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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This, plus what 49ATT said. Carr has shown to be just as bad at times as Jimmy G. Hell Jimmy G might be even cheaper than Carr and knows the system. The only upside would be that he's been relatively healthy. I view them performance wise most likely the same depending on the day.
Originally posted by dj43:You would rather have JG..? JG has never been on Carrs level. Carr was actually going to be MVP at one time. Jimmy hasn't came close to any accolade.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Lateral move from Garoppolo to Carr. Plus you'd have to trade for him which means giving up compensation. Also he's only 31 so if you trade for him, you're pushing Lance and Purdy out the door for sure.
No trade needed, he has to released or LV is forced to pay 40 mill in two weeks or end of February something like that
$32.9M by 2/15.
They can release him with a buyout of $25M and a cap hit of $6.250M by 2/15.
I would rather have JG.
Originally posted by frenchmov:Carr has all the tools. He's had trouble with trying to win games on his own and it didn't work out.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This, plus what 49ATT said. Carr has shown to be just as bad at times as Jimmy G. Hell Jimmy G might be even cheaper than Carr and knows the system. The only upside would be that he's been relatively healthy. I view them performance wise most likely the same depending on the day.
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:You would rather have JG..? JG has never been on Carrs level. Carr was actually going to be MVP at one time. Jimmy hasn't came close to any accolade.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Lateral move from Garoppolo to Carr. Plus you'd have to trade for him which means giving up compensation. Also he's only 31 so if you trade for him, you're pushing Lance and Purdy out the door for sure.
No trade needed, he has to released or LV is forced to pay 40 mill in two weeks or end of February something like that
$32.9M by 2/15.
They can release him with a buyout of $25M and a cap hit of $6.250M by 2/15.
I would rather have JG.
Originally posted by frenchmov:Carr has all the tools. He's had trouble with trying to win games on his own and it didn't work out.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This, plus what 49ATT said. Carr has shown to be just as bad at times as Jimmy G. Hell Jimmy G might be even cheaper than Carr and knows the system. The only upside would be that he's been relatively healthy. I view them performance wise most likely the same depending on the day.
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
In our system, Carr doesn't need to be the hero. He just needs to a healthy point guard
Originally posted by dj43:afraid of the cap hit ?
The point was to keep JG as a backup rather than pay the price for Carr.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:Fitting.. that the Eagles got the fans to chant that QB drama and now the cause of this recent QB drama
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This, plus what 49ATT said. Carr has shown to be just as bad at times as Jimmy G. Hell Jimmy G might be even cheaper than Carr and knows the system. The only upside would be that he's been relatively healthy. I view them performance wise most likely the same depending on the day.
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
shall we kick the tires on Carr?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
shall we kick the tires on Carr?
Hard to kick tires I imagine he gets a long term deal with fat guarantees.. so you gotta be all in here imo
Originally posted by 9er4lyphe:
The window on winning the SB is shrinking for this team. With Brady retiring, and Rodgers showing no interest in coming here. Why not kick the tires on a vet like Derek Carr? I think a fresh start with a squad ready to go all in will motivate Carr.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This, plus what 49ATT said. Carr has shown to be just as bad at times as Jimmy G. Hell Jimmy G might be even cheaper than Carr and knows the system. The only upside would be that he's been relatively healthy. I view them performance wise most likely the same depending on the day.
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
That's true, but Carr has some of the same tendencies as Jimmy G where his mistakes example int,fumble, miss throw keeps the other teams in the game or even lets them win the game instead of them building a bigger lead or putting the team away. Now I'm not saying hes like this every time but like I mentioned it depends on the day.
heres just some examples:
@ 5:35 in this one.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This, plus what 49ATT said. Carr has shown to be just as bad at times as Jimmy G. Hell Jimmy G might be even cheaper than Carr and knows the system. The only upside would be that he's been relatively healthy. I view them performance wise most likely the same depending on the day.
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
That's true, but Carr has some of the same tendencies as Jimmy G where his mistakes example int,fumble, miss throw keeps the other teams in the game or even lets them win the game instead of them building a bigger lead or putting the team away. Now I'm not saying hes like this every time but like I mentioned it depends on the day.
heres just some examples:
@ 5:35 in this one.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
Not having a defense on your team has nothing to do with your performance as a quarterback against opposing defenses. We weren't talking about wins we were talking about performance and David Carr is not a good quarterback under pressure. He chokes so often and he's always had some great weapons and a very good Oline up until recently.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:same can be said about Stafford Pre-Rams era
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This, plus what 49ATT said. Carr has shown to be just as bad at times as Jimmy G. Hell Jimmy G might be even cheaper than Carr and knows the system. The only upside would be that he's been relatively healthy. I view them performance wise most likely the same depending on the day.
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
That's true, but Carr has some of the same tendencies as Jimmy G where his mistakes example int,fumble, miss throw keeps the other teams in the game or even lets them win the game instead of them building a bigger lead or putting the team away. Now I'm not saying hes like this every time but like I mentioned it depends on the day.
heres just some examples:
@ 5:35 in this one.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Never once in carrs career, not one time, has he had even a decent defense. To speak nothing of our weapons. We'd be NFC sb favs
Not having a defense on your team has nothing to do with your performance as a quarterback against opposing defenses. We weren't talking about wins we were talking about performance and David Carr is not a good quarterback under pressure. He chokes so often and he's always had some great weapons and a very good Oline up until recently.
This part also.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:I don't think Carr is concerned about Money, he wants to win so he can rub it the Raiders face... what better way than to do it in the Red and Gold
Originally posted by 9er4lyphe:
The window on winning the SB is shrinking for this team. With Brady retiring, and Rodgers showing no interest in coming here. Why not kick the tires on a vet like Derek Carr? I think a fresh start with a squad ready to go all in will motivate Carr.
Cap space isn't there.