Coach - Steve Wilks thread

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
interesting feedback from Sherm

Very interesting. One thing he mentioned that's gone through my head a little is Wilks being in the booth and not on the field. I always thought being in the booth would be better but that one-on-one with the players is missing. Demeco and Saleh would get fired up on the sidelines and greet his players as they came off the field which in turn would fire up the players. There was a higher level of energy that I think was contagious.

actually, quite the contrary I learned from Matt Maiocco today. the players on defense making plays is what would fire up the D coordinator. difference is he was on the sideline so they all got to interact with it

Exactly. We went from this



To this


To this

Boo!🤬

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
interesting feedback from Sherm

Very interesting. One thing he mentioned that's gone through my head a little is Wilks being in the booth and not on the field. I always thought being in the booth would be better but that one-on-one with the players is missing. Demeco and Saleh would get fired up on the sidelines and greet his players as they came off the field which in turn would fire up the players. There was a higher level of energy that I think was contagious.

actually, quite the contrary I learned from Matt Maiocco today. the players on defense making plays is what would fire up the D coordinator. difference is he was on the sideline so they all got to interact with it

Exactly. We went from this



To this


To this

Hahaha! I think the problem is deeper than this. It's the scheme, or defensive play calling, and probably the combination of personnel he has on the field. They need to fix this first. The rah rah thing- Kyle can delegate that to Kocurek and other assistant coaches.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
interesting feedback from Sherm

Very interesting. One thing he mentioned that's gone through my head a little is Wilks being in the booth and not on the field. I always thought being in the booth would be better but that one-on-one with the players is missing. Demeco and Saleh would get fired up on the sidelines and greet his players as they came off the field which in turn would fire up the players. There was a higher level of energy that I think was contagious.

actually, quite the contrary I learned from Matt Maiocco today. the players on defense making plays is what would fire up the D coordinator. difference is he was on the sideline so they all got to interact with it

Exactly. We went from this



To this


To this

who cares, he can be on the moon
it's about is the D doing well, none of this stuff matters, imo
this thread, you guys should actually come up with some examples of the poor scheme you believe is the culprit, and we can look at it, to justify your let's fire him takes, now that would be interesting

him not being rah rah on the sideline, who cares, this isn't pop warner, you think Nick needs a pat on the shoulder and a 'go get em'?

Originally posted by 49erF90:
Hahaha! I think the problem is deeper than this. It's the scheme, or defensive play calling, and probably the combination of personnel he has on the field. They need to fix this first. The rah rah thing- Kyle can delegate that to Kocurek and other assistant coaches.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
interesting feedback from Sherm

Very interesting. One thing he mentioned that's gone through my head a little is Wilks being in the booth and not on the field. I always thought being in the booth would be better but that one-on-one with the players is missing. Demeco and Saleh would get fired up on the sidelines and greet his players as they came off the field which in turn would fire up the players. There was a higher level of energy that I think was contagious.

actually, quite the contrary I learned from Matt Maiocco today. the players on defense making plays is what would fire up the D coordinator. difference is he was on the sideline so they all got to interact with it

Exactly. We went from this



To this


To this

who cares, he can be on the moon
it's about is the D doing well, none of this stuff matters, imo
this thread, you guys should actually come up with some examples of the poor scheme you believe is the culprit, and we can look at it, to justify your let's fire him takes, now that would be interesting

him not being rah rah on the sideline, who cares, this isn't pop warner, you think Nick needs a pat on the shoulder and a 'go get em'?

being on the field makes a bigger difference than you think

it's kind of like how students act when the teacher walks out of class for a few mins

shenanigans!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
who cares, he can be on the moon
it's about is the D doing well, none of this stuff matters, imo
this thread, you guys should actually come up with some examples of the poor scheme you believe is the culprit, and we can look at it, to justify your let's fire him takes, now that would be interesting

him not being rah rah on the sideline, who cares, this isn't pop warner, you think Nick needs a pat on the shoulder and a 'go get em'?

To be fair, that was done with a very easy example last week… which you did push back on. There are plenty of breakdowns available, and lots of former players who cover the team in some form or fashion are sounding the alarm.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
being on the field makes a bigger difference than you think

it's kind of like how students act when the teacher walks out of class for a few mins

shenanigans!

yeah kids, students, pop warner
these guys are professionals, with a job to do
Wilks should be wherever he feels he can see and call the game the best, I think Mike Shanny was upstairs his entire OC tenure, if I recall correct..

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
being on the field makes a bigger difference than you think

it's kind of like how students act when the teacher walks out of class for a few mins

shenanigans!

yeah kids, students, pop warner
these guys are professionals, with a job to do
Wilks should be wherever he feels he can see and call the game the best, I think Mike Shanny was upstairs his entire OC tenure, if I recall correct..

You mean in 94? Because that was really the only successful year he had as OC.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah kids, students, pop warner
these guys are professionals, with a job to do
Wilks should be wherever he feels he can see and call the game the best, I think Mike Shanny was upstairs his entire OC tenure, if I recall correct..

Should have added to my post that I tend to agree it doesn't matter if he's in the booth or on the field. He's out of his element either way.

There's nothing wrong with trying to switch it up though. Maybe he'll have a better idea of how the players are responding to his calls in real time.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
being on the field makes a bigger difference than you think

it's kind of like how students act when the teacher walks out of class for a few mins

shenanigans!

yeah kids, students, pop warner
these guys are professionals, with a job to do
Wilks should be wherever he feels he can see and call the game the best, I think Mike Shanny was upstairs his entire OC tenure, if I recall correct..

well if theyre blaming the players for forgetting how to tackle then maybe get in their ears during the game and "coach them up"

but no, he doesnt want those emotions

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
interesting feedback from Sherm

Very interesting. One thing he mentioned that's gone through my head a little is Wilks being in the booth and not on the field. I always thought being in the booth would be better but that one-on-one with the players is missing. Demeco and Saleh would get fired up on the sidelines and greet his players as they came off the field which in turn would fire up the players. There was a higher level of energy that I think was contagious.

actually, quite the contrary I learned from Matt Maiocco today. the players on defense making plays is what would fire up the D coordinator. difference is he was on the sideline so they all got to interact with it

Exactly. We went from this



To this


To this

who cares, he can be on the moon
it's about is the D doing well, none of this stuff matters, imo
this thread, you guys should actually come up with some examples of the poor scheme you believe is the culprit, and we can look at it, to justify your let's fire him takes, now that would be interesting

him not being rah rah on the sideline, who cares, this isn't pop warner, you think Nick needs a pat on the shoulder and a 'go get em'?

Some examples? . No problem, See game film for all of the examples you need.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
who cares, he can be on the moon
it's about is the D doing well, none of this stuff matters, imo
this thread, you guys should actually come up with some examples of the poor scheme you believe is the culprit, and we can look at it, to justify your let's fire him takes, now that would be interesting

him not being rah rah on the sideline, who cares, this isn't pop warner, you think Nick needs a pat on the shoulder and a 'go get em'?

To be fair, that was done with a very easy example last week… which you did push back on. There are plenty of breakdowns available, and lots of former players who cover the team in some form or fashion are sounding the alarm.

my initial point in discussing that play, was Ward also effed up, the execution end, he had an INT
you want me to say Wilks effed up on that one, I can say it again he did
those two can both be true at once, and are

Wow this guy is still here

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
my initial point in discussing that play, was Ward also effed up, the execution end, he had an INT
you want me to say Wilks effed up on that one, I can say it again he did
those two can both be true at once, and are

I'm just saying there are a plethora of examples and people have been showing them. Not trying to single you out or badger you into agreement either. I also agree Ward didn't execute the play but that point is almost completely irrelevant. Had he executed it perfectly it's still a bad call. Finally it wasn't just a criticism of Ward either, you also made the point that Gipson bit on the 'underneath' route but that wasn't accurate.

The defense is a real problem. When you have near uniform underperformance across the board, it points in one direction.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
my initial point in discussing that play, was Ward also effed up, the execution end, he had an INT
you want me to say Wilks effed up on that one, I can say it again he did
those two can both be true at once, and are

I'm just saying there are a plethora of examples and people have been showing them. Not trying to single you out or badger you into agreement either. I also agree Ward didn't execute the play but that point is almost completely irrelevant. Had he executed it perfectly it's still a bad call. Finally it wasn't just a criticism of Ward either, you also made the point that Gipson bit on the 'underneath' route but that wasn't accurate.

The defense is a real problem. When you have near uniform underperformance across the board, it points in one direction.

You forgot to mention the amount of money, draft picks and All Pros invested on that side of the ball. I can't think of a clearer situation of bad coaching.