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Originally posted by Chance:
Talented thrower of the football? What does that even mean? Are you talking arm strength? That's a weird way to say arm strength, because that is the only attribute Darnold has over Purdy.

Darnold can make all the throws with velocity. CMC said this himself which was why he personally recruited him to the 49ers.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by 9moon:
YES, and as much as I like Purdy and what he's done, I would not be surprise if Darnold is the one to lead us back to the Super Bowl.... I always thought that he was OK w/the Jets but there was just too much expectation as a savior... Then at Carolina, everyone just assumed that he should have instant success...

This maybe the place where he becomes that 1st rounder.

He has definitely looked very promising so far in the preseason with Kyle's offense.

If you want Sam to start, be loud and proud about it man . No need to beat around the bush. It may end up the correct opinion. I think BP should start, and he's gonna have a great year. I like Sam also, and think he would do well for himself and us, if he gets out there. BP played the QB spot about as well as I've seen it played, and I saw Joe and Steve in their day, Elvis Grbac also

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by 9moon:
YES, and as much as I like Purdy and what he's done, I would not be surprise if Darnold is the one to lead us back to the Super Bowl.... I always thought that he was OK w/the Jets but there was just too much expectation as a savior... Then at Carolina, everyone just assumed that he should have instant success...

This maybe the place where he becomes that 1st rounder.

He has definitely looked very promising so far in the preseason with Kyle's offense.

If you want Sam to start, be loud and proud about it man . No need to beat around the bush. It may end up the correct opinion. I think BP should start, and he's gonna have a great year. I like Sam also, and think he would do well for himself and us, if he gets out there. BP played the QB spot about as well as I've seen it played, and I saw Joe and Steve in their day, Elvis Grbac also

Lmfao dude tryna start Darnold vs Purdy!!! He's putting so much effort it's hilarious!!
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by Chance:
Talented thrower of the football? What does that even mean? Are you talking arm strength? That's a weird way to say arm strength, because that is the only attribute Darnold has over Purdy.

Darnold can make all the throws with velocity. CMC said this himself which was why he personally recruited him to the 49ers.

There's far more than ball velocity that goes into being a talented thrower of the football. Accuracy reigns supreme, as does touch, creativity (think arm angles or other tricks), and speed of release, all of which Purdy has shown superior "talent". But of course tossing the football around hardly makes a QB. Decision making, leadership, mental fortitude, agility, speed, health, intelligence, etc. all play into the position. But you're over here hyper-focused on velocity. You haven't been around long, I don't know maybe you have, but this argument to knock on Brock has played out and looked stupid coming from each and every poster who has trying to prop up their strong-armed guy by diminishing Brock's skill. Yawn.
[ Edited by Chance on Aug 30, 2023 at 7:04 PM ]
Originally posted by Chance:
There's far more than ball velocity that goes into being a talented thrower of the football. Accuracy reigns supreme, as does touch, creativity (think arm angles or other tricks), and speed of release, all of which Purdy has shown superior "talent". But of course tossing the football around hardly makes a QB. Decision making, leadership, mental fortitude, agility, speed, health, intelligence, etc. all play into the position. But you're over here hyper-focused on velocity. You haven't been around long, I don't know maybe you have, but this argument to knock on Brock has played out and looked stupid coming from each and every poster who has trying to prop up their strong-armed guy by diminishing Brock's skill. Yawn.

How many throws into tight windows did Purdy throw into last year? 90% of his completions were bubbles, hitches. screens and intermediate passes to wide open receivers. Maybe 5-10% were intermediate tight window throws. None were into deep tight windows (like Darnold's preseason throws to Snead and Conley).

The fact is CMC has said Darnold can make all the throws but he hasn't said that yet about Purdy. There have been concerns among the team about his arm strength and this is not an open secret.
[ Edited by dayswwneskoqnazfma on Aug 30, 2023 at 9:22 PM ]
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by Chance:
There's far more than ball velocity that goes into being a talented thrower of the football. Accuracy reigns supreme, as does touch, creativity (think arm angles or other tricks), and speed of release, all of which Purdy has shown superior "talent". But of course tossing the football around hardly makes a QB. Decision making, leadership, mental fortitude, agility, speed, health, intelligence, etc. all play into the position. But you're over here hyper-focused on velocity. You haven't been around long, I don't know maybe you have, but this argument to knock on Brock has played out and looked stupid coming from each and every poster who has trying to prop up their strong-armed guy by diminishing Brock's skill. Yawn.

How many throws into tight windows did Purdy throw into last year? 90% of his completions were bubbles, hitches. screens and intermediate passes to wide open receivers. Maybe 5-10% were intermediate tight window throws. None were deep tight windows.

The fact is CMC has said Darnold can make all the throws but he hasn't said that yet about Purdy. There have been concerns among the team about his arm strength and this is not an open secret.

Did you just bang your head on the keyboard when you made your username?
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Did you just bang your head on the keyboard when you made your username?

It's kind of ironic that you would be talking about usernames. Do you know what Frank Gore thinks of Sam Darnold?

"Heck, I was just talking to Frank Gore," Maiocco shared. "Frank Gore popped his head in at the 49ers' local pro day, and he was like, 'You will be shocked at what you see from Sam Darnold.'

"Frank Gore is a Sam Darnold guy because they spent one year together with the Jets, and he just felt like he just didn't have any chance to succeed. The weapons he had, didn't have much in the way of receivers. The coaching has just been a turnstile. He's a really talented guy."
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by Chance:
There's far more than ball velocity that goes into being a talented thrower of the football. Accuracy reigns supreme, as does touch, creativity (think arm angles or other tricks), and speed of release, all of which Purdy has shown superior "talent". But of course tossing the football around hardly makes a QB. Decision making, leadership, mental fortitude, agility, speed, health, intelligence, etc. all play into the position. But you're over here hyper-focused on velocity. You haven't been around long, I don't know maybe you have, but this argument to knock on Brock has played out and looked stupid coming from each and every poster who has trying to prop up their strong-armed guy by diminishing Brock's skill. Yawn.

How many throws into tight windows did Purdy throw into last year? 90% of his completions were bubbles, hitches. screens and intermediate passes to wide open receivers. Maybe 5-10% were intermediate tight window throws. None were into deep tight windows (like Darnold's preseason throws to Snead and Conley).

The fact is CMC has said Darnold can make all the throws but he hasn't said that yet about Purdy. There have been concerns among the team about his arm strength and this is not an open secret.
While CMC said one thing about darnold, he's said a lot more about Purdy

plus your strength comment, that was very early like before he was a starter and hasn't been said since.

I hope darnold can play well if gven a chance, but right now he can't carry Brocks jock in all categories
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by 9moon:
YES, and as much as I like Purdy and what he's done, I would not be surprise if Darnold is the one to lead us back to the Super Bowl.... I always thought that he was OK w/the Jets but there was just too much expectation as a savior... Then at Carolina, everyone just assumed that he should have instant success...

This maybe the place where he becomes that 1st rounder.

He has definitely looked very promising so far in the preseason with Kyle's offense.

If you want Sam to start, be loud and proud about it man . No need to beat around the bush. It may end up the correct opinion. I think BP should start, and he's gonna have a great year. I like Sam also, and think he would do well for himself and us, if he gets out there. BP played the QB spot about as well as I've seen it played, and I saw Joe and Steve in their day, Elvis Grbac also

NO - I'm sure I don't want him to start.. I want Purdy to continue his success.. I hope he can be that NEXT great QB here.. I want nothing more than the team to get our 6th ring this season...

.. and I have also posted more than once that I see Darnold just like Foles.. he can start, win, go on a roll, and even win us a Super Bowl.. but I also honestly believe at this moment that he is not a SEASON LONG STARTER type of QB..

.. for now, Purdy is the Arthur and Darnold is Lancelot of Camelot !!!
isn't this fairly young up and coming 26 yr old QB prospect suppose to be a variation of a jimmy g-ish type QB?

i turned the game off everytime he showed up on screen so i dont know anything about him.
[ Edited by picklejuice on Aug 30, 2023 at 9:51 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
While CMC said one thing about darnold, he's said a lot more about Purdy

plus your strength comment, that was very early like before he was a starter and hasn't been said since.

I hope darnold can play well if gven a chance, but right now he can't carry Brocks jock in all categories

Well, Darnold right now can make all the throws. CMC even admits as much. Purdy hasn't been tested outside the numbers. He doesn't throw deep balls into tight windows. He hasn't thrown back shoulder throws. He doesn't throw balls with velocity. Not many QBs in the NFL can make these throws, and we have not seen that yet from him (though I am hopeful).
[ Edited by dayswwneskoqnazfma on Aug 30, 2023 at 9:52 PM ]
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
While CMC said one thing about darnold, he's said a lot more about Purdy

plus your strength comment, that was very early like before he was a starter and hasn't been said since.

I hope darnold can play well if gven a chance, but right now he can't carry Brocks jock in all categories

Well, Darnold right now can make all the throws. CMC even admits as much. Purdy hasn't been tested outside the numbers. He doesn't throw deep balls into tight windows. He hasn't thrown back shoulder throws. He doesn't throw balls with velocity. Not many QBs in the NFL can make these throws, and we have not seen that yet from him (though I am hopeful).
i showed all those throws in real games and post season games against some of the best competition.

if Darnold can do what you say, he wouldn't be on his third team, sign for so little to be the 3rd QB, have a 1:1 TD/INT ratio

sorry, but you live in a world of fantasy
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i showed all those throws in real games and post season games against some of the best competition.

if Darnold can do what you say, he wouldn't be on his third team, sign for so little to be the 3rd QB, have a 1:1 TD/INT ratio

sorry, but you live in a world of fantasy

Go look at Darnold's passes from last year. The level of difficulty on many of his throws in this compilation was a 9 or a 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMl60PXZNKE

I dare you to compare that with Purdy's throws from last year. Darnold had a lower INT rate and a higher ypa than Purdy in 2022 on a much worse team.
[ Edited by dayswwneskoqnazfma on Aug 30, 2023 at 10:14 PM ]
Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
While CMC said one thing about darnold, he's said a lot more about Purdy

plus your strength comment, that was very early like before he was a starter and hasn't been said since.

I hope darnold can play well if gven a chance, but right now he can't carry Brocks jock in all categories

Well, Darnold right now can make all the throws. CMC even admits as much. Purdy hasn't been tested outside the numbers. He doesn't throw deep balls into tight windows. He hasn't thrown back shoulder throws. He doesn't throw balls with velocity. Not many QBs in the NFL can make these throws, and we have not seen that yet from him (though I am hopeful).

People can say what they want about Darnold, but he easily has the best arm talent on the roster and has had it since the day he signed. It also just amazes me the amount of hate this guy gets. Here is a guy that is a very talented thrower, still very young, surrounded by the best talent, and coaches he has ever had, but he can't improve with all that? It's so funny because we have taken so many players that have gotten better playing here, but all of a sudden it's not possible for this one particular player?

It would not surprise me in the least Purdy gets injured, and Sam does this year what Brock did last season, by coming in and unexpectedly winning games help lead this team deep into the playoffs. I'm not worried about the QB position in SF right now.
Originally posted by Ark49er:
People can say what they want about Darnold, but he easily has the best arm talent on the roster and has had it since the day he signed. It also just amazes me the amount of hate this guy gets. Here is a guy that is a very talented thrower, still very young, surrounded by the best talent, and coaches he has ever had, but he can't improve with all that? It's so funny because we have taken so many players that have gotten better playing here, but all of a sudden it's not possible for this one particular player?

It would not surprise me in the least Purdy gets injured, and Sam does this year what Brock did last season, by coming in and unexpectedly winning games help lead this team deep into the playoffs. I'm not worried about the QB position in SF right now.

You're exactly right. I have a feeling that Darnold will surprise many doubters here if he gets the chance to play in Shanahan's system.
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