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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup that's what you want, QB1 talent, but we hope he is not needed, cuz we have BP. If he gets into games tho, I wouldn't be concerned in the least, he would do well for us. That's the ideal situation. Sam would be among the best, if not the best, QB2 in the game.

In terms of talent? Sure

Play not so much.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup that's what you want, QB1 talent, but we hope he is not needed, cuz we have BP. If he gets into games tho, I wouldn't be concerned in the least, he would do well for us. That's the ideal situation. Sam would be among the best, if not the best, QB2 in the game.

In terms of talent? Sure

Play not so much.

If he was playing on this years Cardinals or Texans, I wouldn't be optimistic, but here, it's probably the best spot in the NFL to play QB, I think the very reason he is here, is cuz it's easy to play QB here, compared to other spots. That's what he has said. 'Guys are open.'
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If he was playing on this years Cardinals or Texans, I wouldn't be optimistic, but here, it's probably the best spot in the NFL to play QB, I think the very reason he is here, is cuz it's easy to play QB here, compared to other spots. That's what he has said. 'Guys are open.'

So stop forcing balls into coverage like Friday and throw em away like Brock.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So stop forcing balls into coverage like Friday and throw em away like Brock.

Darnold is who he is. That's how he has played since I've watched him play at USC. Walking turnover.

Needless and unnecessary ultra-risky turnover-worthy throws in situations like 1st and 10 or 2nd and 8

A good example of great arm talent and even solid athleticism, yet below average football IQ, defense reading and decision-making
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Darnold is who he is. That's how he has played since I've watched him play at USC. Walking turnover.

Needless and unnecessary ultra-risky turnover-worthy throws in situations like 1st and 10 or 2nd and 8

A good example of great arm talent and even solid athleticism, yet below average football IQ, defense reading and decision-making

100%
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So stop forcing balls into coverage like Friday and throw em away like Brock.

Darnold is who he is. That's how he has played since I've watched him play at USC. Walking turnover.

Needless and unnecessary ultra-risky turnover-worthy throws in situations like 1st and 10 or 2nd and 8

A good example of great arm talent and even solid athleticism, yet below average football IQ, defense reading and decision-making

Yup. He'll keep you in every game while also keeping the opposing team in it, too.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So stop forcing balls into coverage like Friday and throw em away like Brock.

Darnold is who he is. That's how he has played since I've watched him play at USC. Walking turnover.

Needless and unnecessary ultra-risky turnover-worthy throws in situations like 1st and 10 or 2nd and 8

A good example of great arm talent and even solid athleticism, yet below average football IQ, defense reading and decision-making

Yup. He'll keep you in every game while also keeping the opposing team in it, too.

Definitely don't want him playing at all unless we are already blowing out the team late in the 4th quarter.
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So stop forcing balls into coverage like Friday and throw em away like Brock.

Darnold is who he is. That's how he has played since I've watched him play at USC. Walking turnover.

Needless and unnecessary ultra-risky turnover-worthy throws in situations like 1st and 10 or 2nd and 8

A good example of great arm talent and even solid athleticism, yet below average football IQ, defense reading and decision-making

Yup. He'll keep you in every game while also keeping the opposing team in it, too.

Definitely don't want him playing at all unless we are already blowing out the team late in the 4th quarter.

Darnold had a lower interception rate than Purdy last year. The near "INT" throw on Friday, even if the defender caught it, would've been out-of-bounds. Take a look at the all-22 of that play. Even PFF says Darnold did spectacular for the preseason.
[ Edited by dayswwneskoqnazfma on Aug 28, 2023 at 6:24 PM ]
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Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So stop forcing balls into coverage like Friday and throw em away like Brock.

Darnold is who he is. That's how he has played since I've watched him play at USC. Walking turnover.

Needless and unnecessary ultra-risky turnover-worthy throws in situations like 1st and 10 or 2nd and 8

A good example of great arm talent and even solid athleticism, yet below average football IQ, defense reading and decision-making

Yup. He'll keep you in every game while also keeping the opposing team in it, too.

Definitely don't want him playing at all unless we are already blowing out the team late in the 4th quarter.

Darnold had a lower interception rate than Purdy last year. The near "INT" throw on Friday, even if the defender caught it, would've been out-of-bounds. Take a look at the all-22 of that play. Even PFF says Darnold did spectacular for the preseason.

agree. I think people are remembering his rough start to his career.
he is young enough to continue to get much better.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Yup. He'll keep you in every game while also keeping the opposing team in it, too.

He was 4-2 last year on a horrendous Carolina team that was tanking. Despite that, he still had a better ypa and lower INT % than Purdy. Putting Darnold on a 49ers team with these weapons could make him an elite QB if he performed like he did last year.
Originally posted by Crown:
agree. I think people are remembering his rough start to his career.
he is young enough to continue to get much better.

I think many are doubting him because of his Jets days. He's improved considerably since his rookie year.

NinersNation had this review on his preseason:

Darnold had 33 attempts this preseason. He completed 22 of those. But get this, of those 11 incompletions, PFF considered all of them drops. He only put the ball in harm's way once, and proved capable of making throws when there's pressure in his face.

Darnold was consistently the first or second-best quarterback on the team, whether in a game or in practice. He has a history of failing under different circumstances, Sam won the job this offseason.
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Darnold had a lower interception rate than Purdy last year. The near "INT" throw on Friday, even if the defender caught it, would've been out-of-bounds. Take a look at the all-22 of that play. Even PFF says Darnold did spectacular for the preseason.

Sam Darnold has been in the NFL for 5 seasons and has played in 56 games. Why are you using *only* his six game sample size from last year to compare him to Brock Purdy (a rookie) last year, and what does it prove ? Do you think Sam Darnold is who he was in six games last year.... or more closer to his actual career performances ?

For his career, Darnold averages almost exactly one pick per game played. This is not good.

In four out five years (excluding that 6 game sample size last year) Darnold has ranked in bottom 5 QBs in the league in terms of INT % each year
While not even cracking top 15 QBs for TD% once. And it's not like he had to air it out all the time, his attempts are low and he's never been a volume passer like Jameis Winston.
[ Edited by the_dynasty on Aug 28, 2023 at 7:01 PM ]
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Darnold had a lower interception rate than Purdy last year. The near "INT" throw on Friday, even if the defender caught it, would've been out-of-bounds. Take a look at the all-22 of that play. Even PFF says Darnold did spectacular for the preseason.

Sam Darnold has been in the NFL for 5 seasons and has played in 56 games. Why are you using *only* his six game sample size from last year to compare him to Brock Purdy (a rookie) last year, and what does it prove ? Do you think Sam Darnold is who he was in six games last year.... or more closer to his actual career performances ?

For his career, Darnold averages almost exactly one pick per game played. This is not good.

In four out five years (excluding that 6 game sample size last year) Darnold has ranked in bottom 5 QBs in the league in terms of INT % each year
While not even cracking top 15 QBs for TD% once. And it's not like he had to air it out all the time, his attempts are low and he's never been a volume passer like Jameis Winston.

I care more about how he does with SF than his prior career. I think NFL play for QBs, WRs, and a lot of other positions, is situation based. So Geno can look good in one situation, and like an idiot in another situation. Now if you are an OL or EDGE, you can dominate the guy across from you, I don't view QB like that, there are a lot of variables..
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Darnold had a lower interception rate than Purdy last year. The near "INT" throw on Friday, even if the defender caught it, would've been out-of-bounds. Take a look at the all-22 of that play. Even PFF says Darnold did spectacular for the preseason.

Sam Darnold has been in the NFL for 5 seasons and has played in 56 games. Why are you using *only* his six game sample size from last year to compare him to Brock Purdy (a rookie) last year, and what does it prove ? Do you think Sam Darnold is who he was in six games last year.... or more closer to his actual career performances ?

For his career, Darnold averages almost exactly one pick per game played. This is not good.

In four out five years (excluding that 6 game sample size last year) Darnold has ranked in bottom 5 QBs in the league in terms of INT % each year
While not even cracking top 15 QBs for TD% once. And it's not like he had to air it out all the time, his attempts are low and he's never been a volume passer like Jameis Winston.

Stats while a jet don't count.

I said what i said.
we had these same talks with Blaine Gabbert and Josh Rosen...both former high 1st round picks
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