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Frank Gore Thread
Feb 6, 2013 at 2:35 PM
- BadgerHawk
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His job is to block inside out. First man through C to TE. Not TE- C.
Feb 6, 2013 at 2:36 PM
- Cjez
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he did, but s**t happens. Gore has been solid throughout his career.
Feb 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM
- GNielsen
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Gore had a great game. He rushed for more than 100 yards against the Baltimore Ravens for cryin out loud. A couple times, he faked Ray Lewis out of his shoes.
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM
- GolittaCamper
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You can only block one guy at a time, the out side guy, the one Gore let go was "farthest" from Kaep, therefore Gore made the right block, the over load look should have been caught, by Kaep, or Goodwin pre snapThat way an extra protector could be motioned over, or Moss would cut his route short and take a quick out. There was a breakdown of some kind there, but Frank got the right guy.
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:09 PM
- Cjez
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if u wanna get technical, CK should've read the obvious blitz and adjusted accordingly.
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:14 PM
- Sugar_Rush
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
The offense scored a grand total of 6 points against the Ravens with Alex Smith running it. The offense scored 29 points against the Ravens with Colin Kaepernick running it. What you're implying is that Alex Smith could have brought the Niners back from 22 points down against the same team. What makes you think the guy who got six points could have done better than the guy who got 29 points?
No telling what would've happened so it's 50/50.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Talk to Sugar Rush about that. If he wants to keep posting b***hy little innuendos about how everything would have turned out right if Alex Smith was in there, you should expect some of us to respond with reasonable arguments about why that's b.s. In absence of Sugar Rush's posts, I'd have nothing to say on the matter.
There was a point brought up about Kaep not being able to throw fades and it seamed proper to bring up his inexperience with reading defenses in goal line sitautions because I felt that was a more glaring problem than his ability to throw fades. Do we not have a QB on the roster that has experienced this and come through in those situations?
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:15 PM
- GolittaCamper
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Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
His job is to block inside out. First man through C to TE. Not TE- C.
This, if Frank had taken the out side man, that pass doesn't get off, the extra half step the out side rusher has to take was all the difference, something else when wrong on that play.
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:21 PM
- GolittaCamper
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Rolling that film back and forth a bunch, I see unoccupied blockers in the middle of the line, Goodwin sets the O-line , and if had shifted blocking assignments, so that Staley picked up the inside man, Frank could have taken the out side man, watch and see that Boone ends up with no one to block. He should have called , louie, larry, of last, or what ever the line call to shift left.
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM
- GolittaCamper
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
if u wanna get technical, CK should've read the obvious blitz and adjusted accordingly.
Maybe he did, and Moss didn't cut underneath...who knows? All I know is we lost a game that should not have been close! We played less than one half of good football, and still had a chance to win, if we had not sucked dirty balls in the first 35 minutes of play we win in a route, we failed to execute, we lost simple, if you aren't ready to play 60 minutes of the very best football in the world you will never win a super bowl! f**k the refes, f**k this block, f**k that call, WE DID NOT EXECUTE we weren't beaten, we lost. No way Baltimore stays with us when we execute, if we played best of 7 we win 5! But it aint baseball, we got one shot and we f**ked it up
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:41 PM
- ace49ers
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Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
This was an alarming trend in the RZ. Unblocked defenders. All the more reason we shouldn't have gone so spread in those situations.
Thats the thing that upset me as well. Why not go with what got us through the season. I would have expected Miller or Walker back there also to pick up a blitz and give the Ravens a thought that we might run.
Yeah I would have gone spread and motion. Even 3 wide with Crabs on the fade out and Walker in a underneath route.
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:42 PM
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Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Maybe he did, and Moss didn't cut underneath...who knows? All I know is we lost a game that should not have been close! We played less than one half of good football, and still had a chance to win, if we had not sucked dirty balls in the first 35 minutes of play we win in a route, we failed to execute, we lost simple, if you aren't ready to play 60 minutes of the very best football in the world you will never win a super bowl! f**k the refes, f**k this block, f**k that call, WE DID NOT EXECUTE we weren't beaten, we lost. No way Baltimore stays with us when we execute, if we played best of 7 we win 5! But it aint baseball, we got one shot and we f**ked it up
yup. Started going down hill with the LMJ fumble. He doesn't fumble, I think we score. 10-7, niners. Different ball game.
Feb 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM
- Snider8706
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I'm still wondering why gore didn't get the ball with 2nd and goal..
Feb 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM
- monsterzero789
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Kaep had no chance. An offsides Ed reed coming in unblocked. It was doomed
Feb 6, 2013 at 4:06 PM
- GNielsen
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Originally posted by Sugar_Rush:I don't like to be in the position of criticising Alex Smith, but I don't remember him having a lot of success throwing the fade route either. It's a low percentage play for all QB's. Everyone knows that. If Kaepernick's inexperience gave him a disadvantage against the blitz, we would have seen a general trend, but that's not what we saw in the playoffs. Kaepernick was 9 for 12 against the Falcons blitz and completed quite a few against the Ravens blitzes as well. And, it's not 50-50. We have two examples of Niner QB's playing the Ravens. One put up 6 points and the other put up 29. How does that work out to 50-50?
Originally posted by GNielsen:
The offense scored a grand total of 6 points against the Ravens with Alex Smith running it. The offense scored 29 points against the Ravens with Colin Kaepernick running it. What you're implying is that Alex Smith could have brought the Niners back from 22 points down against the same team. What makes you think the guy who got six points could have done better than the guy who got 29 points?
No telling what would've happened so it's 50/50.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Talk to Sugar Rush about that. If he wants to keep posting b***hy little innuendos about how everything would have turned out right if Alex Smith was in there, you should expect some of us to respond with reasonable arguments about why that's b.s. In absence of Sugar Rush's posts, I'd have nothing to say on the matter.
There was a point brought up about Kaep not being able to throw fades and it seamed proper to bring up his inexperience with reading defenses in goal line sitautions because I felt that was a more glaring problem than his ability to throw fades. Do we not have a QB on the roster that has experienced this and come through in those situations?
Most people who are not trying to make the argument that one QB should have been playing over the other agree that the problem on the last series was play calling. Even Harbaugh agrees that they didn't do a good job calling plays. It really shouldn't have come down to Kaepernick having to make three straight corner throws to Crabtree. They should have punched it in from the five with four plays to do it. You know that. In fact, they should have tried a Kaepernick RUN at least once because he's one of the most effective runners on the team. Hell, if Alex Smith was in there, they should have tried one of those run around the edge with him as well. The play calling was just horrible. It was a total brain fart.
Feb 6, 2013 at 8:44 PM
- blizzuntz
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This play was the the clue to the Niner coaches to see that the Ravens were going to call zero blitz when we were inside the 5. Why didn't this cause the coaches to change the formation on the last 3 plays since we knew how effective the zero blitz was at shutting down the pass in that situation?