Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:No lies detected here lol
Broncos defense had 70 dropped on them. Pretty safe assumption that unit as a whole was half-assing it.
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Oct 7, 2023 at 10:09 AM
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Oct 7, 2023 at 12:46 PM
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Has RG had a reaction to the Trade? Is he happy? Indifferent? Upset?
Oct 7, 2023 at 1:07 PM
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Originally posted by socal9er42:
Has RG had a reaction to the Trade? Is he happy? Indifferent? Upset?
He's currently smokin a spliff, taking it all in.
Oct 7, 2023 at 1:31 PM
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Some times it is about sacks, no doubt....can you beat your man and impact the play.... but often it is about the defensive line effecting the offensive line. Passrush is a team goal.
Gregory can move his guy...quickly...that alone regardless of actual sacks has some value. Bottom line we are likely to have more defensive linemen deeper upfield with him. That means more chaos and traffic around the opposing QB.
I personally never would have picked up Gregory, I am not a fan of knuckle heads...but the dude does have a legit first step combined with a pass rushers personality. If the dude screws around here, he is gone at little to no cost....so it is not like there is a real downside.
As others have pointed out, maybe it helps push Drake Jackson too....
Oct 7, 2023 at 2:17 PM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Patton:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Only a matter of time
Might as well sign Dee Ford too then, or bring back McKinnion too…yes that's sarcasm, lol.
Doesn't matter if it's god almighty, if he can't play because he's ALWAYS hurt, then it does us zero good.
No thanks.
Guilty as charged, lol. I definitely hate Verretts record of staying healthy. I do give him credit for the solid run he had, but par to the course of his career, he continued to get hurt, at the worst time too. He did juice the organization for some nice change though, gotta give him that 👍
Oct 7, 2023 at 2:25 PM
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Originally posted by flynhayn15:Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Gregory for 1/10th the price easily. The sack total may be different (by one..), but if I'm not mistaken, Gregory has more or a similar amount of pressures.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Oct 7, 2023 at 2:26 PM ]
Oct 7, 2023 at 3:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Some times it is about sacks, no doubt....can you beat your man and impact the play.... but often it is about the defensive line effecting the offensive line. Passrush is a team goal.
Gregory can move his guy...quickly...that alone regardless of actual sacks has some value. Bottom line we are likely to have more defensive linemen deeper upfield with him. That means more chaos and traffic around the opposing QB.
I personally never would have picked up Gregory, I am not a fan of knuckle heads...but the dude does have a legit first step combined with a pass rushers personality. If the dude screws around here, he is gone at little to no cost....so it is not like there is a real downside.
As others have pointed out, maybe it helps push Drake Jackson too....
There is no doubt every team is adopting a Kyle-like 2.5s passing game simply because of our DL. And that's about to increase even more now with RG. In short, we're disrupting OC's before even stepping out on the field.
Oct 7, 2023 at 3:20 PM
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Originally posted by Patton:
Guilty as charged, lol. I definitely hate Verretts record of staying healthy. I do give him credit for the solid run he had, but par to the course of his career, he continued to get hurt, at the worst time too. He did juice the organization for some nice change though, gotta give him that 👍
I would really like to see Verret succeed again. I doubt ShanaLynch will take the chance. But the pulled Sheffield from the PS for Sunday's game. i also have hopes that he'll step up. He played against the Cardinals. He had three tackles and a TFL.
Oct 7, 2023 at 3:39 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Some times it is about sacks, no doubt....can you beat your man and impact the play.... but often it is about the defensive line effecting the offensive line. Passrush is a team goal.
Gregory can move his guy...quickly...that alone regardless of actual sacks has some value. Bottom line we are likely to have more defensive linemen deeper upfield with him. That means more chaos and traffic around the opposing QB.
I personally never would have picked up Gregory, I am not a fan of knuckle heads...but the dude does have a legit first step combined with a pass rushers personality. If the dude screws around here, he is gone at little to no cost....so it is not like there is a real downside.
As others have pointed out, maybe it helps push Drake Jackson too....
There is no doubt every team is adopting a Kyle-like 2.5s passing game simply because of our DL. And that's about to increase even more now with RG. In short, we're disrupting OC's before even stepping out on the field.
So opposing teams will just expose whoever plays opposite Ward. I'm glad we're only paying Gregory the vet min, still holding out hope they'll trade for a CB.
Oct 7, 2023 at 3:41 PM
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Some times it is about sacks, no doubt....can you beat your man and impact the play.... but often it is about the defensive line effecting the offensive line. Passrush is a team goal.
Gregory can move his guy...quickly...that alone regardless of actual sacks has some value. Bottom line we are likely to have more defensive linemen deeper upfield with him. That means more chaos and traffic around the opposing QB.
I personally never would have picked up Gregory, I am not a fan of knuckle heads...but the dude does have a legit first step combined with a pass rushers personality. If the dude screws around here, he is gone at little to no cost....so it is not like there is a real downside.
As others have pointed out, maybe it helps push Drake Jackson too....
There is no doubt every team is adopting a Kyle-like 2.5s passing game simply because of our DL. And that's about to increase even more now with RG. In short, we're disrupting OC's before even stepping out on the field.
So opposing teams will just expose whoever plays opposite Ward. I'm glad we're only paying Gregory the vet min, still holding out hope they'll trade for a CB.
And the SCB on crossers.
Oct 7, 2023 at 3:52 PM
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Some times it is about sacks, no doubt....can you beat your man and impact the play.... but often it is about the defensive line effecting the offensive line. Passrush is a team goal.
Gregory can move his guy...quickly...that alone regardless of actual sacks has some value. Bottom line we are likely to have more defensive linemen deeper upfield with him. That means more chaos and traffic around the opposing QB.
I personally never would have picked up Gregory, I am not a fan of knuckle heads...but the dude does have a legit first step combined with a pass rushers personality. If the dude screws around here, he is gone at little to no cost....so it is not like there is a real downside.
As others have pointed out, maybe it helps push Drake Jackson too....
There is no doubt every team is adopting a Kyle-like 2.5s passing game simply because of our DL. And that's about to increase even more now with RG. In short, we're disrupting OC's before even stepping out on the field.
So opposing teams will just expose whoever plays opposite Ward. I'm glad we're only paying Gregory the vet min, still holding out hope they'll trade for a CB.
Is Lenoir really that much worse than the CB (whoever that guy was) opposite of Richard Sherman under the prime of Seattle's legion of boom era? I am sure team's game plan were to attack whoever plays opposite of Sherman, and that still didn't really work.
Oct 7, 2023 at 3:57 PM
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Added bonus: this will hopefully improve our O line, having to practice against what should be hands down the best D line in the league.
Oct 7, 2023 at 3:59 PM
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Good move on Gregory.
A). VERY affordable.
B). I expect him to get a lot of one on ones so he may start off w/a bang.
C). That first very fast step will open up opportunities for LB blitzes.
A). VERY affordable.
B). I expect him to get a lot of one on ones so he may start off w/a bang.
C). That first very fast step will open up opportunities for LB blitzes.
Oct 7, 2023 at 4:01 PM
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Some times it is about sacks, no doubt....can you beat your man and impact the play.... but often it is about the defensive line effecting the offensive line. Passrush is a team goal.
Gregory can move his guy...quickly...that alone regardless of actual sacks has some value. Bottom line we are likely to have more defensive linemen deeper upfield with him. That means more chaos and traffic around the opposing QB.
I personally never would have picked up Gregory, I am not a fan of knuckle heads...but the dude does have a legit first step combined with a pass rushers personality. If the dude screws around here, he is gone at little to no cost....so it is not like there is a real downside.
As others have pointed out, maybe it helps push Drake Jackson too....
There is no doubt every team is adopting a Kyle-like 2.5s passing game simply because of our DL. And that's about to increase even more now with RG. In short, we're disrupting OC's before even stepping out on the field.
So opposing teams will just expose whoever plays opposite Ward. I'm glad we're only paying Gregory the vet min, still holding out hope they'll trade for a CB.
Is Lenoir really that much worse than the CB (whoever that guy was) opposite of Richard Sherman under the prime of Seattle's legion of boom era? I am sure team's game plan were to attack whoever plays opposite of Sherman, and that still didn't really work.
Browner was a good, really physical CB. Definitely a step up from Lenoir, but Lenoir is still young and could improve quite a bit.
Oct 7, 2023 at 5:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Would you rather have Gregory for $1M or Yannick Ngakoue for $10M? Ngakoue has 2 sacks in 4 games already.
Some times it is about sacks, no doubt....can you beat your man and impact the play.... but often it is about the defensive line effecting the offensive line. Passrush is a team goal.
Gregory can move his guy...quickly...that alone regardless of actual sacks has some value. Bottom line we are likely to have more defensive linemen deeper upfield with him. That means more chaos and traffic around the opposing QB.
I personally never would have picked up Gregory, I am not a fan of knuckle heads...but the dude does have a legit first step combined with a pass rushers personality. If the dude screws around here, he is gone at little to no cost....so it is not like there is a real downside.
As others have pointed out, maybe it helps push Drake Jackson too....
There is no doubt every team is adopting a Kyle-like 2.5s passing game simply because of our DL. And that's about to increase even more now with RG. In short, we're disrupting OC's before even stepping out on the field.
So opposing teams will just expose whoever plays opposite Ward. I'm glad we're only paying Gregory the vet min, still holding out hope they'll trade for a CB.
Is Lenoir really that much worse than the CB (whoever that guy was) opposite of Richard Sherman under the prime of Seattle's legion of boom era? I am sure team's game plan were to attack whoever plays opposite of Sherman, and that still didn't really work.
Browner was a good, really physical CB. Definitely a step up from Lenoir, but Lenoir is still young and could improve quite a bit.
Lenoir is a good young corner. Some just can't see it for some reason. We would be better off if Wilks just keeps him on the outside.
[ Edited by SFrush on Oct 7, 2023 at 11:00 PM ]