Prayers for Damar Hamlin

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:

Originally posted by barrymartin:
Your logic is sound if if was myocarditis that was in process. Then there would have been symptoms during warm up...Granted...However, many athletes have and are dying on the field, mostly in other countries...69 died in one month at the end of 2021 when Vaxxing was near its peak. Here's an article that corroborates it..
https://dpbh.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/dpbhnvgov/content/Boards/BOH/Meetings/2021/Public%20Comments%20324%20to%20328.pdf

That first link appears to be a copy-and-paste job sent via email, so I Googled a small part of the text, and let's just say that the actual editorial and the website of origination is extremely questionable or even doubtful at best.

New England Journal recently did a study and none of the myocarditis cases from the vaccine lead to death. The likelihood of myocarditis from the vaccine is low. This case is unlikely to be myocarditis as well.

You know what causes a LOT of myocarditis? Covid.

A lot of people want to blame every myocarditis case on the vaccine when the vast majority were actually from catching the virus before or even after getting a shot.

I see people online all the time claiming the shot gave them this or that, all because they developed it after getting the vaccine. But, if 300 million people get a vaccine, a lot of them are going to develop everything in the book shortly after just because they were going to anyway.

But to the point, if Hamlin had myocarditis he wouldn't have been capable of playing a season in the NFL without the team noticing.

Correct. Data from China early on suggested that arrhythmia from myocarditis was common cause of death. The risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is about 1 in 500,000. Its much higher in covid infection.

Gez, even this thread has been infected.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by bsyde82:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I can't imagine what life is like for people who actually think this is vaccine related.

It's actually nice to critically think. To dismiss out of hand the possibility of any relation to the vaccine is just pure ignorance. You all acting like this happens all the time in the NFL when it has literally never happened. It could be a one in a billion chance hit, or it could be heart complications that made him more vulnerable to this super rare event. What am I saying here that is so unreasonable? I don't know what happened, like all of you, but the facts that we do know begs questions.

You want to put all vax-skeptical people in the same boat, that's fine. But I don't speak for any others, and opinions range broadly. There should be room for discussion without instantly accusing people of being Q anon or whatever.

So then why aren't you critically thinking yourself?

why don't you look up literature on its prevalence / incidence?
then look up what the common age group it happens in .

Then extrapolate what percentage of NFL plays make up for all the football plays in the country (college , HS , pee wee etc )

then you may see how rare this is

This is the point I was making in my post earlier. Since the NFL became a thing, there have only been around 16k games played. Sounds like a lot but when you consider that if each state has 100 HS teams that play a 10 game season (some are lower and some a WAY higher.... You end up with with 25k games a year at the HS level. So one season of HS football in the US has way more games than 50+ years of NFL football. Not to mention College at every level, JV, JR High, little leagues, and semi-pro games.

I think my estimates are low for actual HS games a year. So, you can pretty much assume that there are more HS games in any given year then there have ever been NFL games in the entierty of history. It probably more by 10s of thousands of games. Now, NFL games are significantly longer and have more plays per game than most HS games, but there are still going to be thousands of more HS plays per season than ever in the NFL. So, anything that happens one every year or two at the HS level we should expect to see once every 50 years or so in the NFL.

The part they'll never understand though, is that the odds of that injury happening last night are exactly the same as them having happened in any other NFL game ever. They are also the same as it happening again this weekend.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Gez, even this thread has been infected.

yeah it's sad. Somebody has to bring in science because somebody else brought in youtube.

Here's the video to my post on Pg 9. Damar Hamlin's explanation and 2 Doctor's perspectives.

Wtf in this thread? 😐
" It's the vaccines!"

TL;DR

He got hit in the chest at the worst possible time and jolted his heart to fail. He might also have had an underlying condition as well.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Wtf in this thread? 😐
" It's the vaccines!"

TL;DR

He got hit in the chest at the worst possible time and jolted his heart to fail. He might also have had an underlying condition as well.

that underlying condition is........the vaccine

I have tremendous respect for Dan and ESPN for this, putting words truly into action with regard to praying for Hamlin.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRbVs9Re/

Originally posted by Negrodamus:


Here's the video to my post on Pg 9. Damar Hamlin's explanation and 2 Doctor's perspectives.

Since the incident happened, I've been looking for any legitimate update(s).
I came here to post this clip, and I'm glad someone else found it and has
done so.

I think, and pray that he'll pull through - even though he isn't breathing on his
own - seeing as he basically died twice. Hopefully his body will continue to fight
and heal, as the medical staff assists in his recovery 🙏🏾

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Thanks to both of you, again, for this insight and information.

Who says lawyers and doctors are natural enemies?

Actually, given blizz's posts, maybe it should be dentists and lawyers....

Lawyers are natural enemies to everyone

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Thanks to both of you, again, for this insight and information.

Who says lawyers and doctors are natural enemies?

Actually, given blizz's posts, maybe it should be dentists and lawyers....

Lawyers are natural enemies to everyone

Not of rich clients.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I have tremendous respect for Dan and ESPN for this, putting words truly into action with regard to praying for Hamlin.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRbVs9Re/

Thanx -
I don't TikTok … yet as I read through some of the comments I fell into agreement with them.
I'm actually shocked ESPN didn't cut away to a commercial break or resort to something
of that nature !?

It's as if for a moment we went back to a different place and space it time, re: unscripted prayer
on TV while not being on a religious channel/network …

He seems like a good kid too. Many prayer sent so far by me and mine.

Originally posted by FlayvaMeister:
Thanx -
I don't TikTok … yet as I read through some of the comments I fell into agreement with them.
I'm actually shocked ESPN didn't cut away to a commercial break or resort to something
of that nature !?

It's as if for a moment we went back to a different place and space it time, re: unscripted prayer
on TV while not being on a religious channel/network …

The way I see it he wanted to express himself through prayer so he did no different from anyone else expressing themselves without being vulgar or disrespectful. He felt on his heart to pray some to cry some to do whatever but so long as you aren't disrespectful or callous then I'm cool with it. Pray to whoever you want to pray to so long as you're well wishing on this young man

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