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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll give a quote, points if anyone can guess who is being discussed :

This is the guy who needs to be fired first, like ASAP. This defense is seriously the worst in the NFL.

Ryans?
The worst part is that the defense is mostly pretty healthy.
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
In one year under Wilks, the Cards went from ranked 6th to 20th defense. Wilks talked a lot about how lucky he was to have so many weapons on the defense and how he was going to unleash all that talent. Everyone in the organization commended his leadership and professionalism.

Opposing offenses then ran the ball down their throats, they couldn't get off the field on 3rd downs, coverage lapses led to easy pickings for big plays down the field and the blitzing was entirely predictable compared to Todd Bowles.

Sounds familiar to what he is doing to the Niner D. They are taking a step back from last year.

I'll hire Bowles if he gets canned in TB when they start losing out
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
we aren't replacing a top 3 DC in points
just need to execute better, we can get better at situational football also on the scheme

By Week 12

"We aren't replacing a top 15 DC in points!!!!"

💀

you see this phenomenon every year, last 2 Octobers, it was fire Kyle, after the slow starts
ppl also wanted McG cut all season, same McG who went on to be a top FA
it's about finding a scapegoat and piling on, the ppl have chosen Wilks, I think he's getting piled on more than deserved
plenty of blame to go around, offense, D and special teams

I don't see the defense turning it around unless the scheme changes.

Why is the defensive line getting less pressure then the last 3 years? Why are guys wide open on 3rd and 12? Too many issues i see on gameday not to be concerned. This defense sucks and any playoff team will have a field day against it.

It is literally the same players as last year. What changed?

I think the only thing saving this defense at the moment is the play of Warner & Greenlaw and the way its going they will be done in a few weeks from exhaustion.

It is the scheme and he is not a good motivator. They should have hired from within like they were doing.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll give a quote, points if anyone can guess who is being discussed :

This is the guy who needs to be fired first, like ASAP. This defense is seriously the worst in the NFL.

Ryans?

we have a winner
as you can see, we do this about every DC, and we have had good ones, that ppl want canned if not every game is a shutout
ppl wanted Ryans canned and they wanted Saleh canned, it's the same stuff every loss, overreact, and everyone is fired, let's get real, learn from the past, I like Wilks, let's give him a chance to grow into his role, learn from mistakes, we give the same to Brock, Moody, all these guys, they are making mistakes also, and will be out there on Sunday all the same
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The worst part is that the defense is mostly pretty healthy.

Exactly!! Wilks has zero excuses!!!
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll give a quote, points if anyone can guess who is being discussed :

This is the guy who needs to be fired first, like ASAP. This defense is seriously the worst in the NFL.

Ryans?

we have a winner
as you can see, we do this about every DC, and we have had good ones, that ppl want canned if not every game is a shutout
ppl wanted Ryans canned and they wanted Saleh canned, it's the same stuff every loss, overreact, and everyone is fired, let's get real, learn from the past, I like Wilks, let's give him a chance to grow into his role, learn from mistakes, we give the same to Brock, Moody, all these guys, they are making mistakes also, and will be out there on Sunday all the same
Give him a chance to grow give me a break this guy's been around for a long time his track record say this is who he is,comparing him to young inexperienced coordinators at the time and young players like Purdy & Moody is apples to oranges.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The worst part is that the defense is mostly pretty healthy.

Exactly!! Wilks has zero excuses!!!

What about mental deficiency?
Again, not even an X's and O's thing, but the energy that Saleh and Ryans brought can't be overstated. I think it's a large part of their success as HC's.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll give a quote, points if anyone can guess who is being discussed :

This is the guy who needs to be fired first, like ASAP. This defense is seriously the worst in the NFL.

Ryans?

we have a winner
as you can see, we do this about every DC, and we have had good ones, that ppl want canned if not every game is a shutout
ppl wanted Ryans canned and they wanted Saleh canned, it's the same stuff every loss, overreact, and everyone is fired, let's get real, learn from the past, I like Wilks, let's give him a chance to grow into his role, learn from mistakes, we give the same to Brock, Moody, all these guys, they are making mistakes also, and will be out there on Sunday all the same
Give him a chance to grow give me a break this guy's been around for a long time his track record say this is who he is,comparing him to young inexperienced coordinators at the time and young players like Purdy & Moody is apples to oranges.

I don't care who you are it takes time, I recall reading about Dungy, he went from I think Tampa to Indy, and he reworked their entire D, it took maybe 3/4s of a season to get players buying in and running their Tampa 2 style. I don't think Wilks is making dramatic scheme changes, but it's not all bad here. We lead the NFL in picks. Top 3 in points allowed. Perspective is > than panic, after a loss. I see lots of panic, would like more nuanced perspectives.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The worst part is that the defense is mostly pretty healthy.

Exactly!! Wilks has zero excuses!!!

He is bringing the D down! His scheme sucks! That was the dumbest defensive call to end the half yesterday gifting the Vikings a TD with no time left. I never saw Saleh or Ryans make such a boneheaded call.🤬
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll give a quote, points if anyone can guess who is being discussed :

This is the guy who needs to be fired first, like ASAP. This defense is seriously the worst in the NFL.

Ryans?

we have a winner
as you can see, we do this about every DC, and we have had good ones, that ppl want canned if not every game is a shutout
ppl wanted Ryans canned and they wanted Saleh canned, it's the same stuff every loss, overreact, and everyone is fired, let's get real, learn from the past, I like Wilks, let's give him a chance to grow into his role, learn from mistakes, we give the same to Brock, Moody, all these guys, they are making mistakes also, and will be out there on Sunday all the same
Give him a chance to grow give me a break this guy's been around for a long time his track record say this is who he is,comparing him to young inexperienced coordinators at the time and young players like Purdy & Moody is apples to oranges.

I don't care who you are it takes time, I recall reading about Dungy, he went from I think Tampa to Indy, and he reworked their entire D, it took maybe 3/4s of a season to get players buying in and running their Tampa 2 style. I don't think Wilks is making dramatic scheme changes, but it's not all bad here. We lead the NFL in picks. Top 3 in points allowed. Perspective is > than panic, after a loss. I see lots of panic, would like more nuanced perspectives.

Why are we reworking a scheme that was tops in the NFL and has a roster built around that scheme?
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Give him a chance to grow give me a break this guy's been around for a long time his track record say this is who he is,comparing him to young inexperienced coordinators at the time and young players like Purdy & Moody is apples to oranges.

He has been the DC of below average defenses.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll give a quote, points if anyone can guess who is being discussed :

This is the guy who needs to be fired first, like ASAP. This defense is seriously the worst in the NFL.

Ryans?

we have a winner
as you can see, we do this about every DC, and we have had good ones, that ppl want canned if not every game is a shutout
ppl wanted Ryans canned and they wanted Saleh canned, it's the same stuff every loss, overreact, and everyone is fired, let's get real, learn from the past, I like Wilks, let's give him a chance to grow into his role, learn from mistakes, we give the same to Brock, Moody, all these guys, they are making mistakes also, and will be out there on Sunday all the same
Give him a chance to grow give me a break this guy's been around for a long time his track record say this is who he is,comparing him to young inexperienced coordinators at the time and young players like Purdy & Moody is apples to oranges.

I don't care who you are it takes time, I recall reading about Dungy, he went from I think Tampa to Indy, and he reworked their entire D, it took maybe 3/4s of a season to get players buying in and running their Tampa 2 style. I don't think Wilks is making dramatic scheme changes, but it's not all bad here. We lead the NFL in picks. Top 3 in points allowed. Perspective is > than panic, after a loss. I see lots of panic, would like more nuanced perspectives.

Why are we reworking a scheme that was tops in the NFL and has a roster built around that scheme?

They should have just hired Fangio or someone from within.
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[ Edited by 49er-from-Yavin-IV on Oct 24, 2023 at 11:18 AM ]
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