Prayers for Damar Hamlin

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Such an awful thing to happen. Sounds like he'll likely pull through but I think his career has got to be over. On one hand, if I was the player I would have wanted the game to go on, but on the other hand I don't want my brothers to have to play in that state or mind.

CC is a serious thing.

Depends on how long he was in cardiac arrest before being revived. Hopefully minimal long term damage.

Well it took 9 minutes of CPR and a defibrillator to get his pulse back. Not sure if that's permanent damage or not.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by WINiner:
Sounds like he likely had a heart condition of some sort? Hearing he essentially had a heart attack on the field?

I almost hope he had some sort of precondition. At least that would provide an explanation and perhaps somehow be preventable (detected) in the future for other players. If Hamlin had no precondition and this is just a total fluke, that's more scary because it could happen again, to any player, at any time.
Wishing him a speedy recovery with no after effects.

Scary AF either way.

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Such an awful thing to happen. Sounds like he'll likely pull through but I think his career has got to be over. On one hand, if I was the player I would have wanted the game to go on, but on the other hand I don't want my brothers to have to play in that state or mind.

CC is a serious thing.

Hopefully he will be ok and will walk away from the game. There is something of an overreaction going on though. Since 1983 I have seen or can recollect two guys getting crippled by the sport, including one 49er. I can only recollect one 49er dying as a result of the game. Suicide, drugs and road traffic accidents, on the other hand, have taken quite a swathe of players.

I applaud everything that is being done to make the game safer. But, with one eye on the long term medical effects in general ,this one looks like a one-off. I hope he recovers.

Wish him and his family well. That's one of the bad results of the game of Football. Hope he walks out of the Hospital sooner rather than later. God bless.

I'll get flamed for this, but I think it's fair to ask questions considering this has literally never happened before in the history of the NFL. We know these players go through extreme testing to weed out heart and other health issues so the possibility of him having some undiagnosed pre-existing heart condition seems unlikely. It's fair and worth it to ask questions IMO because JUST IN CASE it has something to do with effects caused by the vaccine, then the health and lives of lots of players are at stake.

I'm no doctor, which is why I want to ask questions. I have seen enough reports about young men getting myocarditis after the vax and I know that condition impacts the heart. What I would want to know is, if someone develops myocarditis, does that make them more vulnerable to super rare events like commotio cordis? Because that would be chilling, especially for the players.

Originally posted by bsyde82:
I'll get flamed for this, but I think it's fair to ask questions considering this has literally never happened before in the history of the NFL. We know these players go through extreme testing to weed out heart and other health issues so the possibility of him having some undiagnosed pre-existing heart condition seems unlikely. It's fair and worth it to ask questions IMO because JUST IN CASE it has something to do with effects caused by the vaccine, then the health and lives of lots of players are at stake.

I'm no doctor, which is why I want to ask questions. I have seen enough reports about young men getting myocarditis after the vax and I know that condition impacts the heart. What I would want to know is, if someone develops myocarditis, does that make them more vulnerable to super rare events like commotio cordis? Because that would be chilling, especially for the players.

this doctor explains it in very easy language to understand how it's not the vaccine . He even gives examples of this happening to other athlete pre COVID .

Originally posted by bsyde82:
I'll get flamed for this, but I think it's fair to ask questions considering this has literally never happened before in the history of the NFL. We know these players go through extreme testing to weed out heart and other health issues so the possibility of him having some undiagnosed pre-existing heart condition seems unlikely. It's fair and worth it to ask questions IMO because JUST IN CASE it has something to do with effects caused by the vaccine, then the health and lives of lots of players are at stake.

I'm no doctor, which is why I want to ask questions. I have seen enough reports about young men getting myocarditis after the vax and I know that condition impacts the heart. What I would want to know is, if someone develops myocarditis, does that make them more vulnerable to super rare events like commotio cordis? Because that would be chilling, especially for the players.

1998...no covid vaccine

Took a shot to his chest and he shut down like a robot approx. 8 seconds later

This is new to you...it isnt new to medical professionals

Anyone know if he was dealing with conditions like chest pain before the game that he wasn't telling the team?

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by bsyde82:
I'll get flamed for this, but I think it's fair to ask questions considering this has literally never happened before in the history of the NFL. We know these players go through extreme testing to weed out heart and other health issues so the possibility of him having some undiagnosed pre-existing heart condition seems unlikely. It's fair and worth it to ask questions IMO because JUST IN CASE it has something to do with effects caused by the vaccine, then the health and lives of lots of players are at stake.

I'm no doctor, which is why I want to ask questions. I have seen enough reports about young men getting myocarditis after the vax and I know that condition impacts the heart. What I would want to know is, if someone develops myocarditis, does that make them more vulnerable to super rare events like commotio cordis? Because that would be chilling, especially for the players.

Damar Hamlin

Suffered a cardiac arrest likely due to #commotiocordis.

Some important things to note:

1. Commotio cordis occurs when an object, usually a baseball, hits the chest well.

2. This has to happen at an exact spot in the cardiac cycle (T wave).

(1/) pic.twitter.com/IV8Bw6ITZY

— Jesse Morse, MD (@DrJesseMorse) January 3, 2023

this doctor explains it in very easy language to understand how it's not the vaccine . He even gives examples of this happening to other athlete pre COVID .

Thanks. Isn't the simple fix to increase chest protection in that area via a substance that dissipates and spreads the impact?

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by bsyde82:
I'll get flamed for this, but I think it's fair to ask questions considering this has literally never happened before in the history of the NFL. We know these players go through extreme testing to weed out heart and other health issues so the possibility of him having some undiagnosed pre-existing heart condition seems unlikely. It's fair and worth it to ask questions IMO because JUST IN CASE it has something to do with effects caused by the vaccine, then the health and lives of lots of players are at stake.

I'm no doctor, which is why I want to ask questions. I have seen enough reports about young men getting myocarditis after the vax and I know that condition impacts the heart. What I would want to know is, if someone develops myocarditis, does that make them more vulnerable to super rare events like commotio cordis? Because that would be chilling, especially for the players.

Damar Hamlin

Suffered a cardiac arrest likely due to #commotiocordis.

Some important things to note:

1. Commotio cordis occurs when an object, usually a baseball, hits the chest well.

2. This has to happen at an exact spot in the cardiac cycle (T wave).

(1/) pic.twitter.com/IV8Bw6ITZY

— Jesse Morse, MD (@DrJesseMorse) January 3, 2023

this doctor explains it in very easy language to understand how it's not the vaccine . He even gives examples of this happening to other athlete pre COVID .

Thanks. Isn't the simple fix to increase chest protection in that area via a substance that dissipates and spreads the impact?

Baseball catchers with protection have had the same
thing happen to them

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/high-school-baseball-player-thomas-adams-dies-hit-chest-pitch-practice-article-1.469819

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
1998...no covid vaccine

Took a shot to his chest and he shut down like a robot approx. 8 seconds later

This is new to you...it isnt new to medical professionals

Chris Pronger suffered commotio cordis after taking a slap shot to the chest in 1998.

Praying for a similar recovery and outlook for Damar Hamlin…Pronger was back on the ice weeks later and played 12 more seasons en route to the Hockey Hall of Fame. 🙏pic.twitter.com/qYfT8kv66s

— Ryan Clifford (@RyanClifford) January 3, 2023

a direct puck shot to the chest is different from a routine nfl hit

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Damar Hamlin

Suffered a cardiac arrest likely due to #commotiocordis.

Some important things to note:

1. Commotio cordis occurs when an object, usually a baseball, hits the chest well.

2. This has to happen at an exact spot in the cardiac cycle (T wave).

(1/) pic.twitter.com/IV8Bw6ITZY

— Jesse Morse, MD (@DrJesseMorse) January 3, 2023

this doctor explains it in very easy language to understand how it's not the vaccine . He even gives examples of this happening to other athlete pre COVID .

case closed then right?

Why has this literally never happened in the NFL before?

His children's toy drive gofundme has raised near $4 million already. The original goal was $2500.

Originally posted by bsyde82:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Damar Hamlin

Suffered a cardiac arrest likely due to #commotiocordis.

Some important things to note:

1. Commotio cordis occurs when an object, usually a baseball, hits the chest well.

2. This has to happen at an exact spot in the cardiac cycle (T wave).

(1/) pic.twitter.com/IV8Bw6ITZY

— Jesse Morse, MD (@DrJesseMorse) January 3, 2023

this doctor explains it in very easy language to understand how it's not the vaccine . He even gives examples of this happening to other athlete pre COVID .

case closed then right?

Why has this literally never happened in the NFL before?

I'll see if I can find a tweet that dumbs it down a little more for you

Originally posted by bsyde82:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
1998...no covid vaccine

Took a shot to his chest and he shut down like a robot approx. 8 seconds later

This is new to you...it isnt new to medical professionals

Chris Pronger suffered commotio cordis after taking a slap shot to the chest in 1998.

Praying for a similar recovery and outlook for Damar Hamlin…Pronger was back on the ice weeks later and played 12 more seasons en route to the Hockey Hall of Fame. 🙏pic.twitter.com/qYfT8kv66s

— Ryan Clifford (@RyanClifford) January 3, 2023

a direct puck shot to the chest is different from a routine nfl hit

no it isnt

The hit has to be 1) sufficient force and 2) exact perfect timing

Kids getting punched in the chest suffered this as well

If you wanna be a Q anon preacher im gonna keep opposing you