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Feb 15, 2024 at 2:26 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Listening to JLs closing presser, he said AA and Hargrave both played compromised. The run D all the sudden makes a lil more sense what happened.

from google:
torn meniscus
San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Arik Armstead played through a knee injury during the postseason that he said on Tuesday will require offseason surgery.

on Hargrave:
General manger John Lynch later told reporters that Pro Bowl defensive tackle Javon Hargrave finished the season with a torn thumb ligament suffered in November.

ppl said it was tactics, or scheme, or Wilks not animated like his priors. In reality, those key interior guys weren't anchoring vs the run anymore quite as well. We now see why. Credit to those guys for battling

They had those injuries all year?
Feb 15, 2024 at 2:32 PM
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Listening to JLs closing presser, he said AA and Hargrave both played compromised. The run D all the sudden makes a lil more sense what happened.

from google:
torn meniscus
San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Arik Armstead played through a knee injury during the postseason that he said on Tuesday will require offseason surgery.

on Hargrave:
General manger John Lynch later told reporters that Pro Bowl defensive tackle Javon Hargrave finished the season with a torn thumb ligament suffered in November.

ppl said it was tactics, or scheme, or Wilks not animated like his priors. In reality, those key interior guys weren't anchoring vs the run anymore quite as well. We now see why. Credit to those guys for battling

They had those injuries all year?

no, late season

if you look at D rush yds per game it was 9/12 under 100 yards allowed or 75%
after the Philly game mentioned below it was 2/8 or 25%

this is from ESPN on Armstead:

The injury happened on the second snap of that Dec. 3 victory in Philadelphia. Armstead finished the game despite not being "all the way myself," but he did not play again until Jan. 20, when the Niners hosted the Green Bay Packers in an NFC divisional-round game.
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on Feb 15, 2024 at 2:33 PM ]
Feb 15, 2024 at 2:37 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Listening to JLs closing presser, he said AA and Hargrave both played compromised. The run D all the sudden makes a lil more sense what happened.

from google:
torn meniscus
San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Arik Armstead played through a knee injury during the postseason that he said on Tuesday will require offseason surgery.

on Hargrave:
General manger John Lynch later told reporters that Pro Bowl defensive tackle Javon Hargrave finished the season with a torn thumb ligament suffered in November.

ppl said it was tactics, or scheme, or Wilks not animated like his priors. In reality, those key interior guys weren't anchoring vs the run anymore quite as well. We now see why. Credit to those guys for battling

They had those injuries all year?

no, late season

if you look at D rush yds per game it was 9/12 under 100 yards allowed or 75%
after the Philly game mentioned below it was 2/8 or 25%

this is from ESPN on Armstead:

The injury happened on the second snap of that Dec. 3 victory in Philadelphia. Armstead finished the game despite not being "all the way myself," but he did not play again until Jan. 20, when the Niners hosted the Green Bay Packers in an NFC divisional-round game.
I'm sure injuries didn't help things, but this was primarily on Wilks and his past schemes had similar issues. He's gone for a reason and it was not just a result of the SB
Feb 15, 2024 at 2:53 PM
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Anyone who is using the term "scapegoat" is being an emotional child. Our entire fanbase was complaining about Wilks all season long. Our players didnt have stellar things to say about him all season long (they didnt call him out, but they never backed him). It was never a fit. We tried to make it work and it didnt.

Wilks wasnt fired because we lost the Superbowl.

Social media is using the scapegoat excuse for engagement right now. Acho is saying Wilks was being 'undermined' by Shanny lol.

Even worse, some content creators are pulling the racial card as a reason for the firing, which makes absolutely no sense.
It's the world we live in.

Its a reality that this is a problem, but the people claiming it in this instance don't actually follow the 49ers.
Not to the point that it's played and this instance is a prime example of that.
Feb 15, 2024 at 3:16 PM
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Anyone who is using the term "scapegoat" is being an emotional child. Our entire fanbase was complaining about Wilks all season long. Our players didnt have stellar things to say about him all season long (they didnt call him out, but they never backed him). It was never a fit. We tried to make it work and it didnt.

Wilks wasnt fired because we lost the Superbowl.

Social media is using the scapegoat excuse for engagement right now. Acho is saying Wilks was being 'undermined' by Shanny lol.

Even worse, some content creators are pulling the racial card as a reason for the firing, which makes absolutely no sense.
It's the world we live in.

Its a reality that this is a problem, but the people claiming it in this instance don't actually follow the 49ers.
Not to the point that it's played and this instance is a prime example of that.

Yup. I got into it with someone over thar and went through the season. The first Arizona game, the career game for Kirk Cousins, zero blitz, massive drop off of run D and 3rd down D, etc. I gave credit for the improvement of the secondary but the defense as a whole was down with better players on the defensive line. No one had a response.
Feb 15, 2024 at 3:20 PM
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Anyone who is using the term "scapegoat" is being an emotional child. Our entire fanbase was complaining about Wilks all season long. Our players didnt have stellar things to say about him all season long (they didnt call him out, but they never backed him). It was never a fit. We tried to make it work and it didnt.

Wilks wasnt fired because we lost the Superbowl.

Social media is using the scapegoat excuse for engagement right now. Acho is saying Wilks was being 'undermined' by Shanny lol.

Even worse, some content creators are pulling the racial card as a reason for the firing, which makes absolutely no sense.
It's the world we live in.

Its a reality that this is a problem, but the people claiming it in this instance don't actually follow the 49ers.
Not to the point that it's played and this instance is a prime example of that.

Yup. I got into it with someone over thar and went through the season. The first Arizona game, the career game for Kirk Cousins, zero blitz, massive drop off of run D and 3rd down D, etc. I gave credit for the improvement of the secondary but the defense as a whole was down with better players on the defensive line. No one had a response.
Yup his performance over the course of the season warranted him being let go.
Feb 15, 2024 at 4:25 PM
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
They had those injuries all year?

Missouri must've also had injuries when his run defense was among the worse they have ever had.
Feb 15, 2024 at 4:26 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Kyle just needs something to take credit for,

can't take credit for the O,
can't take credit for being prepared
can't take credit for the 'analytics' we want the ball 3rd, and we're gonna score
so he scapegoats, and takes credit for what went well on the other side

this is our leader

Dude, you spent all season long talking up Wilks when in the end its clear that he is what he's always been, a DB coach that has zero business calling defense in the NFL, or even college considering how much he struggled at Missouri as well. . He's just a much more hyped up Ed Donatell.

PHX posted this months ago…kudos to PHX for letting us know what was coming. Unfortunately Wilks was already hired,but PHX's post was a litany of just how bad Wilks was before.
Feb 15, 2024 at 4:42 PM
Goated
Feb 15, 2024 at 4:56 PM
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Anyone who is using the term "scapegoat" is being an emotional child. Our entire fanbase was complaining about Wilks all season long. Our players didnt have stellar things to say about him all season long (they didnt call him out, but they never backed him). It was never a fit. We tried to make it work and it didnt.

Wilks wasnt fired because we lost the Superbowl.

Social media is using the scapegoat excuse for engagement right now. Acho is saying Wilks was being 'undermined' by Shanny lol.

Even worse, some content creators are pulling the racial card as a reason for the firing, which makes absolutely no sense.
It's the world we live in.

Its a reality that this is a problem, but the people claiming it in this instance don't actually follow the 49ers.
Not to the point that it's played and this instance is a prime example of that.

Yup. I got into it with someone over thar and went through the season. The first Arizona game, the career game for Kirk Cousins, zero blitz, massive drop off of run D and 3rd down D, etc. I gave credit for the improvement of the secondary but the defense as a whole was down with better players on the defensive line. No one had a response.

I did too with someone who said it was BS that Kyle blamed the loss on Wilks and fired him. I said no you only saw this lapses in the superbowl I saw them all year long. He had to go just not a good fit for how our defense is structured around a strong line and LBs in Gap coverage. He left way too many holes in the D, remember the Vikings and Bengals game? Then they were quite......
Feb 15, 2024 at 5:00 PM
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Wilks was responsible for that 99 yard drive by the astronaut in Arizona. Of course he had to go
Feb 15, 2024 at 5:07 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
no, late season

if you look at D rush yds per game it was 9/12 under 100 yards allowed or 75%
after the Philly game mentioned below it was 2/8 or 25%

this is from ESPN on Armstead:

The injury happened on the second snap of that Dec. 3 victory in Philadelphia. Armstead finished the game despite not being "all the way myself," but he did not play again until Jan. 20, when the Niners hosted the Green Bay Packers in an NFC divisional-round game.

You have to use better stats than yards. Yards per game. Yards per attempt. All don't tell the story.

Those stats are affected by the fact that we were up multiple scores early in the second half of wins throughout the season, and things like running a highly efficient ball control offense. Not all runs are the same either. A 2 yard run on 4th and 1 is better than an 8 yard run on 3rd and 15.

The run D was not good really all year. It probably got worse late with some injuries, sure.
Feb 15, 2024 at 5:54 PM
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Anyone who is using the term "scapegoat" is being an emotional child. Our entire fanbase was complaining about Wilks all season long. Our players didnt have stellar things to say about him all season long (they didnt call him out, but they never backed him). It was never a fit. We tried to make it work and it didnt.

Wilks wasnt fired because we lost the Superbowl.

Social media is using the scapegoat excuse for engagement right now. Acho is saying Wilks was being 'undermined' by Shanny lol.

Even worse, some content creators are pulling the racial card as a reason for the firing, which makes absolutely no sense.
It's the world we live in.

Its a reality that this is a problem, but the people claiming it in this instance don't actually follow the 49ers.
Not to the point that it's played and this instance is a prime example of that.

Yup. I got into it with someone over thar and went through the season. The first Arizona game, the career game for Kirk Cousins, zero blitz, massive drop off of run D and 3rd down D, etc. I gave credit for the improvement of the secondary but the defense as a whole was down with better players on the defensive line. No one had a response.
Yup his performance over the course of the season warranted him being let go.

That's the irritating thing with national media and even conversations with supposedly informed fans who get their information from national media. Damn shame we don't need a DB coach, because Wilks made Ambry Thomas look like a start for about half the season, which is about half a season longer than he's looked like a starter in his entire career. But the negatives outweigh the positives.
Feb 15, 2024 at 6:08 PM
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Feb 15, 2024 at 6:38 PM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
They had those injuries all year?

Missouri must've also had injuries when his run defense was among the worse they have ever had.

This LOL 😆
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