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so this guys a f**king idiot. He's right we didn't fire Demeco Ryan after getting "destroyed" when our QBs were both injured. Like Pitt and that online school Larry Fitz used to do commercials for should retract their education credits from him.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by fan49:
Both do not run our defense. Bill Belichick runs a 34 if I am correct and we do not have the right players for that system.

Bill Belichick runs whatever he needs to run, and he runs them all at the highest level. The dude has been constantly innovating his scheme to counter the league's offense trends for the last 40 years. He's had years where he ran 2-gapping front; 1-gapping front; hybrid front; heavy zone coverage; heavy man coverage. He's never had a static scheme. The dude can literally coach any scheme; any front; any position--all at the highest level. He adapts his scheme to his player's strengths and to attack his opponent's weaknesses. He's the GOAT for a reason.



Fans don't fully grasp the magnitude of the possibility of Belichick coming in to coach this loaded defense. Now, if only Shanny can pull it off...

His eye for defensive talent is a must have too. We got Kyle to draft WRs
NOT that I like Wilks.. but once more... Shanny found another guy to be his scape goat..
Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT that I like Wilks.. but once more... Shanny found another guy to be his scape goat..

Having to come down from the rafters mid season? Bosa said they weren't prepared for some of those plays. Cover 0 against a team known for beating the blitz? Having Shanny cancel a play call and make him call something else?

Yeah, that's not a scapegoat, that's a problem that needs to be fixed. He may not be a bad coach, but he is certainly not a fit.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT that I like Wilks.. but once more... Shanny found another guy to be his scape goat..

Having to come down from the rafters mid season? Bosa said they weren't prepared for some of those plays. Cover 0 against a team known for beating the blitz? Having Shanny cancel a play call and make him call something else?

Yeah, that's not a scapegoat, that's a problem that needs to be fixed. He may not be a bad coach, but he is certainly not a fit.

WILKS called a GOOD game plan for about 3+ quarters... Shanny was given some turnovers and did nothing on both.. Wilks did not call the pass plays late in the 4th, and even in OT..

all you need to remember is that Shanny's been UP double digits in 3 Super Bowls and lost all of them... WHY?? because he called for pass plays when he shoulda been running the ball.
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

If Belichick is not an option, then I would love to have Vrabel. And for the record, I am actually a Staley fan as well. He was great on McVay's staff. And I like his all gas no breaks approach. You know he's going to let this D eat, and QBs will be attacked over and over…

Both do not run our defense. Bill Belichick runs a 34 if I am correct and we do not have the right players for that system.

Fangio ran a 3-4 as well. Our run D was much better. Wilks did figure out the Philly counter, so he should get some credit for breaking them down. It's too bad we couldn't use some of that to shut down Mahomes running in OT.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

If Belichick is not an option, then I would love to have Vrabel. And for the record, I am actually a Staley fan as well. He was great on McVay's staff. And I like his all gas no breaks approach. You know he's going to let this D eat, and QBs will be attacked over and over…

Both do not run our defense. Bill Belichick runs a 34 if I am correct and we do not have the right players for that system.

Fangio ran a 3-4 as well. Our run D was much better. Wilks did figure out the Philly counter, so he should get some credit for breaking them down. It's too bad we couldn't use some of that to shut down Mahomes running in OT.

we don't have the personnel to run the 3-4.. we drafted DL designed for 4-3..
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

If Belichick is not an option, then I would love to have Vrabel. And for the record, I am actually a Staley fan as well. He was great on McVay's staff. And I like his all gas no breaks approach. You know he's going to let this D eat, and QBs will be attacked over and over…

Both do not run our defense. Bill Belichick runs a 34 if I am correct and we do not have the right players for that system.

Fangio ran a 3-4 as well. Our run D was much better. Wilks did figure out the Philly counter, so he should get some credit for breaking them down. It's too bad we couldn't use some of that to shut down Mahomes running in OT.

It wasn't really a 3-4. Aldon was basically a full time pass rusher.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:

so this guys a f**king idiot. He's right we didn't fire Demeco Ryan after getting "destroyed" when our QBs were both injured. Like Pitt and that online school Larry Fitz used to do commercials for should retract their education credits from him.

Thats the problem with the Internets. Humans have always had uninformed opinions. Unfortunately they are free to share them with the masses at the click of a button. So much of these takes are based solely on final results with no context.
Screw it, pay up for Belichick for DC.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:

so this guys a f**king idiot. He's right we didn't fire Demeco Ryan after getting "destroyed" when our QBs were both injured. Like Pitt and that online school Larry Fitz used to do commercials for should retract their education credits from him.

That post does not involve much if any critical thinking. Ryans wasn't fired after the 22–23 NFC championship because he was on his way to becoming a HC elsewhere. Don't really understand what part of, DR was moving on regardless, he doesn't effing get.
[ Edited by ninerjok on Feb 14, 2024 at 11:37 PM ]
Seeing some talk on social media about Kyle essentially having to hold Wilks' hand in crafting the gameplan for the SB and with the in-game play-calling on defense. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this was true after Kyle moved him down from the booth, upset with his cover 0 call vs Minnesota, vetoed his call in the SB(who knows how many times this happened), Bosa complaining mid-season about the defense, etc.

Enough with the experiments. Kyle needs someone he can trust to take control of the defense.
[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 14, 2024 at 11:58 PM ]
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
He'd be getting fired if we won. That was one of his best games of the season, along with the defense, but the review is of the complete body of work.

As far as the game itself it's always been about matchups. Of course our O struggled more than the D on the surface. The Chiefs have an elite defense and have a mediocre offense outside of a great QB and TE. It was the worst offense we faced in the playoffs. By far and away the best D.

if anyone heard Kyle's conference call from Wednesday, which the local beat guys were informed of only 10 minutes before. I don't know how someone listens to that and concludes he simply made Wilks a scapegoat. Even if he did seems to be a good reason, he pretty much was a scapegoat. This may be news to some but even the guys who are in charge of a top flight, pro sports franchise don't get everything right all the time. In describing SW's performance of coaching up the defense and putting them in position of succeeding to their upmost capability Kyle used a phrase that was very telling "… was harder than it needed to be."
It was the right move, Wilks has all this talent and he didn't get half as much pressure as a solid coordinator could have
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