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Oct 31, 2023 at 1:54 PM
- MucketyMuck
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Perfect time for a bye week.
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:54 PM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Bosa, Hargrave, AA, Young - If Wilks cannot scheme to generate a pass rush with THIS front 4 he has no earthly business being our, or any team's DC.
The key will be to play closer coverage / more zone so that the opposing QBs have to take a little longer to survey the field.
Won't mean anything if Wilks continue to call plays like this defense is built around the secondary. The personnel of this secondary was built for more zone than man. Wilks need to understand this.
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:54 PM
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when do we hear about the physical?
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:55 PM
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Since the Commanders are having a fire sale, can we get Jack Del Rio also?
[ Edited by BryantTheBeast on Oct 31, 2023 at 1:55 PM ]
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:56 PM
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Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Ugh still have Wilks who'll waste him with stupid schemes
Exactly. I predict that Wilks will have him in coverage, mark my words.
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:56 PM
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Originally posted by susweel:
If bosa and hargrive were any good this wouldn't have been necessary.
Ouch!!! Hopefully this will ignite this group. Seems like Gregory is doing his part, we just need this group to stay healthy and start getting to the QB.
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:57 PM
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
when do we hear about the physical?
He's been playing, he should be fine.
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:57 PM
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Originally posted by BryantTheBeast:
Since the Commanders are having a fire sale, can we get Jack Del Rio also?
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:58 PM
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Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by maximusdecimus:Isn't the problem that the opposing QB is getting the ball out too quick effectively nullifying our pass rush?
Then our corners are getting burned. OUR CORNERS ARE GETTING BURNED.
how about we actually address the problem?
Yep, because of the soft zone coverage scheme. More press man and the DL can eat.
Wilks is calling a LOT of press man, and we are sucking a** at it. Lenoir has struggled in recently weeks, getting very lucky multiple times against MIN, falling down @ CLE, and getting roasted Sunday. Ward keeps getting penalized.
Oliver is the worst of the bunch. Knowing this, and knowing we're thin in the secondary and Wilks wants to run 4-2-5 regardless of situation most of the time, teams are spreading us out and running personnel packages that force Warner to essentially to play CB while Oliver is in match-up Hell against a receiver he has no hope of hanging with. Womack and Luter are supposed to be better at man coverage. I don't know if Womack's loss hurt us more than we thought now that we have no one else to rotate in.
Wilks scheme and pathetic playcalling are a huge problem in stopping the run, and Oliver being so bad is giving teams the option to attack us any way they want by simply spreading us out 3 or 4-wide and running if they get the look they want now.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Oct 31, 2023 at 1:59 PM ]
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:58 PM
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Originally posted by OC49erLuVeR:
Great trade. Coaches need a Come to Jesus Moment during the BYE. They have the personnel. Have a long sit down with Wilks to get him on the same page. Stop making Purdy throw into triple coverage down the middle with most of his INTs are happening. Purdy shows Elite flashes (reminds me of Steve Young) scrambling making across the field across the body throws to Kittle and CMC. He's good. Just young and going through growing pains. We can address these issues. GO Niners!!!
No one is making Purdy throw into triple coverage. The QB decides where to go with the ball. What needs to happen, IMHO, is Shanahan needs to sit him down and remind him to stop trying to be a hero. Take what the defense gives and manage the game.
And now that we've added Chase Young, that should reduce a little bit of the pressure on him to win the game. Hopefully.
Oct 31, 2023 at 1:59 PM
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Isn't the problem that the opposing QB is getting the ball out too quick effectively nullifying our pass rush?
Then our corners are getting burned. OUR CORNERS ARE GETTING BURNED.
how about we actually address the problem?
Yep, because of the soft zone coverage scheme. More press man and the DL can eat.
I'm sure Lynch called around about CBs but the best ones that were rumored to be available all stayed put. I guess the asking price was too high. Surtain was always a pipe dream anyway. As far as getting the ball out quickly that's true but everty team that has a good pass rush faces the same issue.
This year's D line is better on paper but the results aren't there. The secondary is pretty much the same except Jimmie Ward and he wasn't a lock down corner. Maybe it's the subtle changes that Wilks made or maybe these guys just believed their press clippings too much.
Oct 31, 2023 at 2:01 PM
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Originally posted by Patton:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
when do we hear about the physical?
He's been playing, he should be fine.
this is Chase Young we are talking about
Oct 31, 2023 at 2:02 PM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by OC49erLuVeR:
Great trade. Coaches need a Come to Jesus Moment during the BYE. They have the personnel. Have a long sit down with Wilks to get him on the same page. Stop making Purdy throw into triple coverage down the middle with most of his INTs are happening. Purdy shows Elite flashes (reminds me of Steve Young) scrambling making across the field across the body throws to Kittle and CMC. He's good. Just young and going through growing pains. We can address these issues. GO Niners!!!
No one is making Purdy throw into triple coverage. The QB decides where to go with the ball. What needs to happen, IMHO, is Shanahan needs to sit him down and remind him to stop trying to be a hero. Take what the defense gives and manage the game.
And now that we've added Chase Young, that should reduce a little bit of the pressure on him to win the game. Hopefully.
Great take. Purdy is pushing and he is used to it at Iowa st. But he needs to shake out of it and play within himself again. Mitchell sucking, not involving Mason more, putting everything on CMC. Once he gets stopped, Purdy plays hero ball and thats not his game.
Oct 31, 2023 at 2:03 PM
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Since the CB question was brought up here, anyone know if Womack or Luter Jr. will be available anytime soon?
Oct 31, 2023 at 2:04 PM
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
this is Chase Young we are talking about
True, lol. That's why he's a PERFECT fit for this team