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Originally posted by 9erson3:
Is this the best hire? I really need to read up. Why only one year stint at Browns 2019? I need to go look up their defensive ranking that year. Carolina top five both years he was DC?

After Demeco a little nervous. I wish Vic came over. I do but welcome! Don't mess up.

BUT Vic Fangio is a 3-4 guy not a 4-3...Makes a difference.
Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Is this the best hire? I really need to read up. Why only one year stint at Browns 2019? I need to go look up their defensive ranking that year. Carolina top five both years he was DC?

After Demeco a little nervous. I wish Vic came over. I do but welcome! Don't mess up.

BUT Vic Fangio is a 3-4 guy not a 4-3...Makes a difference.
Also, Freddie Kitchens was the HC that one yr in Cleveland…a bunch of dudes were gone with a new HC hire.
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Originally posted by DrEll:
Love that he has been in the upper tier of teams regarding blitz. With a fast defense I want our guys hitting the QB in the mouth and not giving him time to think.

i really want to blitz more..make qbs fear us
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Love that he has been in the upper tier of teams regarding blitz. With a fast defense I want our guys hitting the QB in the mouth and not giving him time to think.

i really want to blitz more..make qbs fear us

Blitzing can be good or bad. Some teams do it too much and a good QB can take advantage of it. When used properly and at the right time, it can be very effective. It sounds like Wilks is experienced and knows how and when to use it. The Niners have really quick LBs and Hufanfga that can all be used.
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What is KS involvement in the D is he more or less I coach the O, you own the D, Steve? How would you characterize?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
What is KS involvement in the D is he more or less I coach the O, you own the D, Steve? How would you characterize?

Dont let them score more than my O...whatever you guys are cooking on the D, make sure it looks appetizing and edible.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Feb 8, 2023 at 9:25 AM ]
I think coordinators really prove their worth when you how well their squads play when they are not talented or beat up injury-wise. The 49ers have a super talented defense, so he really just needs to not suck. He hasn't last anywhere for very long, but he's been coaching almost 30 years and he's not that old.

How much will he try to change our current scheme?
Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
I think coordinators really prove their worth when you how well their squads play when they are not talented or beat up injury-wise. The 49ers have a super talented defense, so he really just needs to not suck. He hasn't last anywhere for very long, but he's been coaching almost 30 years and he's not that old.

How much will he try to change our current scheme?

Probably not too much but he'll put his flavor on it. I'd expect some additional blitzing and some coverage scheme changes. Upfront will largely be the same I think.
Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
I think coordinators really prove their worth when you how well their squads play when they are not talented or beat up injury-wise. The 49ers have a super talented defense, so he really just needs to not suck. He hasn't last anywhere for very long, but he's been coaching almost 30 years and he's not that old.

How much will he try to change our current scheme?
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It'll be interesting to see if Wilks brings his aggressive blitz mentality. Since Kyle has been HC, the only season that the 49ers seemed to bring the blitz more than "just occasionally" would be 2020 (Saleh, Bosa injured early in the season).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/opp.htm (some sorting will show the 49ers blitz rate at 33.6%, 10th highest). I remember us noticing that Saleh had upped the blitz rate and attributed it to an in-season adjustment since Bosa was out for the year.

I hope that Wilks treats his pressure rate as being gameplan specific. I don't prefer the "we blitz, it's what we do" mentality. Some QBs should not be blitzed, some should be. Wilks should play it accordingly.
Originally posted by thl408:
It'll be interesting to see if Wilks brings his aggressive blitz mentality. Since Kyle has been HC, the only season that the 49ers seemed to bring the blitz more than "just occasionally" would be 2020 (Saleh, Bosa injured early in the season).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/opp.htm (some sorting will show the 49ers blitz rate at 33.6%, 10th highest). I remember us noticing that Saleh had upped the blitz rate and attributed it to an in-season adjustment since Bosa was out for the year.

I hope that Wilks treats his pressure rate as being gameplan specific. I don't prefer the "we blitz, it's what we do" mentality. Some QBs should not be blitzed, some should be. Wilks should play it accordingly.

Good take. I agree.
Originally posted by thl408:
It'll be interesting to see if Wilks brings his aggressive blitz mentality. Since Kyle has been HC, the only season that the 49ers seemed to bring the blitz more than "just occasionally" would be 2020 (Saleh, Bosa injured early in the season).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/opp.htm (some sorting will show the 49ers blitz rate at 33.6%, 10th highest). I remember us noticing that Saleh had upped the blitz rate and attributed it to an in-season adjustment since Bosa was out for the year.

I hope that Wilks treats his pressure rate as being gameplan specific. I don't prefer the "we blitz, it's what we do" mentality. Some QBs should not be blitzed, some should be. Wilks should play it accordingly.

Don't worry my man. Wilks got this.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
I think coordinators really prove their worth when you how well their squads play when they are not talented or beat up injury-wise. The 49ers have a super talented defense, so he really just needs to not suck. He hasn't last anywhere for very long, but he's been coaching almost 30 years and he's not that old.

How much will he try to change our current scheme?

Probably not too much but he'll put his flavor on it. I'd expect some additional blitzing and some coverage scheme changes. Upfront will largely be the same I think.

I agree Jake,

Watching YouTube videos on Wilks's Cover Match system had a lot of examples of inside defenders working inside out and with a low shoulder preference. I have no idea if that is his bread and butter, could have been cherry picked..I have no idea. That is different then what we see week in and week out here. Again, I only had samples to look at, but his Cover Match looked much tighter, and playing low shoulder in those examples tended to come across the receiver to make a play on the ball. Good of that is well interceptions, and the bad could be biting on double moves and if you miss the tackle...big gains.

Right now the 49ers zone stuff looks flat footed, they seem to want to wait as long as possible before they tip their hand on what coverage you are looking at, then make sure they are often behind the target to get a tackle for a short gain. A lot of times you see the defense defending passing lanes and working as a unit to defend passing windows.

With what I saw of Wilks, they want to attack the low shoulder as the receiver breaks on his rout to come across player and attack the ball. They appear to want a defender between the QB and WR/TE/RB.

who knows what he will change, or even can change....but theoretically less soft coverage could get the defense off the field more often on 3rd and 7s if everyone does their job.
Originally posted by thl408:
It'll be interesting to see if Wilks brings his aggressive blitz mentality. Since Kyle has been HC, the only season that the 49ers seemed to bring the blitz more than "just occasionally" would be 2020 (Saleh, Bosa injured early in the season).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/opp.htm (some sorting will show the 49ers blitz rate at 33.6%, 10th highest). I remember us noticing that Saleh had upped the blitz rate and attributed it to an in-season adjustment since Bosa was out for the year.

I hope that Wilks treats his pressure rate as being gameplan specific. I don't prefer the "we blitz, it's what we do" mentality. Some QBs should not be blitzed, some should be. Wilks should play it accordingly.

This. We haven't blitzed as much historically (Lord Fangio didn't send them much either) because we've been able to generate pressure with 4. If we do send it more often I'd like it to be a result of something they see in film. Until or unless we get better CB's our secondary needs all the help they can get.
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