Coach - Steve Wilks thread

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Is he fired yet?

We lost to a PJ Walker led team, smoked by a team without justin jefferson. Every team now no matter who is the on the roster will pick apart this soft defense.

A 250-yard game from Chase should hopefully end this guy's career for good but this team doesn't have the balls to fire anyone midseason, unfortunately.

Even the garbage Panthers have the guts to fire midseason like they did Rhule last year. This organization though? Forget it.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by bud49:
Where the defense use to be the strong part of this team it is now the weakest.

This is all you need to know. Until there are changes, no way we get a ring

we are top 10 in yds and top 3 in points
both on O and on D

lead the NFL most INTs

So you're cool with this defense?

Absolutely, players have to execute
there were plays to be made, ball went right through Wards hands, Gip with the penalty last week
Moody with the misses both weeks
then look at Shanny, no push on O and he runs into a wall on 2nd then 3rd down, with uncreative play calls
17 points back to back weeks from Shanny, all those TOs,

Wilks ain't the problem, I see he's the scapegoat, but a lot moreso than he deserves, it's like McG thread all over again

cant just say players have to execute, coaches have to not call terrible plays like just before halftime

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Can someone explain to me what he's accomplished in his career as a coach that made him the ideal candidate to handle this defense? Looking at his resume, I don't see any sustained success.

It's becoming obvious that this was a bad hire. As others have said, schematically, he's calling a different defense than what we've come to expect.

Obviously other candidates we're not available or went somewhere else. This was a panic hire. And obviously they didn't do their due diligence in looking around the league for replacements nor did they like anyone internal that can be promoted.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I disagree with you. The pass rush is non existent and on the last play of the half you should not have your corner on an island where he can give up a 75 yd td. I think we allowed close to 500 yards?!....and the defense was on the field most of the game. Ive never seen so many wide open 3rd in longs in my life.

This guy took a veteran defensive unit that has been top 3 for years and they look lost and frustrated to me. A coach of his experience should know what to do.

but why is it non existent? each week I see Maxx Crosby and last week M Garrett, just take over games, dominate their individual matchups. It's see QB, get QB, and if they are helping on Nick, that opens it up for AA / Hargrave. Guys have to win their individual matchups.

not sure what we were doing with the 7 on the LOS, but Gip was back as a safety and bites up on an intermediate, you can't do that on that game situation at end of half, questionable defensive play call, on one play, but it needed two DBs to really eff up the execution, execution is to blame here, not just scheme

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Kyle is far from perfect, but if Wilks isn't a match he needs to move on. He will lose the players quickly if he lets this fester.

Cardinals fans said he lost the locker room REAL fast with lack of accountability and finger pointing.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Can someone explain to me what he's accomplished in his career as a coach that made him the ideal candidate to handle this defense? Looking at his resume, I don't see any sustained success.

It's becoming obvious that this was a bad hire. As others have said, schematically, he's calling a different defense than what we've come to expect.

Obviously other candidates we're not available or went somewhere else. This was a panic hire. And obviously they didn't do their due diligence in looking around the league for replacements nor did they like anyone internal that can be promoted.

Supposedly didn't choose Fangio over schematic/philosophical differences, but look at this D now. Wilks must've been a hell of a liar in the interview.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-172520/

He meant to say he's never been around an elite group everywhere he coached.

This guy needs to be on the field talking to his guys instead of being up in the booth

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by bud49:
Where the defense use to be the strong part of this team it is now the weakest.

This is all you need to know. Until there are changes, no way we get a ring

we are top 10 in yds and top 3 in points
both on O and on D

lead the NFL most INTs

So you're cool with this defense?

Absolutely, players have to execute
there were plays to be made, ball went right through Wards hands, Gip with the penalty last week
Moody with the misses both weeks
then look at Shanny, no push on O and he runs into a wall on 2nd then 3rd down, with uncreative play calls
17 points back to back weeks from Shanny, all those TOs,

Wilks ain't the problem, I see he's the scapegoat, but a lot moreso than he deserves, it's like McG thread all over again

cant just say players have to execute, coaches have to not call terrible plays like just before halftime

can't we say it's both? ball went thru Ward, and Gip seemingly misplayed it badly. that's execution, if Wilks schemed it where players were not in position to make a play, that's scheme, I saw two guys in position to make a play, one bit on the wrong route, the other had the ball go thru him,

Bosa ain't too happy with the scheme

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Can someone explain to me what he's accomplished in his career as a coach that made him the ideal candidate to handle this defense? Looking at his resume, I don't see any sustained success.

It's becoming obvious that this was a bad hire. As others have said, schematically, he's calling a different defense than what we've come to expect.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Obviously other candidates we're not available or went somewhere else. This was a panic hire. And obviously they didn't do their due diligence in looking around the league for replacements nor did they like anyone internal that can be promoted.

I don't believe it was a panic hire. They certainly took their time in hiring him. I think that Wilks is a guy that is great at selling himself and probably comes off awesome in interviews.

I do know that if he flops with this level of talent on his defense that teams will be giving him the side eye for the rest of his career.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
can't we say it's both? ball went thru Ward, and Gip seemingly misplayed it badly. that's execution, if Wilks schemed it where players were not in position to make a play, that's scheme, I saw two guys in position to make a play, one bit on the wrong route, the other had the ball go thru him,

Two major things changed on the defense this offseason.

1. They signed Hargrave

2. They hired Wilks

If most if your defense is suddenly underperforming, that's a coaching/playcalling issue. I haven't seen the defense simply be unable to get off the field this badly since 2016.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
can't we say it's both? ball went thru Ward, and Gip seemingly misplayed it badly. that's execution, if Wilks schemed it where players were not in position to make a play, that's scheme, I saw two guys in position to make a play, one bit on the wrong route, the other had the ball go thru him,

Two major things changed on the defense this offseason.

1. They signed Hargrave

2. They hired Wilks

If most if your defense is suddenly underperforming, that's a coaching/playcalling issue. I haven't seen the defense simply be unable to get off the field this badly since 2016.

is it underperforming tho? let's start with the premise

we are 3rd in points
we are 8th in yds
we are #1 in most INTs
we concede 15.6 ppg (which in today's NFL is elite)

numbers like that don't jive with the FIRE WILKS vibes I am reading
if Ward catches a ball last night, we probably win the game, he had that ball, just make the plays on a platter to be made

grief, 15.6 ppg, with Shanny and all the All Pros on O, that should be a fantastic recipe, one would think, and I think it is over time
just had a sloppy 2 weeks, mostly on O let's not forget that,
last week was the I think lowest yards output of the KS era on O
ton of turnovers last night on O

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Can someone explain to me what he's accomplished in his career as a coach that made him the ideal candidate to handle this defense? Looking at his resume, I don't see any sustained success.

It's becoming obvious that this was a bad hire. As others have said, schematically, he's calling a different defense than what we've come to expect.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Obviously other candidates we're not available or went somewhere else. This was a panic hire. And obviously they didn't do their due diligence in looking around the league for replacements nor did they like anyone internal that can be promoted.

I don't believe it was a panic hire. They certainly took their time in hiring him. I think that Wilks is a guy that is great at selling himself and probably comes off awesome in interviews.

I do know that if he flops with this level of talent on his defense that teams will be giving him the side eye for the rest of his career.

Ya know, there's probably something to this. After being fired by Arizona, I recall that the discussion about his tenure wasn't really around Wilks' successes and failures, but rather how respected and well-liked he was. The same was true in Carolina this past season. The players liked him. Of course, none of that matters if you don't get results.

let's look at ppg 15.6 this year
we allowed 16.3 last season
21.5 ppg in 2021