Super Bowl LVII - First ever Super Bowl to feature two African American Quarterbacks.

I'm so glad we lost to the Eagles, I couldn't stomach losing to the Chiefs again. Let's be honest, the Chiefs would have killed us.

Originally posted by sspiker:
I think you're ignoring the yank/redirection. There's a lot of plays where defenders will hold onto a jersey to keep pace or to orient themselves; but if an official sees a player be yanked, they'll throw a flag. It's particularly noticeable when they are coming out of a break, like this one.

Now, the official has to see it. If the official doesn't see it, then no flag. And I'm sure there's plenty of plays where officials don't see it, which is why defenders may still risk it if they get beat, like Bradberry did.

And even then, there doesn't have to be a redirection for there to be defensive holding. Just the pulling on the jersey is enough.

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I'm so glad we lost to the Eagles, I couldn't stomach losing to the Chiefs again. Let's be honest, the Chiefs would have killed us.

The Chiefs would have beat us. Losing the NFC Championship is kind of better than losing another Super Bowl to the Chiefs. We didn't even lose. We got injured and had no chance.

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I understand it was an insignifocant play that shouldn't have been called. Refs can always pick up a flag. For you to insist that they can't do that is misleading and wrong. Officiating is a discretionary activity that is always subject to review by the referees on the field. It's true in every sport and American football as well

Or, maybe the the defensive player shouldn't grab and yank on an offensive players uniform to the point where the TV cameras can clearly see it. If the TV camera's can see it, the refs are going to see it, and they're taught to pull that flag out if the jersey is pulled.

Per the NFL rulebook, it was holding when the defensive player yanked on the WR's jersey. What's there to pick up? This wasn't an incidental contact play where two players tripped over their feet and went to the ground, and the ref threw a flag for PI. It doesn't matter if the play was insignificant or not, it was holding.

What you're basically saying is that the NFL refs should determine the situation when making calls, whether or not they're correct. Think about how bad that could be. Just because it's the Super Bowl, it shouldn't change what the rules are.

Just like in our game against the Ravens, when Carey Williams wasn't ejected for shoving an official (which is an automatic ejection, the intent doesn't matter). Because it was the Super Bowl, he wasn't ejected, any other game, he would have been.



If you're going to let the situation determine the rules, you might as well not have them.

IIs that how you would describe it? Grab and yank not what happened on the play. Referee should have the discretion to call penalties when they interfere with the result of the play and not call penalties if they have no bearing on the play. Every sport can do that NFL referees can do that as well. And if they can't then we get disasters like this.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I'm so glad we lost to the Eagles, I couldn't stomach losing to the Chiefs again. Let's be honest, the Chiefs would have killed us.

The Chiefs would have beat us. Losing the NFC Championship is kind of better than losing another Super Bowl to the Chiefs. We didn't even lose. We got injured and had no chance.

Well if went into the Super Bowl with no QBs of course we would have lost.

Chiefs have a good OLine but I was not expecting them to stymie that eagles pass rush. That's even considering the Eagles defense was well rested after the first half with the Eagles offense chewing up the clock.

It was a penalty. Would I have preferred it wasnt called there in that situation to give us a dramatic ending? Of course. But its hard to argue a call when the defender clearly grabbed the jersey. Just too bad it ended that way.

I won $600 on SB squares. Thank you Chiefs

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
IIs that how you would describe it? Grab and yank not what happened on the play. Referee should have the discretion to call penalties when they interfere with the result of the play and not call penalties if they have no bearing on the play. Every sport can do that NFL referees can do that as well. And if they can't then we get disasters like this.

You can't say that something won't have a bearing on the play, because everything that happens on the field of play has a bearing on the play.

You're basically saying that you're ok with defensive holding happening on the opposite side of the field where the ball was thrown, but what if that hold prevents the other WR from being in position to block for the WR catching the ball and prevents the offense from making a bigger play.

That's why the rules have to be consistent.

The NFL refs are incompetent (the fact that Boger still is a ref blows my mind), that we can agree on. You're basically arguing that these incompetent refs should be given even more leeway to make calls. They're consistently screw up with the leeway they're given. If anything, I think the NFL needs to tighten up the rule book and make it even harder for refs to screw up calls. This is why the league needs something like a Sky Judge that can overrule the refs on the field (see a perfect example being the Smith catch in the NFC Championship that was incomplete).

Originally posted by SFrush:
Chiefs have a good OLine but I was not expecting them to stymie that eagles pass rush. That's even considering the Eagles defense was well rested after the first half with the Eagles offense chewing up the clock.

KC negated their pass rush in the second half with quick passes. You can't sack the QB if he doesn't have the ball.

The Eagles are really good at getting to the QB when teams didn't use shifts/motions, but they struggled against teams that did a lot of shifts/motions, and KC executed that to perfection.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mattster03:
And the refs swallowed their whistles for the last Niners Play of the SB in 2012... Crabtree got held way worse

Way worse.

sigh

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by SFrush:
Chiefs have a good OLine but I was not expecting them to stymie that eagles pass rush. That's even considering the Eagles defense was well rested after the first half with the Eagles offense chewing up the clock.

KC negated their pass rush in the second half with quick passes. You can't sack the QB if he doesn't have the ball.

The Eagles are really good at getting to the QB when teams didn't use shifts/motions, but they struggled against teams that did a lot of shifts/motions, and KC executed that to perfection.

And this is why shanahan is a loser. It's such a simple concept isn't it.

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
IIs that how you would describe it? Grab and yank not what happened on the play. Referee should have the discretion to call penalties when they interfere with the result of the play and not call penalties if they have no bearing on the play. Every sport can do that NFL referees can do that as well. And if they can't then we get disasters like this.

You can't say that something won't have a bearing on the play, because everything that happens on the field of play has a bearing on the play.

You're basically saying that you're ok with defensive holding happening on the opposite side of the field where the ball was thrown, but what if that hold prevents the other WR from being in position to block for the WR catching the ball and prevents the offense from making a bigger play.

That's why the rules have to be consistent.

The NFL refs are incompetent (the fact that Boger still is a ref blows my mind), that we can agree on. You're basically arguing that these incompetent refs should be given even more leeway to make calls. They're consistently screw up with the leeway they're given. If anything, I think the NFL needs to tighten up the rule book and make it even harder for refs to screw up calls. This is why the league needs something like a Sky Judge that can overrule the refs on the field (see a perfect example being the Smith catch in the NFC Championship that was incomplete).

The momentary interference happened behind the line of scrimmage. This is the poter child for am insignificant infraction that should be ignored. In soccer a referree can dismiss infractions if they are trifling. As this should obviously have been. A terrible unprofessional moment.

Lol I should have put money on this game haha. My prediction score was sorta close I think, I forgot. I think I said 34-27 KC or 34 31 KC. Just glad Eagles lost. Fly Eagles fly saying is so annoying too. 🙄. Bye Eagles bye!!

Even if the refs didn't call holding on that last drive, Eggles still only had a minute and a half to drive down the field with no TOs.

What lost the game mostly for the Eagles was Jalen MVP Hurts fumbling the football trying to be Mike Vick and it turning into six points for the Chiefs. Chiefs also returning a punt all the way to the redzone was clutch as well.