Would you trade draft picks for Justin Fields?

I'd trade down to the lower 3rd, then trade for Justin Field..

I was hoping we take him over Baby Face Lance... this trade could be similar to the Steve Young trade.. let him sit around and learn..

PLUS, just in case B-Rock happens to be a " MOMENT " only, then it won't be too bad to have J-Field

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'd trade down to the lower 3rd, then trade for Justin Field..

I was hoping we take him over Baby Face Lance... this trade could be similar to the Steve Young trade.. let him sit around and learn..

PLUS, just in case B-Rock happens to be a " MOMENT " only, then it won't be too bad to have J-Field

A moment? He's been doing it for 2 years.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'd trade down to the lower 3rd, then trade for Justin Field..

I was hoping we take him over Baby Face Lance... this trade could be similar to the Steve Young trade.. let him sit around and learn..

PLUS, just in case B-Rock happens to be a " MOMENT " only, then it won't be too bad to have J-Field

A moment? He's been doing it for 2 years.

Fields has had enough time to show that he's an athlete trying to play QB. He turns the ball over too much and lacks the accuracy to play in Kyle's system.

The Bears ar ein a great position heading into the draft. They are likely to have the #1 overall pick so they can have their choice of a good QB class. Then they have the option of trading their own #1 and getting 2 number one picks in exchange. They can trade Fields for another #2 giving them two second rounders and a third plus 2 fourths. They also have a decent amount of cap space. The only thing standing in their way is poor front office and bad ownership.

Originally posted by jimmy3233:

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Was looking at the Pro Football Network 7 round mock draft that just came out and they propose the Niners trade one of their remaining third round picks this coming year plus a 3rd rounder in 2025 for Justin Fields. Their logic is that Brock's turnover luck is running out and that he's hit his ceiling as a QB. Would you make this trade or something similar? My answer is a resounding NO. Fields is a phenomenal athlete, but not a proven winner at the NFL level. What do you think?

*Edited upon request for Fropwns

You should be banned from this forum for even making this thread. He's a mediocre athlete this year also (phenomenal WTF how much weed do you smoke a day).

He's one of the worst QBs in the NFL since he has played something like 6-30 as a starter. f**king Bagent has twice as many wins as this dumb ass bust this year alone. Bears clearly playing him so they keep losing and get their next draft bust in Caleb Williams.

Banned for asking a question? Whatever.

I'm not saying trade for Fields.

But for all of those who say he sucks or he's a bust you might want to look at the last post in the other thread in which over the last 17 games (full season), he has a rating of 92, good completion percentage, better than 2-1 TD: INT ratio. Now he's averaged a fumble a game and because of that, he has 29 total turnovers and no that isn't good. It's also probably a consequence of both his own weaknesses that he must improve upon and trying to do too much with not enough around him.

Look at our old nemesis Russell Wilson. People have considered him a future Hall of Famer and last year he looked done. This year, he is hardly peak Wilson but he has the second highest completion percentage of his career and leads the league in TD percentage and lowest interception percentage.

If coaching and offensive system can lead to such a dramatic change in performance for a QB like Wilson, how much more will it effect a young QB like Fields?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think that the only thing that can save Fields is ending up with an OC that knows exactly how to call an offense to maximize his strengths while minimizing his weaknesses.



If I was Pittsburgh, I'd consider hiring Roman, trading for Fields and building an offense around a dominant running attack. It fits their whole team image and mystique anyways.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
I'm not saying trade for Fields.

But for all of those who say he sucks or he's a bust you might want to look at the last post in the other thread in which over the last 17 games (full season), he has a rating of 92, good completion percentage, better than 2-1 TD: INT ratio. Now he's averaged a fumble a game and because of that, he has 29 total turnovers and no that isn't good. It's also probably a consequence of both his own weaknesses that he must improve upon and trying to do too much with not enough around him.

Look at our old nemesis Russell Wilson. People have considered him a future Hall of Famer and last year he looked done. This year, he is hardly peak Wilson but he has the second highest completion percentage of his career and leads the league in TD percentage and lowest interception percentage.

If coaching and offensive system can lead to such a dramatic change in performance for a QB like Wilson, how much more will it effect a young QB like Fields?

Maybe Fields has gotten the short end of the stick but that isn't a reason to trade for him. I think Phoenix is right… the only reason I can think to trade for Fields is if you want to design something around who he is currently (which is an athletic but otherwise pretty bad conventional QB) not some vague notion of who he might be.

Originally posted by Midbay:
Maybe Fields has gotten the short end of the stick but that isn't a reason to trade for him. I think Phoenix is right… the only reason I can think to trade for Fields is if you want to design something around who he is currently (which is an athletic but otherwise pretty bad conventional QB) not some vague notion of who he might be.

Like I said I am not advocating for trading for him either.

But "bad conventional QBS" don't win MVP awards at the Elite 11 camp, get considered equal or better than Lawrence in some recruiting circles, or outplay and out pass him head to head.

None of that is to say that he isn't responsible for his failures or will become Steve Young elsewhere. But it is to say the wrong situation could probably ruin almost any quarterback.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Like I said I am not advocating for trading for him either.

But "bad conventional QBS" don't win MVP awards at the Elite 11 camp, get considered equal or better than Lawrence in some recruiting circles, or outplay and out pass him head to head.

None of that is to say that he isn't responsible for his failures or will become Steve Young elsewhere. But it is to say the wrong situation could probably ruin almost any quarterback.

I agree with your baseline point but I also would say that pre-professional evaluations and performance doesn't necessarily indicate success at the NFL level. Fields could get away with his bad habits and still dominate in his situation(s) prior to playing in the NFL.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think that the only thing that can save Fields is ending up with an OC that knows exactly how to call an offense to maximize his strengths while minimizing his weaknesses.



If I was Pittsburgh, I'd consider hiring Roman, trading for Fields and building an offense around a dominant running attack. It fits their whole team image and mystique anyways.

Facts. I honestly am curious about the Steve Young level athlete in this offense and the fact is Fields would need years in this system, along with work on his own to get to that point.

Someone mentioned the Steelers hiring Roman as OC and having Fields. It wouldn't be the worst idea. Fields can get a system designed around his strengths as you said, and if he is making a low salary (which he should), the Steelers can continue to draft well and bring in high quality free agents.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by Midbay:
Maybe Fields has gotten the short end of the stick but that isn't a reason to trade for him. I think Phoenix is right… the only reason I can think to trade for Fields is if you want to design something around who he is currently (which is an athletic but otherwise pretty bad conventional QB) not some vague notion of who he might be.

Like I said I am not advocating for trading for him either.

But "bad conventional QBS" don't win MVP awards at the Elite 11 camp, get considered equal or better than Lawrence in some recruiting circles, or outplay and out pass him head to head.

None of that is to say that he isn't responsible for his failures or will become Steve Young elsewhere. But it is to say the wrong situation could probably ruin almost any quarterback.

History is littered with the carcasses of failed 1st round QBs who did all manner of wondrous things in college. Maybe he can get a new birth certificate, return to college and win more MVP awards at camps but he is currently playing remarkably like a "bad conventional QB" in the actual NFL. You believe in the guy which is fine. I'm open to the strong possibility he just isn't cut out for the job.

Originally posted by Midbay:

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by Midbay:

Maybe Fields has gotten the short end of the stick but that isn't a reason to trade for him. I think Phoenix is right… the only reason I can think to trade for Fields is if you want to design something around who he is currently (which is an athletic but otherwise pretty bad conventional QB) not some vague notion of who he might be.

Like I said I am not advocating for trading for him either.

But "bad conventional QBS" don't win MVP awards at the Elite 11 camp, get considered equal or better than Lawrence in some recruiting circles, or outplay and out pass him head to head.

None of that is to say that he isn't responsible for his failures or will become Steve Young elsewhere. But it is to say the wrong situation could probably ruin almost any quarterback.

History is littered with the carcasses of failed 1st round QBs who did all manner of wondrous things in college. Maybe he can get a new birth certificate, return to college and win more MVP awards at camps but he is currently playing remarkably like a "bad conventional QB" in the actual NFL. You believe in the guy which is fine. I'm open to the strong possibility he just isn't cut out for the job.

Like most have said, great athlete, garbage QB.

I would not trade a box of Doo Dads for Justin Fields!

i'd trade an 8th or 9th rounder for him.