Randy Gregory, Edge, Tampa Bay Bucs

Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
This man wanted it tonight. Wouldn't be mad if he started.

I noticed his motor too.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
IMHO, he hasn't had the closers that Lynch and Kyle have talked about annually, hence why Lynch is still trying and will likely try again with their first pick in the draft.

Regular season top 5 defense means nothing if they can't close in the playoffs. They couldn't close in the Superbowl and playoffs when they needed too, usually up 10 points in the 4Q.

Maybe this is the year they close the deal though.

Well you're coming off as if this DL hasn't been great this yr. We haven't even played a playoff game, so making any assumption there is silly right now.

If you can get Gregory and Young for pennies the dollar, who wouldn't do that in our position? We don't need them to be Nick Bosa 2.0…other teams would.

All those pressures have helped SF lead the league in INTs. Unless you think we have an elite level secondary that is bailing out our DL?

this system/scheme is based around the DL. This isn't some 2-gapping defense, we're not blitzing at some crazy rate. Ton of 4 man pressures & they're told to beat their matchups (some getting doubled all damn day). Talent matters there, you can't hide behind scheme here on D. You sure as s**t can on the OL.

Just the opposite. My stance has always been to use less resources because we're top 5 every year no matter the personnel (with Bosa healthy). The needle can't be moved too much more here.

But Lynch is CLEARLY trying to still find that true ER2 and they put out a public message of wanting a DL that can close games. That's not me. That's them. This is their philosophy.

And if they choose to stick to it, Lynch is just going to have to eat it and go buy another one if he wants a closing DL. We got a glimpse of that with Ford. He clearly still wants that.

You hold a QB to the highest of standards based on what he's paid. But you don't do the same with a DL that's had more resources devoted to it in history.

One of your signature argument was if we had no Trent Williams our OL would be below average. Why wouldn't you use the same argument on the DL? For example last season, if we had no Bosa our DL would be below average. Per you standard that should be a problem.

Huh? This isn't about the unit. Also, AA, Hargrave + are really really good players. It wouldn't be below average.

The topic is about what's next. IF Lynch wants to continue with his philosophy of finding that ER2, what's next? Just give in and buy one or draft another one high?

Or continue with the annual trend of trades and acquisition of former first-rounder veterans who are really solid but struggle closing...this is what Lynch wants, right? This is why he's still trying to acquire that, right?

What do you think?

I was specifically referring to last season. We didn't have Hargrave, Young, nor Gregory. It would have been below average.

In terms of what's next, depending on the cost, we could acquire new talent or keep Young or Gregory.

Gotcha. In terms of run defense and overall yards, etc. this defense has always been top 5 with a long list of personnel and coaching changes.

That's exactly my point. If you go in both the Chase and Gregory threads, nobody feels these guys have lived up to the hype and have been pretty poor at closing. Quality players, but not closers like Ford was when healthy. And that's what Lynch continues to look for. This is what cost us in the past.

So you think we could afford to buy a more proven closer at ER2? Or you think both have met that expectation (up to this point, of course)?

I think Young may have performed below everyone's high expectation, but he is still a darn good player. IMO he is certainly good enough to be the ER opposite of Bosa.

Gotcha! I haven't seen this take yet so now I understand where you're coming from. And hey, I do think most think the extra time off and playing for big pay days, both Young and Gregory could take off and help close the deal this post season too.

I've been making the rounds in the threads that cost us in the past and asking if we've improved...QB and injuries we clearly did; then DL, OL and secondary.

I want to win this damn thing!

Sorry NY/Liberty. This ain't it.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
This man wanted it tonight. Wouldn't be mad if he started.

I noticed his motor too.

I would love to see him re-signed.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
This man wanted it tonight. Wouldn't be mad if he started.

I noticed his motor too.

I would love to see him re-signed.

He seems the better player than Young at this point.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
This man wanted it tonight. Wouldn't be mad if he started.

I noticed his motor too.

I would love to see him re-signed.

He seems the better player than Young at this point.

Yah I think he complements Bosa better than Young. And I'd like to see Beal get more snaps.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
This man wanted it tonight. Wouldn't be mad if he started.

I noticed his motor too.

I would love to see him re-signed.

Ditto.

Better than Chase.

Any word on Gregory?

When this guy getting cut?

I could see him back on the cheap or replaced by developing pass rusher

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
When this guy getting cut?

According to the free agent tracker on the Home page, he is an UFA.

If Niners don't get an edge guy until mid rounds, chances of that rook beating out Gregory is pretty slim

Might as well resign him if he can be had for good deal. Drake or Beal, nobody knows yet it's all hoping at this point

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
If Niners don't get an edge guy until mid rounds, chances of that rook beating out Gregory is pretty slim

Might as well resign him if he can be had for good deal. Drake or Beal, nobody knows yet it's all hoping at this point

Um, Floyd?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
If Niners don't get an edge guy until mid rounds, chances of that rook beating out Gregory is pretty slim

Might as well resign him if he can be had for good deal. Drake or Beal, nobody knows yet it's all hoping at this point

Um, Floyd?

Lol

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
If Niners don't get an edge guy until mid rounds, chances of that rook beating out Gregory is pretty slim

Might as well resign him if he can be had for good deal. Drake or Beal, nobody knows yet it's all hoping at this point

Um, Floyd?

I'm aware the team signed Floyd, but no rook in mid rounds (especially this draft) competes with Floyd, he's much better than any edge on the team not named Bosa, hence I mentioned Gregory. We need quality depth and Gregory is more than likely better than a rook the 49ers sign.

49ers recently had three very tough games (playoffs and SB), SB fatigue/hangover is a thing. 49ers always get a lot of injuries compared to other teams. Unless you think Beal/Drake are gonna step up, I don't see a lot of depth on Edge. Gross Matos might be good and I like the signing BUT the likes of Beal, Drake and these dudes https://www.49ers.com/news/49ers-sign-dl-earnest-brown-iv-and-dl-raymond-johnson-iii ain't saying much. RESIGN GREGORY!

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Lol

I can't believe I had to give my comment any explanation to a veteran in here but I guess

Common sense will tell ya to wipe from the front to the back, not back to front

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
If Niners don't get an edge guy until mid rounds, chances of that rook beating out Gregory is pretty slim

Might as well resign him if he can be had for good deal. Drake or Beal, nobody knows yet it's all hoping at this point

Um, Floyd?

I'm aware the team signed Floyd, but no rook in mid rounds (especially this draft) competes with Floyd, he's much better than any edge on the team not named Bosa, hence I mentioned Gregory. We need quality depth and Gregory is more than likely better than a rook the 49ers sign.

49ers recently had three very tough games (playoffs and SB), SB fatigue/hangover is a thing. 49ers always get a lot of injuries compared to other teams. Unless you think Beal/Drake are gonna step up, I don't see a lot of depth on Edge. Gross Matos might be good and I like the signing BUT the likes of Beal, Drake and these dudes https://www.49ers.com/news/49ers-sign-dl-earnest-brown-iv-and-dl-raymond-johnson-iii ain't saying much. RESIGN GREGORY!

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Lol

I can't believe I had to give my comment any explanation to a veteran in here but I guess

Common sense will tell ya to wipe from the front to the back, not back to front

I think Beal will do fine. We are talking about the 4th or 5th edge rusher at this point. Perfect spot for a hungry rookie. Plus we need a few options in 1 or 2 years that we are comfortable starting.