QB Sam Darnold is a Viking

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i showed all those throws in real games and post season games against some of the best competition.

if Darnold can do what you say, he wouldn't be on his third team, sign for so little to be the 3rd QB, have a 1:1 TD/INT ratio

sorry, but you live in a world of fantasy

Go look at Darnold's passes from last year. The level of difficulty on many of his throws in this compilation was a 9 or a 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMl60PXZNKE

I dare you to compare that with Purdy's throws from last year. Darnold had a lower INT rate and a higher ypa than Purdy in 2022 on a much worse team.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I already matched you with throws and even up'd the wager

that video doesn't help your argument. and your INT Rate claim is for less games played, which means his INT % is higher and will have more INTs if played more games

Like i said I like Darnold, but a good Arm doesn't make a QB

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I already matched you with throws and even up'd the wager

that video doesn't help your argument. and your INT Rate claim is for less games played, which means his INT % is higher and will have more INTs if played more games

Like i said I like Darnold, but a good Arm doesn't make a QB

What are you talking about? They both played 6 full regular season games.

Darnold also played on a tanking Carolina team that unleashed him when they had a chance to make the playoffs against Tampa Bay (he had 37 throws and a 108+ RTG in that game). Tampa Bay had a top 10 defense.

I don't think you understand INT % since that is based off the number INTs per throws, not the number of games.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Brock played in 9 games, if you want to count full games then you have to remove an INT

Tampa ? you mean the team that a rookie blew out by halftime

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Brock played in 9 games, if you want to count full games then you have to remove an INT

Tampa ? you mean the team that a rookie blew out by halftime

You can't compare the two against Tampa because one QB had maybe the best personnel in the NFL and the other had one of the worst.

Brock played mop-up duty in one game. That was before Jimmy G was injured. He also played in two full playoff games but that can't be compared because Darnold only played regular season ones. We are comparing the 6 regular season games that they both played.

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Sam is the best backup in the league and can win us games. Dunno why everyone is crying

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:

There's far more than ball velocity that goes into being a talented thrower of the football. Accuracy reigns supreme, as does touch, creativity (think arm angles or other tricks), and speed of release, all of which Purdy has shown superior "talent". But of course tossing the football around hardly makes a QB. Decision making, leadership, mental fortitude, agility, speed, health, intelligence, etc. all play into the position. But you're over here hyper-focused on velocity. You haven't been around long, I don't know maybe you have, but this argument to knock on Brock has played out and looked stupid coming from each and every poster who has trying to prop up their strong-armed guy by diminishing Brock's skill. Yawn.

How many throws into tight windows did Purdy throw into last year? 90% of his completions were bubbles, hitches. screens and intermediate passes to wide open receivers. Maybe 5-10% were intermediate tight window throws. None were into deep tight windows (like Darnold's preseason throws to Snead and Conley).

The fact is CMC has said Darnold can make all the throws but he hasn't said that yet about Purdy. There have been concerns among the team about his arm strength and this is not an open secret.

Originally posted by joeknows:
Darnold had an amazing season last season. The question remains (and there really is no way of answering it yet) whether it was just an outlier, or whether he has truly turned a corner.

If the latter, we could have a really good prospect on our hands.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:
There's far more than ball velocity that goes into being a talented thrower of the football. Accuracy reigns supreme, as does touch, creativity (think arm angles or other tricks), and speed of release, all of which Purdy has shown superior "talent". But of course tossing the football around hardly makes a QB. Decision making, leadership, mental fortitude, agility, speed, health, intelligence, etc. all play into the position. But you're over here hyper-focused on velocity. You haven't been around long, I don't know maybe you have, but this argument to knock on Brock has played out and looked stupid coming from each and every poster who has trying to prop up their strong-armed guy by diminishing Brock's skill. Yawn.

How many throws into tight windows did Purdy throw into last year? 90% of his completions were bubbles, hitches. screens and intermediate passes to wide open receivers. Maybe 5-10% were intermediate tight window throws. None were into deep tight windows (like Darnold's preseason throws to Snead and Conley).

The fact is CMC has said Darnold can make all the throws but he hasn't said that yet about Purdy. There have been concerns among the team about his arm strength and this is not an open secret.

Source for these stats?

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:
There's far more than ball velocity that goes into being a talented thrower of the football. Accuracy reigns supreme, as does touch, creativity (think arm angles or other tricks), and speed of release, all of which Purdy has shown superior "talent". But of course tossing the football around hardly makes a QB. Decision making, leadership, mental fortitude, agility, speed, health, intelligence, etc. all play into the position. But you're over here hyper-focused on velocity. You haven't been around long, I don't know maybe you have, but this argument to knock on Brock has played out and looked stupid coming from each and every poster who has trying to prop up their strong-armed guy by diminishing Brock's skill. Yawn.

How many throws into tight windows did Purdy throw into last year? 90% of his completions were bubbles, hitches. screens and intermediate passes to wide open receivers. Maybe 5-10% were intermediate tight window throws. None were into deep tight windows (like Darnold's preseason throws to Snead and Conley).

The fact is CMC has said Darnold can make all the throws but he hasn't said that yet about Purdy. There have been concerns among the team about his arm strength and this is not an open secret.

Source for these stats?

Did you just ask him to bend over?