Coach - Steve Wilks thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Out of curiosity are we saying he made great adjustments if Detroit's WRs caught their open balls? Especially the dropped TD?

His adjustments put pressure on Goff who clearly got in in his own head and looked bad in the 2nd half. That first half he could have eaten a sandwich and had a sip of coffee in the pocket before any real pressure got in in his face.

Also, keep in mind DET ran for 148 in the first half. They finished with 182. So we allowed 34 2nd half rush yds.

This. The Lions are similar to us in that their passing offense is much better if they can have an effective run game. Because ultimately, it was the run that was killing us in the first half.

Here's a breakdown of the key 4th down stop

https://www.sbnation.com/2024/1/29/24054310/nfl-playoffs-lions-49ers-jared-goff-dan-campbell-steve-wilks-fourth-down

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
typical wilks game plan mediocrity, then stellar adjustments at the half...
seems like he just puts up vanilla in the first half to see what they are trying to do then makes the "real" game plan at half time

How is that typical? It's like ppl are treating that game as the typical game. Vs GB, they came in red hot, and had 6 pts in 30 mins. We had 1 score at half and led.

He read my mind. Its like he just runs a base defense and with zero wrinkles to see how the front 4 are holding up, but imo a decent oc and qb see that and just play ball. Its not like they're attacking anything. He needs to try disguises and some crazy stunts quicker and make adjustments more on the fly.

For some reason we use Wide 9 almost no matter the down and distance. That wasn't the case in previous years. Now teams are clearly exploiting it

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Out of curiosity are we saying he made great adjustments if Detroit's WRs caught their open balls? Especially the dropped TD?

His adjustments put pressure on Goff who clearly got in in his own head and looked bad in the 2nd half. That first half he could have eaten a sandwich and had a sip of coffee in the pocket before any real pressure got in in his face.

Also, keep in mind DET ran for 148 in the first half. They finished with 182. So we allowed 34 2nd half rush yds.

42 yards of that 1st Q rushing came off an embarrassingrun by a WR that looked like Deebo breaking tackles and juking players on what looked like a very lost 49er D.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Out of curiosity are we saying he made great adjustments if Detroit's WRs caught their open balls? Especially the dropped TD?

His adjustments put pressure on Goff who clearly got in in his own head and looked bad in the 2nd half. That first half he could have eaten a sandwich and had a sip of coffee in the pocket before any real pressure got in in his face.

Also, keep in mind DET ran for 148 in the first half. They finished with 182. So we allowed 34 2nd half rush yds.

42 yards of that 1st Q rushing came off an embarrassingrun by a WR that looked like Deebo breaking tackles and juking players on what looked like a very lost 49er D.

They have some players. Jameson Williams they moved up aggressively for in round 1. He's one of the fastest men in the NFL. You get the entire D flowing one way, and he gets going the other way. Good play. He was very quiet the remainder of the game.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The drive started in SF territory, it's only at midfield if you are using some creative rounding.

The 46 yard line is midfield my man. Not even a critical point of the post anyway.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Out of curiosity are we saying he made great adjustments if Detroit's WRs caught their open balls? Especially the dropped TD?

His adjustments put pressure on Goff who clearly got in in his own head and looked bad in the 2nd half. That first half he could have eaten a sandwich and had a sip of coffee in the pocket before any real pressure got in in his face.

Also, keep in mind DET ran for 148 in the first half. They finished with 182. So we allowed 34 2nd half rush yds.

42 yards of that 1st Q rushing came off an embarrassingrun by a WR that looked like Deebo breaking tackles and juking players on what looked like a very lost 49er D.

Yea, though giving up 106 yards in the first half would still be a lot.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The drive started in SF territory, it's only at midfield if you are using some creative rounding.

The 46 yard line is midfield my man. Not even a critical point of the post anyway.

I think no matter how you slice it, it's a short field. That's never ideal for a D which was struggling in half one. Our O didn't do much in 2 first halves so far. To your point, I think this D can look a lot more how it should, if they are playing with a lead. We need faster starts on O. Young, Gregory, Hargrave, Bosa, all do better on pass downs. If the O starts fast enough, we can play the other team out of the run game altogether.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
typical wilks game plan mediocrity, then stellar adjustments at the half...
seems like he just puts up vanilla in the first half to see what they are trying to do then makes the "real" game plan at half time

How is that typical? It's like ppl are treating that game as the typical game. Vs GB, they came in red hot, and had 6 pts in 30 mins. We had 1 score at half and led.

He read my mind. Its like he just runs a base defense and with zero wrinkles to see how the front 4 are holding up, but imo a decent oc and qb see that and just play ball. Its not like they're attacking anything. He needs to try disguises and some crazy stunts quicker and make adjustments more on the fly.

For some reason we use Wide 9 almost no matter the down and distance. That wasn't the case in previous years. Now teams are clearly exploiting it

SF did that in previous years too, using the wide9 no matter down/distance. One reason it came about, as they were shifting away from the 4-3 Under that Saleh initially started with in 2017, was that is allowed the DL to stay in one look and not have to switch between a five man front (4-3 Under) and a four man front (when pass rushing).

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
typical wilks game plan mediocrity, then stellar adjustments at the half...
seems like he just puts up vanilla in the first half to see what they are trying to do then makes the "real" game plan at half time

How is that typical? It's like ppl are treating that game as the typical game. Vs GB, they came in red hot, and had 6 pts in 30 mins. We had 1 score at half and led.

He read my mind. Its like he just runs a base defense and with zero wrinkles to see how the front 4 are holding up, but imo a decent oc and qb see that and just play ball. Its not like they're attacking anything. He needs to try disguises and some crazy stunts quicker and make adjustments more on the fly.

For some reason we use Wide 9 almost no matter the down and distance. That wasn't the case in previous years. Now teams are clearly exploiting it

We have little in the middle now. That's the difference.

The defense that played against Phi/Dal needs to show up. No more slow starts. Whatever the plan on D has been needs to be changed up.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
typical wilks game plan mediocrity, then stellar adjustments at the half...
seems like he just puts up vanilla in the first half to see what they are trying to do then makes the "real" game plan at half time

How is that typical? It's like ppl are treating that game as the typical game. Vs GB, they came in red hot, and had 6 pts in 30 mins. We had 1 score at half and led.

He read my mind. Its like he just runs a base defense and with zero wrinkles to see how the front 4 are holding up, but imo a decent oc and qb see that and just play ball. Its not like they're attacking anything. He needs to try disguises and some crazy stunts quicker and make adjustments more on the fly.

For some reason we use Wide 9 almost no matter the down and distance. That wasn't the case in previous years. Now teams are clearly exploiting it

SF did that in previous years too, using the wide9 no matter down/distance. One reason it came about, as they were shifting away from the 4-3 Under that Saleh initially started with in 2017, was that is allowed the DL to stay in one look and not have to switch between a five man front (4-3 Under) and a four man front (when pass rushing).

I believe we implement wide 9 in 2019. That year we weren't stout against the run, and when we struggled against the run, we did sometimes gone away from wide 9 a bit. Since 2020, we have stick to the wide nine.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I think no matter how you slice it, it's a short field. That's never ideal for a D which was struggling in half one. Our O didn't do much in 2 first halves so far. To your point, I think this D can look a lot more how it should, if they are playing with a lead. We need faster starts on O. Young, Gregory, Hargrave, Bosa, all do better on pass downs. If the O starts fast enough, we can play the other team out of the run game altogether.

How do you play from the lead if the opposing team gets the ball and goes right down the field for touchdowns on the first two possessions?

Offense set up a field goal on possession one that was missed and scored a TD on drive two. Lions went TD/TD/punt/TD/FG in the first half. To 'play from the lead' we need damn near perfect efficiency when the D is turning in an F level performance like this. This isn't complimentary football. It's expecting the strength of the team to work miracles and cover for units that aren't doing their job.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
typical wilks game plan mediocrity, then stellar adjustments at the half...
seems like he just puts up vanilla in the first half to see what they are trying to do then makes the "real" game plan at half time

How is that typical? It's like ppl are treating that game as the typical game. Vs GB, they came in red hot, and had 6 pts in 30 mins. We had 1 score at half and led.

He read my mind. Its like he just runs a base defense and with zero wrinkles to see how the front 4 are holding up, but imo a decent oc and qb see that and just play ball. Its not like they're attacking anything. He needs to try disguises and some crazy stunts quicker and make adjustments more on the fly.

For some reason we use Wide 9 almost no matter the down and distance. That wasn't the case in previous years. Now teams are clearly exploiting it

We have little in the middle now. That's the difference.

Yep, we should draft another DT and move Armstead back to DE.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
How do you play from the lead if the opposing team gets the ball and goes right down the field for touchdowns on the first two possessions?

Offense set up a field goal on possession one that was missed and scored a TD on drive two. Lions went TD/TD/punt/TD/FG in the first half. To 'play from the lead' we need damn near perfect efficiency when the D is turning in an F level performance like this. This isn't complimentary football. It's expecting the strength of the team to work miracles and cover for units that aren't doing their job.

If we win the toss, we should take the ball and go score a TD. Usually, I am in favor of the double dip before and after half. But a good start is critical in this one. Make them play without a lead.

To your point, it's difficult to play from the lead when the defense is getting gashed in the run game. Or, giving up early TD's.

If the offense goes 3/4 for TD drives in the first half. Yet, the opponent goes 4/4, that is on the defense.

In this game, we either go blow to blow with them on offense. Our D steps up and it's a 24-21 type game, or we get blown out.