Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Would much rather have Clowney than this guy
Clowney honestly is perfect. He is the prototype for a #2 DE.
Clowney was tearing it up for the Ravens against the Texans.
There are 119 users in the forums
DE Chase Young signs with the Saints
Jan 22, 2024 at 10:58 PM
- DRCHOWDER
- Veteran
- Posts: 17,286
Clowney was tearing it up for the Ravens against the Texans.
Jan 23, 2024 at 3:16 AM
- Since07
- Veteran
- Posts: 3,196
He hasn't been amazing but I haven't seen him be bad either, the whole pass rush took a step back since Wilks took over. If he comes cheap I'd bring him back
He's still young too it took Armstead awhile to put it all together
He's still young too it took Armstead awhile to put it all together
[ Edited by Since07 on Jan 23, 2024 at 3:17 AM ]
Jan 23, 2024 at 3:29 AM
- NCommand
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 123,365
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Would much rather have Clowney than this guy
Clowney honestly is perfect. He is the prototype for a #2 DE.
Clowney was tearing it up for the Ravens against the Texans.
Yeah, he stood out for sure.
Jan 23, 2024 at 5:56 AM
- DrEll
- Veteran
- Posts: 8,571
Originally posted by Since07:
He hasn't been amazing but I haven't seen him be bad either, the whole pass rush took a step back since Wilks took over. If he comes cheap I'd bring him back
He's still young too it took Armstead awhile to put it all together
No he's bad. Watch that Jones 53 yard run against us. Pretty good example of how this guy stinks it up on all fronts. Gets beat up by a WR. Doesn't defend his gaps. Overpursues. Then the icing which I've seen a lot….loses interest in the play. How many time have we seen this guy just prancing around, going through the motions, not even trying to get to the ball carrier.
He's lazy…I'd much rather see someone like Ferrell who plays like he's trying to make the team..
Jan 23, 2024 at 7:30 AM
- Since07
- Veteran
- Posts: 3,196
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Since07:
He hasn't been amazing but I haven't seen him be bad either, the whole pass rush took a step back since Wilks took over. If he comes cheap I'd bring him back
He's still young too it took Armstead awhile to put it all together
No he's bad. Watch that Jones 53 yard run against us. Pretty good example of how this guy stinks it up on all fronts. Gets beat up by a WR. Doesn't defend his gaps. Overpursues. Then the icing which I've seen a lot….loses interest in the play. How many time have we seen this guy just prancing around, going through the motions, not even trying to get to the ball carrier.
He's lazy…I'd much rather see someone like Ferrell who plays like he's trying to make the team..
Checked it out, yeah giving a big play against a wr blocking looks bad but it was schemed that way by Lafleur who is a Shanahan disciple. Young pushed the wr on his ass but Jones with two leading blockers had already set the edge. Young needs to make that play but I wouldn't call it lazy so much as an excellent play call design by Lafleur
Jan 23, 2024 at 7:56 AM
- CatchMaster80
- Veteran
- Posts: 16,997
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
Jan 23, 2024 at 8:08 AM
- Since07
- Veteran
- Posts: 3,196
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
It's been backwards of what we have done with the dline the past few yrs. We played hybrid wide 9 which was all about letting them pin their ears back and make a play. It seems Wilks likes more of a traditional 4-3 play your gap, bend but don't break with some blitz packages every now and then.
Jan 23, 2024 at 8:28 AM
- ritz126
- Veteran
- Posts: 3,876
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
we have more qb sacks than last year and i think we are 3rd in QB/ hits or something like that i think its one of the reasons why we consistantly lead NFL in interceptions past few years which is the pressure generated
Jan 23, 2024 at 8:37 AM
- Alfienator
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,823
Originally posted by ritz126:Interesting…
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
we have more qb sacks than last year and i think we are 3rd in QB/ hits or something like that i think its one of the reasons why we consistantly lead NFL in interceptions past few years which is the pressure generated
WZ: it's not all about sacks. Pressures creating those ints. is good.
Also WZ: what's up with our dline not getting any sacks.
Jan 23, 2024 at 8:38 AM
- CatchMaster80
- Veteran
- Posts: 16,997
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
we have more qb sacks than last year and i think we are 3rd in QB/ hits or something like that i think its one of the reasons why we consistantly lead NFL in interceptions past few years which is the pressure generated
I know the team has more than last year but the ends aren't getting the type of production I would like to see. This front 7 has enough talent that they could be leading the league in sacks. It's not just about sacks or QB pressures. They haven't done a good job recently stopping the run
Jan 23, 2024 at 8:45 AM
- CatchMaster80
- Veteran
- Posts: 16,997
I know I sound like I think our defense isn't very good. I know they're still a good defense. I just think that with all the draft capital and money they've invested in this unit they should be #1. I just don't like the rather passive scheme. I like a defense that takes the offense and attacks. Put the offense on defense.
Jan 23, 2024 at 8:45 AM
- Disp
- Veteran
- Posts: 6,425
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by ritz126:Interesting…
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
we have more qb sacks than last year and i think we are 3rd in QB/ hits or something like that i think its one of the reasons why we consistantly lead NFL in interceptions past few years which is the pressure generated
WZ: it's not all about sacks. Pressures creating those ints. is good.
Also WZ: what's up with our dline not getting any sacks.
Last 5 games sack totals:
3, 2, 1, 2, 0
8 sacks in 5 games is atrocious especially for the amount of money invested on the d-line.
Jan 23, 2024 at 9:14 AM
- ritz126
- Veteran
- Posts: 3,876
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by ritz126:Interesting…
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
we have more qb sacks than last year and i think we are 3rd in QB/ hits or something like that i think its one of the reasons why we consistantly lead NFL in interceptions past few years which is the pressure generated
WZ: it's not all about sacks. Pressures creating those ints. is good.
Also WZ: what's up with our dline not getting any sacks.
Last 5 games sack totals:
3, 2, 1, 2, 0
8 sacks in 5 games is atrocious especially for the amount of money invested on the d-line.
but again we had similar production last year im sure we can find an 5 game strech where we had 8 sacks. And it isnt like we are league bottom or anything. Including last playoff game we average about 2.7 sacks/game last year was 2.5
honestly the biggst reeason for why it feels this way is ast year Bosa was a DPOTY and this year he wasnt close to that type of raw production
Jan 23, 2024 at 9:27 AM
- Disp
- Veteran
- Posts: 6,425
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by ritz126:Interesting…
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still wonder about the scheme Wilks plays. I really think it has something to do with the lack of QB sacks and consistent pressure. This front 7 is too talented to not be terrorizing offenses.
we have more qb sacks than last year and i think we are 3rd in QB/ hits or something like that i think its one of the reasons why we consistantly lead NFL in interceptions past few years which is the pressure generated
WZ: it's not all about sacks. Pressures creating those ints. is good.
Also WZ: what's up with our dline not getting any sacks.
Last 5 games sack totals:
3, 2, 1, 2, 0
8 sacks in 5 games is atrocious especially for the amount of money invested on the d-line.
but again we had similar production last year im sure we can find an 5 game strech where we had 8 sacks. And it isnt like we are league bottom or anything. Including last playoff game we average about 2.7 sacks/game last year was 2.5
honestly the biggst reeason for why it feels this way is ast year Bosa was a DPOTY and this year he wasnt close to that type of raw production
But last year we didn't have Javon Hargrave or Chase Young. With how much $ and draft capital we invested in them they were both supposed to be big upgrades at their respective positions. Our secondary is better than last years playoffs, linebackers are the same, but the overall defense feels much weaker.
Jan 23, 2024 at 9:28 AM
- ImAlwaysRight
- Veteran
- Posts: 116
This dude ain't it. Take his money and give to Jajuan Jennings