QB Sam Darnold is a Viking

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I didn't mean that QBs don't get better as their career progresses, I meant that them turning into a very good QB is rare.

And no I'm not writing off Darnold, I liked him a lot coming out of college. Hopefully we don't need him this season though

Because Purdy has a below average arm, this prevents him from hitting players deep and outside the numbers. We've already seen Darnold do that multiple times in preseason.

I've posted this video when you said 95% of Purdy's passes were dump offs and screens. This video shows a guy who makes every throw on the field. Deep, to the sideline, no problem. He doesn't have a cannon, but the issues with arm strength are overstated. His arm was adequate. My only question is whether it's still adequate post surgery.

For the record. NFL QBs average about 54-55 mph in their top end throws. Last year, before Purdy was drafted he had increased his mph to 55-56, so slightly above average. If the ligament heals, there's no question that his arm strength will improve just like other QBs did as they hit their prime.

I think Darnold was clocked at 56 on sports science, so I think you're making a far bigger deal on arm strength than what the tape shows. And so here again is the tape of Purdy...

Brock Purdy | 2022 Highlights

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Yet here we are lol

You're not a niner fan are you?

Don't be shocked when Kyle wants to start his hand picked QB

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by thl408:
Yeah, I can tell by your reply you didn't watch Darnold play last season. It's all good, no one did.

Talk about pot and kettle. Did you watch him play last year? Watch his 2022 highlights and tell me what percentage of those throws did Purdy or Jimmy make last year? Those were elite throws and his numbers were elite tier.

No, I did not watch him play. I'm also not the one claiming he played better than Brock and Jimmy while citing a few metrics to make that claim.

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:
Who is "the team"? Inquiring minds must know.

the 49ers

Who on the 49ers declared Purdy the starter. If it wasn't Kyle, then it must've been someone?

Oh, that's right, you're talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by Chance:
I've posted this video when you said 95% of Purdy's passes were dump offs and screens. This video shows a guy who makes every throw on the field. Deep, to the sideline, no problem. He doesn't have a cannon, but the issues with arm strength are overstated. His arm was adequate. My only question is whether it's still adequate post surgery.

For the record. NFL QBs average about 54-55 mph in their top end throws. Last year, before Purdy was drafted he had increased his mph to 55-56, so slightly above average. If the ligament heals, there's no question that his arm strength will improve just like other QBs did as they hit their prime.

I think Darnold was clocked at 56 on sports science, so I think you're making a far bigger deal on arm strength than what the tape shows. And so here again is the tape of Purdy...

Brock Purdy | 2022 Highlights

I want you to objectively compare Purdy's throws and Darnold's throws from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMl60PXZNKE&t=129s&ab_channel=CarolinaPanthers

Originally posted by thl408:
No, I did not watch him play. I'm also not the one claiming he played better than Brock and Jimmy while citing a few metrics to make that claim.

I just posted Darnold's highlights from last year. I want you to watch the video and compare his throws to Brock's and Jimmy's.

Originally posted by Chance:
Who on the 49ers declared Purdy the starter. If it wasn't Kyle, then it must've been someone?

Oh, that's right, you're talking out of your ass.

Steve Young said it. Please don't defile a 49ers legend like that.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/49ers/article/steve-young-discusses-49ers-brock-purdy-patrick-18352789.php

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by thl408:
No, I did not watch him play. I'm also not the one claiming he played better than Brock and Jimmy while citing a few metrics to make that claim.

I just posted Darnold's highlights from last year. I want you to watch the video and compare his throws to Brock's and Jimmy's.

I'd rather just assume you're right and wait for Darnold to take QB1 away from Brock.

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:
I've posted this video when you said 95% of Purdy's passes were dump offs and screens. This video shows a guy who makes every throw on the field. Deep, to the sideline, no problem. He doesn't have a cannon, but the issues with arm strength are overstated. His arm was adequate. My only question is whether it's still adequate post surgery.

For the record. NFL QBs average about 54-55 mph in their top end throws. Last year, before Purdy was drafted he had increased his mph to 55-56, so slightly above average. If the ligament heals, there's no question that his arm strength will improve just like other QBs did as they hit their prime.

I think Darnold was clocked at 56 on sports science, so I think you're making a far bigger deal on arm strength than what the tape shows. And so here again is the tape of Purdy...

Brock Purdy | 2022 Highlights

I want you to objectively compare Purdy's throws and Darnold's throws from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMl60PXZNKE&t=129s&ab_channel=CarolinaPanthers

You're moving the goalposts. I'm not disputing Darnold's arm talent. I'm arguing against the claims you are making against Brock:

A) You've said almost all his passes were dump offs and screens. Crickets from you after video evidence has been presented.

B) You've said Brock's arm is below average and can't make deep throws or throws to the sideline. Once video evidence, MPH evidence is provided, you shift the argument.

It seems that you can only justify Darnold starting if Purdy isn't as good as the "team" thinks (not Shanahan though, he apparently has no say on who his starting QB is in your mind). The only way that a guy who has played inconsistent ball could be overlooked is if there's some nebulous team conspiracy to prop up a weak-armed poor statted QB like Purdy. If only the "team" could see what you see.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:
I've posted this video when you said 95% of Purdy's passes were dump offs and screens. This video shows a guy who makes every throw on the field. Deep, to the sideline, no problem. He doesn't have a cannon, but the issues with arm strength are overstated. His arm was adequate. My only question is whether it's still adequate post surgery.

For the record. NFL QBs average about 54-55 mph in their top end throws. Last year, before Purdy was drafted he had increased his mph to 55-56, so slightly above average. If the ligament heals, there's no question that his arm strength will improve just like other QBs did as they hit their prime.

I think Darnold was clocked at 56 on sports science, so I think you're making a far bigger deal on arm strength than what the tape shows. And so here again is the tape of Purdy...

Brock Purdy | 2022 Highlights

I want you to objectively compare Purdy's throws and Darnold's throws from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMl60PXZNKE&t=129s&ab_channel=CarolinaPanthers

You're moving the goalposts. I'm not disputing Darnold's arm talent. I'm arguing against the claims you are making against Brock:

A) You've said almost all his passes were dump offs and screens. Crickets from you after video evidence has been presented.

B) You've said Brock's arm is below average and can't make deep throws or throws to the sideline. Once video evidence, MPH evidence is provided, you shift the argument.

It seems that you can only justify Darnold starting if Purdy isn't as good as the "team" thinks (not Shanahan though, he apparently has no say on who his starting QB is in your mind). The only way that a guy who has played inconsistent ball could be overlooked is if there's some nebulous team conspiracy to prop up a weak-armed poor statted QB like Purdy. If only the "team" could see what you see.

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:
Who on the 49ers declared Purdy the starter. If it wasn't Kyle, then it must've been someone?

Oh, that's right, you're talking out of your ass.

Steve Young said it. Please don't defile a 49ers legend like that.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/49ers/article/steve-young-discusses-49ers-brock-purdy-patrick-18352789.php

lol, you are reaching so hard. I hope you didn't pull anything.

A) Steve Young has no idea what the inner workings of Kyle Shanahan's decision-making.

B) He's speaking of the team, like the players and everyone in the org, being behind Brock because he's got some special s**t going on.

Maybe read more of the article and you'll understand why Brock is the starting QB on the 49ers. Did you even watch this team last year, or do you follow Darnold around from forum to forum? Can we find your posts in NYJ and Carolina Panther forums too? I think chances are likely.

Originally posted by Chance:
You're moving the goalposts. I'm not disputing Darnold's arm talent. I'm arguing against the claims you are making against Brock:

A) You've said almost all his passes were dump offs and screens. Crickets from you after video evidence has been presented.

B) You've said Brock's arm is below average and can't make deep throws or throws to the sideline. Once video evidence, MPH evidence is provided, you shift the argument.

It seems that you can only justify Darnold starting if Purdy isn't as good as the "team" thinks (not Shanahan though, he apparently has no say on who his starting QB is in your mind). The only way that a guy who has played inconsistent ball could be overlooked is if there's some nebulous team conspiracy to prop up a weak-armed poor statted QB like Purdy. If only the "team" could see what you see.

Did you not watch the video? When was the last time the 49ers had QB who could make the throws that Sam Darnold made last year?

Purdy often does 5 yard hitches and screens and the occasional intermediate passes to wide open receivers. His long completions are typically short passes that rely on receivers yac. This is Kyle's ingenuity to fit Purdy's and Jimmy's skillsets.

You saw the different plays that Shanahan called for both Purdy and Darnold during the preseason. The deep outside the numbers passes were never called for Purdy or Jimmy.

Originally posted by dayswwneskoqnazfma:

Originally posted by Chance:
Who on the 49ers declared Purdy the starter. If it wasn't Kyle, then it must've been someone?

Oh, that's right, you're talking out of your ass.

Steve Young said it. Please don't defile a 49ers legend like that.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/49ers/article/steve-young-discusses-49ers-brock-purdy-patrick-18352789.php

Care to share that quote? It's behind a paywall. Highly doubt he actually said Kyle didn't want him as the starter and the "team" forced him.

Originally posted by Chance:
lol, you are reaching so hard. I hope you didn't pull anything.

A) Steve Young has no idea what the inner workings of Kyle Shanahan's decision-making.

B) He's speaking of the team, like the players and everyone in the org, being behind Brock because he's got some special s**t going on.

Maybe read more of the article and you'll understand why Brock is the starting QB on the 49ers. Did you even watch this team last year, or do you follow Darnold around from forum to forum? Can we find your posts in NYJ and Carolina Panther forums too? I think chances are likely.

I'll say it again. Mike Tomlin is not worried about Purdy. It's Kyle's offense that he's worried about. Brock and Jimmy had the same stats last year. Kyle has created a system that can plug in any average QB.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Care to share that quote? It's behind a paywall. Highly doubt he actually said Kyle didn't want him as the starter and the "team" forced him.

"Brock Purdy is starting for this team because the team chose him," Young told the San Francisco Chronicle. "People say 'Kyle Shanahan chose him. Or John Lynch.' No, the team chose him. Because the team smells it. They want somebody that makes them feel the way he makes them feel."