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- DRCHOWDER
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- Jcool
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Disclaimer: For my next video I fully intended on breaking down Justin Fields and the #Bears and blaming Fields for the horrendous outing I watched unfold on my TV. After watching the film, it's very hard for me to blame Fields and having been in this spot myself, I wish I had…
— Kyle Sloter (@KyleSloter) September 27, 2023
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yeah you have, you just don't remember. The much discussed Martz piece he did after the SF CHI game.. that was a piece also for 33rd team. He nailed both these QBs a long time ago. I agree with him that JF needs to sit down. I thought JF would be playing better by now but I was wrong.
You being wrong on Qbs is a constant on this board
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yeah you have, you just don't remember. The much discussed Martz piece he did after the SF CHI game.. that was a piece also for 33rd team. He nailed both these QBs a long time ago. I agree with him that JF needs to sit down. I thought JF would be playing better by now but I was wrong.
You being wrong on Qbs is a constant on this board
I'd say I'm as right/wrong as anyone else
Like anyone there are hits and misses, it ain't the end of the world
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Disclaimer: For my next video I fully intended on breaking down Justin Fields and the #Bears and blaming Fields for the horrendous outing I watched unfold on my TV. After watching the film, it's very hard for me to blame Fields and having been in this spot myself, I wish I had…
— Kyle Sloter (@KyleSloter) September 27, 2023
And again that goes back to that joke of an organization.
The only question is are their offensive concepts bland and predictable because they feel Fields is that dull of learning? Or are they bland and predictable because they just shouldn't even have their jobs? And then add to it apparently guys not named Justin Fields who aren't able to run their part of the offense correctly, well it would clearly seem to be just a complete mess in Chicago.
Kinda sad really because they are kind of a historic franchise and growing up watching football in the 80s with that Monsters of the Midway defense and Walter Payton, even Neal Anderson after him was a pretty good back for a while. Now pretty much their whole team and organization is a joke.
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Disclaimer: For my next video I fully intended on breaking down Justin Fields and the #Bears and blaming Fields for the horrendous outing I watched unfold on my TV. After watching the film, it's very hard for me to blame Fields and having been in this spot myself, I wish I had…
— Kyle Sloter (@KyleSloter) September 27, 2023
Pretty simple. Organization sucks and he sucks . Not a great combo
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Pretty simple. Organization sucks and he sucks . Not a great combo
Put in Nathan Peterman, let's see what happens
- OhioNiner
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Disclaimer: For my next video I fully intended on breaking down Justin Fields and the #Bears and blaming Fields for the horrendous outing I watched unfold on my TV. After watching the film, it's very hard for me to blame Fields and having been in this spot myself, I wish I had…
— Kyle Sloter (@KyleSloter) September 27, 2023
Pretty simple. Organization sucks and he sucks . Not a great combo
I still hardly think he sucks. Not to say none of it's on him but he beat out Trevor Lawrence in the Elite 11 QB camp and outplayed him in the college football playoff in 2020. Also ran an offense pretty dang well in 2019 that has generated three first round QB's. I know Haskins looked like an airhead and no unfortunately we won't know if he could have turned it around or not. Hopefully Stroud continues to play look this if for no other reason people don't continue to mindlessly think every NFL QB from Ohio State is destined to be a bust.
Fields certainly sucks right now. He also would not be the first young QB thrown into the meat grinder in a pretty much hopeless situation who's chewed up and spit out.. It's amazing how some organizations just seem to never get it right almost literally for decades. We're actually fairly fortunate in that even in our lean years and times we built things back up to where we were once again at or near the top of the NFC. Chicago hasn't been able to say that most years. Again Cleveland, Detroit, the Jets- the Bengals for years and years. For as frustrating as things have been at times and as much as some of us can whine and act spoiled we could have had it far far worse.
- LayTheWoodall
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Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Kinda sad really because they are kind of a historic franchise and growing up watching football in the 80s with that Monsters of the Midway defense and Walter Payton, even Neal Anderson after him was a pretty good back for a while. Now pretty much their whole team and organization is a joke.
I agree with this.. the past 25 or so years have been rough on some of the historic franchises like the bears, redskins, Raiders. Meanwhile the Bucs, saints, Seahawks have all won. I think the league is better when the bears are good (urlacher years circa 2005-2006 especially). It also bugs me when historically s**te franchises turn it around and actually win (seattle)
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yeah you have, you just don't remember. The much discussed Martz piece he did after the SF CHI game.. that was a piece also for 33rd team. He nailed both these QBs a long time ago. I agree with him that JF needs to sit down. I thought JF would be playing better by now but I was wrong.
Let me try to put this a different way, since you didnt seem to understand (or find any value in) what I said about Martz following a script.
If I was analyzing the 2016 and 2017 NFL drafts and my analysis on QBs was:
Jared Goff: I expect him to be one of the greatest QBs of all time
Carson Wentz: I expect him to be one of the greatest QBs of all time
Paxton Lynch: I expect him to be one of the greatest QBs of all time
Mitch Trubisky: I expect him to be one of the greatest QBs of all time
Deshaun Watson: I expect him to be one of the greatest QBs of all time
Pat Mahomes: I expect him to be one of the greatest QBs of all time
Would I get credit for predicting Mahomes to be one of the greatest QBs of all time? No, of course not. Having the same analysis on every single player and it being correct once (or in the Fields/Lance situation twice), is not worthy of praise. Its saying the same s**t about every player and it being accurate a couple of times.
And you are right. I dont remember 33rd team, because its an irrelevant media outlet. Just like Martz analysis in 2023....irrelevant.
- Jcool
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Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Kinda sad really because they are kind of a historic franchise and growing up watching football in the 80s with that Monsters of the Midway defense and Walter Payton, even Neal Anderson after him was a pretty good back for a while. Now pretty much their whole team and organization is a joke.
I agree with this.. the past 25 or so years have been rough on some of the historic franchises like the bears, redskins, Raiders. Meanwhile the Bucs, saints, Seahawks have all won. I think the league is better when the bears are good (urlacher years circa 2005-2006 especially). It also bugs me when historically s**te franchises turn it around and actually win (seattle)
Since 1990 the Bears are 247-286 (46%) with 5 playoff wins. For comparison the 49ers are 293-239-1 (55%) with 21 playoff wins over that same time & Detroit is 212-319-2 (39%) with 1 playoff win.
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Justin Fields, elite 🎯 pic.twitter.com/92zG3PB7nb
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- Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:AYO WHOOOOOOS MANS IS THIS?
Justin Fields, elite 🎯 pic.twitter.com/92zG3PB7nb
— NFL Retweet (@NFLRT) September 29, 2023
Coaching is the problem
- Jcool
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Justin Fields so far today:
— PFF (@PFF) October 1, 2023
🐻 9/9
🐻 139 passing yards
🐻 2 passing TDs
🐻 158.3 passer rating pic.twitter.com/jAfNH7zlCi