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Aug 14, 2023 at 5:16 PM

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
This dude got me worried

hoping Womack can step in

I never understood why they moved Womack outside. I like him inside. Keeps Oliver on his toes and makes him earn it. Who's he really competing with?

I think or hope at least it was just to get him cross trained. Oliver was horrific in the game and I don't recall him doing well in joint practices either.

IMO Womack and Jamison have a real shot to win that job based on what we saw Sunday.

Would suck to lose 3 million guaranteed but if he's trash you'd cut him and take the better player every time who gives you a better chance to win.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Aug 14, 2023 at 5:22 PM ]

Aug 14, 2023 at 5:26 PM

#167

brodiebluebanaszak
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Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
That TD he gave up is a tough cover. The outside CB did him no favors as well. Not many slots in the NFL would have shut down that play IMO

808 I'm gonna need you to be more irrational and overreact like the rest of us… thanks.

Receivers were four for four against him Doe

Aug 14, 2023 at 5:37 PM

#168

YACBros85
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
That TD he gave up is a tough cover. The outside CB did him no favors as well. Not many slots in the NFL would have shut down that play IMO

808 I'm gonna need you to be more irrational and overreact like the rest of us… thanks.

Receivers were four for four against him Doe

4/4 34 yards, 23 yards YAC with a 2.8 ADoT.

Aug 14, 2023 at 5:40 PM

#169

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
That TD he gave up is a tough cover. The outside CB did him no favors as well. Not many slots in the NFL would have shut down that play IMO

808 I'm gonna need you to be more irrational and overreact like the rest of us… thanks.

Receivers were four for four against him Doe

4/4 34 yards, 23 yards YAC with a 2.8 ADoT.

Those were his numbers? Yeah that's not bad at all imo

Aug 14, 2023 at 5:42 PM

#170

YACBros85
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
That TD he gave up is a tough cover. The outside CB did him no favors as well. Not many slots in the NFL would have shut down that play IMO

808 I'm gonna need you to be more irrational and overreact like the rest of us… thanks.

Receivers were four for four against him Doe

4/4 34 yards, 23 yards YAC with a 2.8 ADoT.

Those were his numbers? Yeah that's not bad at all imo

He gave up a TD as well.

Aug 14, 2023 at 5:42 PM

#171

49ers808
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Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
That TD he gave up is a tough cover. The outside CB did him no favors as well. Not many slots in the NFL would have shut down that play IMO

808 I'm gonna need you to be more irrational and overreact like the rest of us… thanks.

Receivers were four for four against him Doe

4/4 34 yards, 23 yards YAC with a 2.8 ADoT.

I mean he didn't have his best game, sure. But you guys do realize that position typically gives up more catches than outside corners right? They don't have the sidelines to help defend. What is key for that position is tackling abilities in run support and getting their slot wr/te down for minimal gains

Aug 14, 2023 at 5:47 PM

#172

YACBros85
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Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
That TD he gave up is a tough cover. The outside CB did him no favors as well. Not many slots in the NFL would have shut down that play IMO

808 I'm gonna need you to be more irrational and overreact like the rest of us… thanks.

Receivers were four for four against him Doe

4/4 34 yards, 23 yards YAC with a 2.8 ADoT.

I mean he didn't have his best game, sure. But you guys do realize that position typically gives up more catches than outside corners right? They don't have the sidelines to help defend. What is key for that position is tackling abilities in run support and getting their slot wr/te down for minimal gains

I simply provided stats. I never stated whether I thought it was bad or not. I remember Jimmie Ward giving up a catch on like his first 20 targets playing the slot last season. This was a pre season game where the raiders were running the ball straight down our throats and every pass was a playaction.

Aug 15, 2023 at 9:43 AM

#173

LasVegasWally
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If this is what Wilks wanted us to sign - then God help the D this season.

Aug 15, 2023 at 10:32 AM

#174

lamontb
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dude will be fine. it's pre season fellas. starters aren't playing hard

Aug 15, 2023 at 2:09 PM

#175

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Wow — Steve Wilks talking openly about 49ers' nickelback options beyond Isaiah Oliver. Both Shanahan and now Wilks have said that the vet Oliver, hasn't locked up the nickel starting spot. Wilks said the 49ers are looking for more "consistency" from Oliver.

From Wilks: D'Shawn…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2023

Aug 15, 2023 at 2:10 PM

#176

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I always believe Womack is better fit at nickel than outside corner. I don't know why he is now only competing on the outside.

Aug 15, 2023 at 2:14 PM

#177

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by boast:
Wow — Steve Wilks talking openly about 49ers' nickelback options beyond Isaiah Oliver. Both Shanahan and now Wilks have said that the vet Oliver, hasn't locked up the nickel starting spot. Wilks said the 49ers are looking for more "consistency" from Oliver.

From Wilks: D'Shawn…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2023

Wow, Wilks indicating that Ambry and Womack have a shot to start outside with Demo and Jamison or Parker potentially taking the slot. Very interesting.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Aug 15, 2023 at 2:15 PM ]

Aug 15, 2023 at 2:18 PM

#178

49ers808
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by boast:

Wow — Steve Wilks talking openly about 49ers' nickelback options beyond Isaiah Oliver. Both Shanahan and now Wilks have said that the vet Oliver, hasn't locked up the nickel starting spot. Wilks said the 49ers are looking for more "consistency" from Oliver.

From Wilks: D'Shawn…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2023

Wow, Wilks indicating that Ambry and Womack have a shot to start outside with Demo and Jamison or Parker potentially taking the slot. Very interesting.

That's awesome that it's a competition.

Aug 15, 2023 at 2:20 PM

#179

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Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by boast:

Wow — Steve Wilks talking openly about 49ers' nickelback options beyond Isaiah Oliver. Both Shanahan and now Wilks have said that the vet Oliver, hasn't locked up the nickel starting spot. Wilks said the 49ers are looking for more "consistency" from Oliver.

From Wilks: D'Shawn…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2023

Wow, Wilks indicating that Ambry and Womack have a shot to start outside with Demo and Jamison or Parker potentially taking the slot. Very interesting.

That's awesome that it's a competition.

Still way too much positivity coming from you... it's not allowed in here.

Aug 15, 2023 at 2:27 PM

#180

49ers808
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Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by boast:

Wow — Steve Wilks talking openly about 49ers' nickelback options beyond Isaiah Oliver. Both Shanahan and now Wilks have said that the vet Oliver, hasn't locked up the nickel starting spot. Wilks said the 49ers are looking for more "consistency" from Oliver.

From Wilks: D'Shawn…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2023

Wow, Wilks indicating that Ambry and Womack have a shot to start outside with Demo and Jamison or Parker potentially taking the slot. Very interesting.

That's awesome that it's a competition.

Still way too much positivity coming from you... it's not allowed in here.

Go play with your shake weight to decompress