can't see down field or on TikTok/ sports center "
-Gore

and total team defense rating was good

again Warren had 5 receptions for 12 yards
Najee had 2 receptions for 2 yards and
Pat had 1 reception for 3 yards

he had a few pass breakups, was responsible for tipping the ball for an int, had 8 tackles, and was all over the field. I fail to see where he missed up down the field when they had 240 total yards and not an exaggeration literally all of it in garbage time (they had 1 yard when the score was 20-0)
[ Edited by ritz126 on Sep 13, 2023 at 7:04 AM ]
Sep 13, 2023 at 7:17 AM
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fields looked awful yesterday. Had a couple nice scrambles but that was it. As a thrower, Love looked much much better.


PFF is a joke. Warner was given a low grade lmao

Warner was targeted 8 times and gave up 6 catches for 70 yards . And missed some tackles

Love had a higher passing grade than Fields. Fields overall grade was almost the same as Love. Fields does a lot of non passing things that boost your grade ( efficient runs, blocks etc )

Warner played a very good game.

Im sure the Tiktoks for Warner were off the chain

Did you even watch the game? You're arguing the dumbest s**t right now lol. Defense was great and so was Warner, especially how he set the tone early on. They had 1 first down in the first half. Stop this nonsense

"No body gives a f**k about the plays I can't see down field or on TikTok/ sports center "
-Gore

and total team defense rating was good

again Warren had 5 receptions for 12 yards
Najee had 2 receptions for 2 yards and
Pat had 1 reception for 3 yards

he had a few pass breakups, was responsible for tipping the ball for an int, had 8 tackles, and was all over the field. I fail to see where he missed up down the field when they had 240 total yards and not an exaggeration literally all of it in garbage time (they had 1 yard when the score was 20-0)

Some people just don't understand football and just look at PFF
Sep 13, 2023 at 7:58 AM
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Fields looked awful yesterday. Had a couple nice scrambles but that was it. As a thrower, Love looked much much better.


PFF is a joke. Warner was given a low grade lmao

Warner was targeted 8 times and gave up 6 catches for 70 yards . And missed some tackles

Love had a higher passing grade than Fields. Fields overall grade was almost the same as Love. Fields does a lot of non passing things that boost your grade ( efficient runs, blocks etc )

Warner played a very good game.

Im sure the Tiktoks for Warner were off the chain

Did you even watch the game? You're arguing the dumbest s**t right now lol. Defense was great and so was Warner, especially how he set the tone early on. They had 1 first down in the first half. Stop this nonsense

"No body gives a f**k about the plays I can't see down field or on TikTok/ sports center "
-Gore

and total team defense rating was good

again Warren had 5 receptions for 12 yards
Najee had 2 receptions for 2 yards and
Pat had 1 reception for 3 yards

he had a few pass breakups, was responsible for tipping the ball for an int, had 8 tackles, and was all over the field. I fail to see where he missed up down the field when they had 240 total yards and not an exaggeration literally all of it in garbage time (they had 1 yard when the score was 20-0)

So when he plays zone and a WR gets underneath his zone wide open ..... who cares ?

when he dropped that INT , he let the WR get under the zone , WR was open for a first down but Pickett under pressure under threw it (that's why Warner almost got an INT because he was behind the WR ) .

Warner doesn't get credit for an off target throw by Pickett . The defender putting the pressure on Pickett does .
Sep 13, 2023 at 8:07 AM
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
So when he plays zone and a WR gets underneath his zone wide open ..... who cares ?

when he dropped that INT , he let the WR get under the zone , WR was open for a first down but Pickett under pressure under threw it (that's why Warner almost got an INT because he was behind the WR ) .

Warner doesn't get credit for an off target throw by Pickett . The defender putting the pressure on Pickett does .
uh thats a LB job when playing coverage and allow a tight window and not allow the WR above him.

Are they evaluating him as a corner because that might be the issue in their formula?

edit: I just saw the clip It was a 3-4 yard pass 11 yards short of the stick. Dude if you want to die on the hill that's up to you but the fact you thought that was a bad play AND you thought that was a first down lol I have no words
[ Edited by ritz126 on Sep 13, 2023 at 8:11 AM ]
Sep 13, 2023 at 8:12 AM
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
So when he plays zone and a WR gets underneath his zone wide open ..... who cares ?

when he dropped that INT , he let the WR get under the zone , WR was open for a first down but Pickett under pressure under threw it (that's why Warner almost got an INT because he was behind the WR ) .

Warner doesn't get credit for an off target throw by Pickett . The defender putting the pressure on Pickett does .
uh thats a LB job when playing coverage and allow a tight window and not allow the WR above him.

Are they evaluating him as a corner because that might be the issue in their formula

What I'm saying is , we see real time playing and the results. PFF is seeing the whole field and evaluating every player every play in slow motion for the whole game .

I don't know how they scored that play , but if Picket was on target and he catches it's a 3rd down conversion and it was Warners guy .

edit : just saw your edit , I was just making an example of
how what we see is great but the film review might be other wise . (That play I mentioned might not be the best )
[ Edited by blizzuntz on Sep 13, 2023 at 8:15 AM ]
Sep 13, 2023 at 8:15 AM
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[ Edited by ritz126 on Sep 13, 2023 at 8:16 AM ]
Sep 13, 2023 at 10:13 AM
Originally posted by ritz126:
a lot of PFF defenders here if you think Fields had a better game then Love your QB evaluation skills are awful

Pretty much. They had Baker Mayfield as their #5 qb. But maybe we're just not factoring in the big time throw %. PFF is a joke and just rates things however they want. And it's OK using on some of the harder positions to judge were there's no stats but qb is pretty straight forward.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Sep 13, 2023 at 10:14 AM ]
Sep 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Some people just don't understand football and just look at PFF

I never look at PFF. For a very good reason.
Sep 13, 2023 at 11:13 AM
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

never a good sign when JTO takes you to school for an hour
Sep 13, 2023 at 11:14 AM
This PFF stuff all started because I made the comment that Love looked better as a thrower, and someone responded with a PFF score....which in no way refutes my claim.
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