Coach - Steve Wilks thread

Originally posted by ninersporvida:
Seriously, one to wonder why Wilks was hired in the first place, there were plenty of other candidates who were as qualified or better, this is taking me back to the 2011 season all over again

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I supported Saleh & Ryans when the D had some struggles in some stretches, but this feels monstrously different. I can't support Wilks based on what I've seen. It's not an issue of a few calls I didn't like, it's total team collapse on defense.

Guys are fundamentally unprepared, the scheme has them constantly out of position, and myself as a football intellectual but not an NFL coach am so easily able to point out severe issues pre-snap almost all game for the past two weeks. The play-calling has been horrific.

This team has never looked like this. We have far superior talent than we did under Ryans and Saleh now, and the amount of WTF mistakes and astonishingly bad play calls and situational incompetence is absolutely unconscionable. His scheme is a terrible transition away from what we did best. This isn't growing pains of a rookie DC, this is just flat out ineptitude.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's called reality, I'm not gonna say a hire is a bad hire after 5 good weeks and 1 or 2 (or 3) bad ones

Try 3 good weeks and 5 bad ones. Because the Rams and Cards weren't talented enough to exploit the issues doesn't mean things were good.

99 yard drive to Cards.

That's much closer to reality maybe a little generous.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's called reality, I'm not gonna say a hire is a bad hire after 5 good weeks and 1 or 2 (or 3) bad ones

Try 3 good weeks and 5 bad ones. Because the Rams and Cards weren't talented enough to exploit the issues doesn't mean things were good.

99 yard drive to Cards.

That's much closer to reality maybe a little generous.

let's take a look around the NFL

I see a DC who gave up 70 in one game
seventy!

if I am correct, that dude, didn't get fired
he's still DC
they just won and held KC to 9

it's a long season, redemption is only a week away, (or two weeks, in this case )

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's called reality, I'm not gonna say a hire is a bad hire after 5 good weeks and 1 or 2 (or 3) bad ones

Try 3 good weeks and 5 bad ones. Because the Rams and Cards weren't talented enough to exploit the issues doesn't mean things were good.

99 yard drive to Cards.

That's much closer to reality maybe a little generous.

let's take a look around the NFL

I see a DC who gave up 70 in one game
seventy!

if I am correct, that dude, didn't get fired
he's still DC
they just won and held KC to 9

it's a long season, redemption is only a week away, (or two weeks, in this case )

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Wrathman:

Wilks not being on the sidelines doesn't help either.

I actually think he needs to leave the booth, and it has nothing to do with energy or being Rah Rah like Saleh or Ryans. It's about communication and ability for more one on one teaching or collective coaching in the moment. Wilks is supposedly a great communicator, but that's completely negated if he's up in the booth.

He needs that to help guys adjust quicker. He'll be able to see the all 22 on the tablet just fine, he doesn't need to be up in the booth.

this is all noise imo (not you, but the convo about he needs to come down)
, booth or not, guys have to tackle, will guys tackle if he's on the sideline as opposed to the booth?
it's about basic fundamentals, and execution

Originally posted by Wrathman:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Your failure to acknowledge Wilks track record speaks volumes.

Cling to that ppg argument as long as can I'm afraid it'll be short lived some of these upcoming teams won't be as generous when it comes to shooting themselves in the foot.

cling to it? it's the entire focus of football games, score points and don't allow points
we are #5 on O and D
I think we are more the team we saw the first 5 than the last 3, just in a funk, that happens over a long season
football is a physical game, and the margin between winning and losing is thin

There's been issues since week 1 it's not just about the last 3 weeks fortunately the teams they played weren't capable of taking advantage of those issues or shot themselves in the foot won't be afforded that luxury going forward with the upcoming schedule.

That top 5 in ppg is about to be exposed for the mirage that ii is.

It is a mirage. The run defense is now bottom of barrel, used to be our bread and butter.
I like your user name. I'm a big Mike Judge and King of the Hill fan.😃

Originally posted by rrallan1:
So digging deep, this guy worked for Ty Willingham, Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, and Ron Rivera. He was DB coach for 17 years until Rivera promoted him to DC in 2017. He then got the Cards job in 2018. So pretty much his success came when Rivera was the defensive architect. This gets more and more embarrassing the deeper I dig

Originally posted by Wrathman:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's called reality, I'm not gonna say a hire is a bad hire after 5 good weeks and 1 or 2 (or 3) bad ones

Try 3 good weeks and 5 bad ones. Because the Rams and Cards weren't talented enough to exploit the issues doesn't mean things were good.

99 yard drive to Cards.

That's much closer to reality maybe a little generous.

let's take a look around the NFL

I see a DC who gave up 70 in one game
seventy!

if I am correct, that dude, didn't get fired
he's still DC
they just won and held KC to 9

it's a long season, redemption is only a week away, (or two weeks, in this case )

Giving up 70 pts in a game is not the model I'm looking for.

Originally posted by Wrathman:

Originally posted by rrallan1:
So digging deep, this guy worked for Ty Willingham, Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, and Ron Rivera. He was DB coach for 17 years until Rivera promoted him to DC in 2017. He then got the Cards job in 2018. So pretty much his success came when Rivera was the defensive architect. This gets more and more embarrassing the deeper I dig

I care too much about my Niners to see this guy tear it down.

Originally posted by Wrathman:
I care too much about my Niners to see this guy tear it down.

Originally posted by JMC52:

Originally posted by Wrathman:

Originally posted by rrallan1:
So digging deep, this guy worked for Ty Willingham, Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, and Ron Rivera. He was DB coach for 17 years until Rivera promoted him to DC in 2017. He then got the Cards job in 2018. So pretty much his success came when Rivera was the defensive architect. This gets more and more embarrassing the deeper I dig

I care too much about my Niners to see this guy tear it down.

Same, it ain't gonna cut it against the best teams come playoffs

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
With this upcoming schedule I'm not so sure playoffs are in the cards.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
With this upcoming schedule I'm not so sure playoffs are in the cards.

Zero chance if the D keeps playing like they are.