Coach - Steve Wilks thread

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:
Yeah the first five games are irrelevant. Saleh/Ryan's did such a good job of in game adjustments. You may see the opposing O drive down the field once but it sure wasn't consistent. Bengals & Vikings walked up and down the field, ALL DARN GAME! Hell even the Browns move s the ball when it mattered.

That 99 yard drive by the Cardinals was when I knew for certain that we were all in danger.

Wait, so does this mean there is literally no hope for the defense?

Little dramatic. It goes to show there are holes, weaknesses

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

"There's also times that, man, I need to talk to this dude, and I don't feel like talking to him on the phone," Shanahan shared. "I need to look him in his eyes and have a conversation with him. There's stuff about that I missed. So, I don't ever think that's the answer or what's wrong."

Shanahan and Wilks have had those discussions and may continue to do so in preparation for the 49ers' Week 10 matchup against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

"Now, I have talked to Steve about possibly coming down," Shanahan said. "One thing I do love about Steve is I think he's a man; he's a leader of men. And I would love, in some instances, to have him down there, to be able to address some guys certain ways, and things like that. And when you do that, there are always stuff you lose from being up top. So there are pluses and minuses to both."

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/173894-49ers-shanahan-weighs-moving-sidelines/

This is EXACTLY what I've been saying. Our guys NEED a dude who can address them face-to-face. These are men, and many of our men are also leaders on this team. Our guys need someone to not just talk to them from afar, they need direct contact. Show them while telling them. It CAN make a difference and I don't know how you can argue that one-on-one coaching would hurt much.

+1. Not like he can't/won't have an assistant (or two or three) up in the booth to tell him what they're seeing from that higher vantage point. He needs to be on the sideline, and he needs to bring energy.

Yeah I mean, the all-22 is still going to be on the tablet. If he can't handle the emotion of being on the sideline and lets that distract him from his play-calling, then he can't be trusted as a DC period.

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
How good was our D coordinator during the first five games?

He wasn't. The same issues were there, and the schedule was a lot easier.

The Rams and Cardinals (to a lesser extent) did the same things the Browns, Vikings and Bengals did. Nacua in that Rams game was killing us.

What changed is that the offense isn't jumping out to that quick lead anymore and that was covering up a lot of the issues.

Yeah the first five games are irrelevant. Saleh/Ryan's did such a good job of in game adjustments. You may see the opposing O drive down the field once but it sure wasn't consistent. Bengals & Vikings walked up and down the field, ALL DARN GAME! Hell even the Browns move s the ball when it mattered.

Facts. DeMeco would have bad drives and in some cases, bad halves. But the defense would snuff it out eventually.

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:
Yeah the first five games are irrelevant. Saleh/Ryan's did such a good job of in game adjustments. You may see the opposing O drive down the field once but it sure wasn't consistent. Bengals & Vikings walked up and down the field, ALL DARN GAME! Hell even the Browns move s the ball when it mattered.

That 99 yard drive by the Cardinals was when I knew for certain that we were all in danger.

Wait, so does this mean there is literally no hope for the defense?

Little dramatic. It goes to show there are holes, weaknesses

Holes? Burrows completed something like 18 consecutive passes against our defense. Even Romo was kinda mocking his play calls

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Crown:
The booth is so 90s

it's in his DNA tho, Steve Wilks Booth

credit to Dale G

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
How good was our D coordinator during the first five games?

He wasn't. The same issues were there, and the schedule was a lot easier.

The Rams and Cardinals (to a lesser extent) did the same things the Browns, Vikings and Bengals did. Nacua in that Rams game was killing us.

What changed is that the offense isn't jumping out to that quick lead anymore and that was covering up a lot of the issues.

Yeah the first five games are irrelevant. Saleh/Ryan's did such a good job of in game adjustments. You may see the opposing O drive down the field once but it sure wasn't consistent. Bengals & Vikings walked up and down the field, ALL DARN GAME! Hell even the Browns move s the ball when it mattered.

So what you guys are saying is that other teams have now picked up on what we are doing on offense and defense since the first five games. Now our offense cannot score more than 17 points per game, and our defense can't stop the other teams offense.

which is more daunting, the drop off on defense or offense?

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:
Yeah the first five games are irrelevant. Saleh/Ryan's did such a good job of in game adjustments. You may see the opposing O drive down the field once but it sure wasn't consistent. Bengals & Vikings walked up and down the field, ALL DARN GAME! Hell even the Browns move s the ball when it mattered.

That 99 yard drive by the Cardinals was when I knew for certain that we were all in danger.

Wait, so does this mean there is literally no hope for the defense?

Little dramatic. It goes to show there are holes, weaknesses

Holes? Burrows completed something like 18 consecutive passes against our defense. Even Romo was kinda mocking his play calls

So yes a bunch of holes.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
How good was our D coordinator during the first five games?

He wasn't. The same issues were there, and the schedule was a lot easier.

The Rams and Cardinals (to a lesser extent) did the same things the Browns, Vikings and Bengals did. Nacua in that Rams game was killing us.

What changed is that the offense isn't jumping out to that quick lead anymore and that was covering up a lot of the issues.

Yeah the first five games are irrelevant. Saleh/Ryan's did such a good job of in game adjustments. You may see the opposing O drive down the field once but it sure wasn't consistent. Bengals & Vikings walked up and down the field, ALL DARN GAME! Hell even the Browns move s the ball when it mattered.

Facts. DeMeco would have bad drives and in some cases, bad halves. But the defense would snuff it out eventually.

True, our defense is on the field a lot. Our offense is turning the ball over via interceptions & fumbles. The red zone turnovers are killing us.
Defense is just as bad, so the Defense is no longer bailing out the offense. Defense has been bailing out this offense for years, I thought this year would be different, the offense was scoring 30 points per game and now we can't score more than 17 points.

I actually think this is a team thing. Offense and defense are equally bad right now. Special teams as well.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
True, our defense is on the field a lot. Our offense is turning the ball over via interceptions & fumbles. The red zone turnovers are killing us.
Defense is just as bad, so the Defense is no longer bailing out the offense. Defense has been bailing out this offense for years, I thought this year would be different, the offense was scoring 30 points per game and now we can't score more than 17 points.

I actually think this is a team thing. Offense and defense are equally bad right now. Special teams as well.

Correct, it is no coincidence when offense was scoring at will Defense was looking decent. Turning the ball over does that. On Defense, the problem is they are playing passive and if they play aggressive they get burnt. They get ToP dominated, and this eats into offense's opportunities.

At this point I'd almost go and try to be aggressive. They might give up a big play but at least they'll get off the field one way or the other. This death by a thousand cuts stuff doesn't work against QBs and OCs who know ball and can exploit the scheme.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
True, our defense is on the field a lot. Our offense is turning the ball over via interceptions & fumbles. The red zone turnovers are killing us.
Defense is just as bad, so the Defense is no longer bailing out the offense. Defense has been bailing out this offense for years, I thought this year would be different, the offense was scoring 30 points per game and now we can't score more than 17 points.

I actually think this is a team thing. Offense and defense are equally bad right now. Special teams as well.

Correct, it is no coincidence when offense was scoring at will Defense was looking decent. Turning the ball over does that. On Defense, the problem is they are playing passive and if they play aggressive they get burnt. They get ToP dominated, and this eats into offense's opportunities.

At this point I'd almost go and try to be aggressive. They might give up a big play but at least they'll get off the field one way or the other. This death by a thousand cuts stuff doesn't work against QBs and OCs who know ball and can exploit the scheme.

Yes, I'd like to fix the team approach rather than focus on fixing the defense. We have many issues, but defense stands out like a sore thumb.

We went from 30 points per game to a quarterback that's now throwing multiple interceptions per game. I think the bye week is a perfect time to fix all of this.

Most of us seem to agree that Wilks isn't the answer.

Any ideas who could step in or might be available??

I never liked Rex Ryan but in his favor - he had tons of passion that seemed to be contagious to his teams.

Anyone like that?

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Most of us seem to agree that Wilks isn't the answer.

Any ideas who could step in or might be available??

I never liked Rex Ryan but in his favor - he had tons of passion that seemed to be contagious to his teams.

Anyone like that?

I think an in-house replacement will probably be best, but I don't know who would make the best of it. Not bringing in Fangio hurts at this point.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Most of us seem to agree that Wilks isn't the answer.

Any ideas who could step in or might be available??

I never liked Rex Ryan but in his favor - he had tons of passion that seemed to be contagious to his teams.

Anyone like that?

Just give him some toes to suck on…

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Most of us seem to agree that Wilks isn't the answer.

Any ideas who could step in or might be available??

I never liked Rex Ryan but in his favor - he had tons of passion that seemed to be contagious to his teams.

Anyone like that?

It doesn't seem like they are moving off of Wilks this season so strap in and hope for the best.

Still don't trust this guy at all. He still will find a way to mess this up. I still don't want him as defensive coordinator. Go back to last years defense and stop this nonsense.